# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 173
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3442 "2011-08-26T17:22:27Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > My previous post is at Normal. > > Which, WTF? You think Sangaman is scum. He thinks no one should vote me. So, you vote me? You realize that your rationale only works IF SANGAMAN IS SCUM. And, if he is, he may have realized that the wagon is too far gone and wants to cast suspicion on someone else when he goes. > > But, bird in the hand, man. If think I’m scum BECAUSE you think Sangaman is scum. Vote Sangaman. That would be perfectly fitting, since it’s been a sort of WTF kind of day. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3443 "2011-08-26T17:24:37Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > **unvote** > **vote: brewha** > > If both are scummy and one is saying not to lynch the other, maybe we should be lynching the other. I don’t know, I’m too fried to think. Sanga could be scum and just trying to argue what he thinks is the townie thing; he could be townie and really believe that. Either one could be a third party. I don’t know. All I know is pulling posts is not working for me today; it’s like pulling teeth. > > Does anyone know where Episkey’s cop claim is? I can’t find it. > Did NAF respond to the scum claim at all? I can’t find that either. I have to agree with \*\*brewha \*\*that this vote makes me go :dubious:. If both are scummy, why not vote for the one who has more votes and is more likely to be lynched? ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3444 "2011-08-26T17:25:03Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > He claimed having targeted Maha on day two. Crap. You’re right. Still, I’m not eliminating the possibility that scum targeted within the scum pool to find their powers. Yeah, it’d be risky - but the potential benefit would be huge. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3445 "2011-08-26T17:25:40Z")
posting as I catch up > [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > first of all,to those in the path of Irene, be safe. > > **Scuba** , i’m not sure Irene would survive **Pizza**. 😃 > > for those who said they know their roles, did you infer them or did the mod tell you? please elaborate. I was told explicitly. A Role PM with my name in it was delivered to me within a quote tag in a PM. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3446 "2011-08-26T17:26:55Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > septimus probably isn’t a bad choice to poison based on that post > > anyone under ~30 posts who has been here the whole time is posting too little Although I think Quality should play a part. Quantity is not key . ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3447 "2011-08-26T17:27:12Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > And ED has ALREADY SAID (and I even quoted the post to you) That **HE GOT NO RESULT TOO** , yet his action DID wind up going through. > > So even if you didn’t get any result, that doesn’t mean your action didn’t work. This has been said to you three times already. : p I was specifically told that my action had no “apparent” result. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3448 "2011-08-26T17:28:42Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Also, here’s a theory. You didn’t target Mahaloth N1. You targeted a redirector who had Mahaloth as a target. You realize this after poisoning me and claim that you targeted mahaloth to gain town cred. Plausible. Maybe not entirely likely. But I can see this beiong how a redirector might work. Anyone targeting that person is directed toward the redirector’s target. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3449 "2011-08-26T17:31:16Z")
> [@bufftabby](#): > > I didn’t get any other mod response N2, though I had a lack of apparent results N0 and N1. Please clarify. Did you receive PM’s on N0 and/or N1 mentioning the lack of apparent results, or just no PM’s at all? I’d ask a similar question of other players. I’m trying to understand the game mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3450 "2011-08-26T17:32:04Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Ninth [game](http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?126647-The-Shadow-Fort-Concluded), my partner died before I was even recruited, due to strange mechanics. I started off neutral. Defeated all other factions besides the cult and allied with the mafia/cult. Made it to the final two, lost on a coin toss but still awarded a win. No lynch here, even when I outed myself as scum. Don’t ask, you don’t wanna know. (Not lynched) This townie didn’t much want to know, either. Give Sasaki a smack for vigging me next time you see him, OK? Stupid “process of elimination” vigs. God it sucked being a regular townie in that game, I don’t think I’ve ever been so frustrated. > [@](#): > > Eleventh [game](http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?127416-The-Revenge-of-Inishmore%21-Concluded), the team I was recruited to won, and I helped them win. Problem was, game host reverted my alignment back to original when I died and didn’t inform me. As such, that’s a bastard host move and I should have won. I wasn’t lynched here either. (Not lynched) That game was such a mess. > [@](#): > > I was also mafia in two other games that hosts abandoned and I wasn’t lynched in those either. (Not lynched twice) A Bridge Zhou Far. Was going to be glorious dual-mafia victoly, too, unless one of our teams flinched. One of my exceeedingly rare mafia successes at the .org, and it wasn’t even official. _cry_ > [@](#): > > ] I was lynched exactly once in over 100 games, as mafia (not SK) without a detective result. Like the man said: **Lynch: ATPG** Only appropriate response. 🙂 And yet I still prefer having you around in a game than not. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3451 "2011-08-26T17:32:20Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > He claimed having targeted Maha on day two. he claimed a Day power? ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3452 "2011-08-26T17:36:07Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > he claimed a Day power? No, he claimed that he targeted Mahaloth N1 - on day two. