# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 174
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3462 "2011-08-26T17:53:02Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > posting as I catch up > > I was told explicitly. A Role PM with my name in it was delivered to me within a quote tag in a PM. Infered from results and teh wording of the results Also received a roile PM for the Apothecary, but with my name at the beginning. For reasons mentioned, I do not beleve that is my role, but beleive it is helpful for town to knwo one of has that role and the mechanism of the role. unless we have some of insane role teller, who tells the target another random role of the same alingement. Special ed - did you get your role last night or night one? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3463 "2011-08-26T17:53:47Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Given I’m townie roughly 80% of the time, that’s a horrible move. Keeping you around is a horrible move? Good to know. **After lynching ATPG, boil him in oil of newt and shoot him into the sun. Just to be sure.** (You did get that that was a joke, right? The orange color and all? I’m not that unfunny, right?) (I think Septimus was, too, btw. I think.) ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3464 "2011-08-26T17:54:31Z")
Lunch is always good, Pizza anyone? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3465 "2011-08-26T17:55:35Z")
I took a closer look at\*\* Normal Phase\*\*. These are from my notes so sorry for not having links for all of them. These are not all of her posts, either. I just pulled vote-related ones and/or what I thought were key posts. If I’m taking anything out of context, please let me know. Day 2: 1157: Normal votes Giraffe (she thinks?) > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > **vote: Giraffe** , I think. DanceCat reported as a villager makes him look comparatively worse. 1159: Normal says she has more reasons for her vote on Giraffe but she’s busy [I don’t recall her coming back with any more reasons, though. Did I miss it?] 1506: Normal says “There is no way I’m going to be able to catch up before Tuesday (see other game’s thread). Have some good bandwagons for me to choose from, is all I can say” 2186: Normal says “Anything else I’m missing? I’m skimming like nobody’s business even on the pages I’ve read.” 2209: Normal unvotes; votes brewha; says “The one that pinged me the most is brewha, but I’ll vote for any of them [Dancecat, BlaM, PCM, Inner Stickler]”; regarding brewha’s vote on Jan: This is a terrible vote. It completely dodges responsibility for whether or not SilverJan is actually scum, rationalizing her lynch purely on the basis of informational gain that is not all that certain anyway and could actively be detrimental to town if the Dethy theory is true _and_ Silver Jan is insane (that’s the reverse one, right)? [Why not vote for Drain Bead, then? I asked this earlier toDay but have not gotten a response.] 2272: Normal unvotes; votes \*\*BlaM \*\*[bringing him up to 4 votes; this is one of the few things she’s done that makes me think she might be town but with the wagon only at 4 votes, she could have felt safe in voting for a scum buddy.] This just doesn’t seem like the Normal Phase I am used to. She did make a few posts toDay that had lots of quotes and analysis and I thought “now that is who I’m used to playing with” but then she goes right back to what she’s been doing throughout this game which is very lazy voting. And her response to brewha saying “WTF?” about her vote is: > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > That would be perfectly fitting, since it’s been a sort of WTF kind of day. Again, a total lack of explanation and really sort of dismissive of the questioning altogether, I think. I see a lot of indecision, uncertainty and willingness to jump on any bandwagon. I know this is probably meta-gamey but this is making me think she is scum. I’m still suspicious of sangaman but I’d like to get this vote on record as well. **unvote sangaman** **vote Normal Phase** On preview I see that she has responded to my questioning of her vote. I’ll take a look at that now. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3466 "2011-08-26T18:16:35Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > **unvote** > **vote: brewha** > > If both are scummy and one is saying not to lynch the other, maybe we should be lynching the other. I don’t know, I’m too fried to think. Sanga could be scum and just trying to argue what he thinks is the townie thing; he could be townie and really believe that. Either one could be a third party. I don’t know. All I know is pulling posts is not working for me today; it’s like pulling teeth. > > Does anyone know where Episkey’s cop claim is? I can’t find it. > Did NAF respond to the scum claim at all? I can’t find that either. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Ok the serious response: brewha is scummier than sangaman by far IMO. Sangaman is plausibly scummy, but I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he flips town. Brewha, I would be. The post I originally voted on, this bizarre and desperate seeming attack on ATPG, the late vote for Inner, they all say scum to me. If it weren’t for his having been poisoned I would have voted him off the bat today. And, there are plenty of votes on sangaman. I’m not really convinced that brewha _should_ be lynched, under the circumstances, but at the moment my opinion seems hardly likely to matter, regardless. > > The response much more in the spirit of the post itself: because the scenario I mentioned in that post occurred to me and I was in a flippant sort of mood at the time. But again, you are dismissing your vote and saying your opinion hardly seems to matter. Why doesn’t it matter? What difference does the timing of your vote have on whether or not \*\*brewha \*\*is poisoned? He’s been poisoned all Day. And if you are not convinced \*\*brewha \*\*should be lynched, why are you voting for him? In the first vote post above, you made it sound like both were equally scummy. So are you now saying they are not? If so, what changed your mind? By the way, did the board just go down for anyone else? And did anyone else just post to the sign up thread instead of this one? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3467 "2011-08-26T18:19:38Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Infered from results and teh wording of the results > > Also received a roile PM for the Apothecary, but with my name at the beginning. For reasons mentioned, I do not beleve that is my role, but beleive it is helpful for town to knwo one of has that role and the mechanism of the role. > unless we have some of insane role teller, who tells the target another random role of the same alingement. > > Special ed - did you get your role last night or night one? What is the alignment of the apothecary? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3468 "2011-08-26T18:21:14Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > What is the alignment of the apothecary? Nevermind. I see you already told us it was town. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3469 "2011-08-26T18:22:34Z")
Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned. > [@lilflower](#): > > I took a closer look at\*\* Normal Phase\*\*. These are from my notes so sorry for not having links for all of them. These are not all of her posts, either. I just pulled vote-related ones and/or what I thought were key posts. If I’m taking anything out of context, please let me know. > > Day 2: > 1157: Normal votes Giraffe (she thinks?) > > 1159: Normal says she has more reasons for her vote on Giraffe but she’s busy [I don’t recall her coming back with any more reasons, though. Did I miss it?] No, IIRC by the time I got here on Tuesday it seemed to be wasted effort, with votes on Giraffe that had come and gone, a huge wagon on Scuba Ben, and the Day almost over. When I read the last few pages I saw brewha’s vote on Silver Jan and found that worse than anything I remembered from Giraffe, regardless. > [@](#): > > 1506: Normal says “There is no way I’m going to be able to catch up before Tuesday (see other game’s thread). Have some good bandwagons for me to choose from, is all I can say” > 2186: Normal says “Anything else I’m missing? I’m skimming like nobody’s business even on the pages I’ve read.” > 2209: Normal unvotes; votes brewha; says “The one that pinged me the most is brewha, but I’ll vote for any of them [Dancecat, BlaM, PCM, Inner Stickler]”; regarding brewha’s vote on Jan: This is a terrible vote. It completely dodges responsibility for whether or not SilverJan is actually scum, rationalizing her lynch purely on the basis of informational gain that is not all that certain anyway and could actively be detrimental to town if the Dethy theory is true _and_ Silver Jan is insane (that’s the reverse one, right)? [Why not vote for Drain Bead, then? I asked this earlier toDay but have not gotten a response.] Drain Bead voted Silver Jan? I don’t know what you’re referring to here. > [@](#): > > 2272: Normal unvotes; votes \