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3453 "2011-08-26T17:36:07Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > ABWOP: PizzaGuy, this is the first time I’ve played with you, and I don’t get you. (This need not correlate with any alignment.) I’ll add you to my list of who to vote for at the starting gun. I’ll add you to my list of players who I consider too scared to face me without metagaming. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3454 "2011-08-26T17:37:53Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > That’s a good plan actually. Poison one of the people in the bottom 5 in terms of post count every Day. Either randomize the selection or leave it up to your own judgment but don’t say which player. By day, or overall? By day I can kinda understand since it basically forces the scums to post. Overall is crap. Maybe I’ll do that, it’s just that policy-based poisonings aren’t going to be very effective given the time I have remaining as an alive player. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3455 "2011-08-26T17:40:55Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > A Bridge Zhou Far. Was going to be glorious dual-mafia victoly, too, unless one of our teams flinched. One of my exceeedingly rare mafia successes at the .org, and it wasn’t even official. _cry_ Sorry, Bridge Zhou Far makes it 3 abandoned games as scum. Cultured Drizzt Fan (Swords and D20’s III) Iskander 3.1 (Downgradez) Subotan (Bridge Zhou Far) I think there’s a fourth one, too. > [@](#): > > Like the man said: > **Lynch: ATPG** > > Only appropriate response. 🙂 And yet I still prefer having you around in a game than not. Go figure. Given I’m townie roughly 80% of the time, that’s a horrible move. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3456 "2011-08-26T17:42:02Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Let me see if I understand this. > > If you were Town you’d be getting a lot of Lynch votes; in fact you’d probably be dead by now. It’s when you’re not being voted, as in this game, that you really are Scum, right? > > That makes this vote a no-brainer: > > **Lynch: Askthepizzaguy** That \*logic \*makes the no-brain comment quite apt. /joke ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3457 "2011-08-26T17:46:21Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Tex, I targeted Jan and she got gnarly night 1. I targeted Pizza and he got me n2. > Seriously, if someone targeted exactly Gnarly then me nights 1 and 2 I think it’s a good idea to say so. It’d confirm my earlier guess, and frankly I’m at a loss to what else it can possibly be. Pizza got two results - Episki and NAF So your targeting of pizza could have resulted in pizza getting the NAF result. Someone else targeting pizza could have resulted in him getting you as scum. Either result may or may not be true. I would assume that because Pizza appears to be a non scum killer anyone targeting pizza lats night had some idea of what their role did I assume Episki had a good idea of what their role did, given that he tageted Silver jan, and silver jan said Gnarly was a wolf. A scum episki would know if that were false (as they would know what alignment gnarly and silverjan were) so a scum episki could target Pizza night two knowing a known killer would get a false read on a town. Or a town episki see the result of night one and figures he has a role that will tell their target the alignment of a random player, knowing it would be useful to the killer to be able to differentiate between town and scum. or teh night one or night two results were interfered with, anyone claim to have targeted Episki N1 or 2? Thus I can conclude, EPIski is either town or scum :smack: I think Brewha should be left to die, the vote to tie a lynch against a later prooved scum is good enough for me. (Ok so I have low standards) Still wondering if we should go back and resolve the Gnarly vs SilverJan with a lunch there, that might help us figure out what Episkis power is as well. Still thinking Sanagmans apparent perfect knowledge is a lynchworthy event. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3458 "2011-08-26T17:47:18Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > By day, or overall? > > By day I can kinda understand since it basically forces the scums to post. Overall is crap. > > Maybe I’ll do that, it’s just that policy-based poisonings aren’t going to be very effective given the time I have remaining as an alive player. By Day is what I was thinking, though I had forgotten that it is harder to get Daily post counts on this board than on the other boards we play on. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3459 "2011-08-26T17:49:59Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Still wondering if we should go back and resolve the Gnarly vs SilverJan with a lunch there, that might help us figure out what Episkis power is as well. I like lunch. Be careful with this one. I voted SilverJan to try and resolve this and now I’m poisoned! ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3460 "2011-08-26T17:50:11Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > I have to agree with \*\*brewha \*\*that this vote makes me go :dubious:. > > If both are scummy, why not vote for the one who has more votes and is more likely to be lynched? Ok the serious response: brewha is scummier than sangaman by far IMO. Sangaman is plausibly scummy, but I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he flips town. Brewha, I would be. The post I originally voted on, this bizarre and desperate seeming attack on ATPG, the late vote for Inner, they all say scum to me. If it weren’t for his having been poisoned I would have voted him off the bat today. And, there are plenty of votes on sangaman. I’m not really convinced that brewha _should_ be lynched, under the circumstances, but at the moment my opinion seems hardly likely to matter, regardless. The response much more in the spirit of the post itself: because the scenario I mentioned in that post occurred to me and I was in a flippant sort of mood at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3461 "2011-08-26T17:51:33Z")
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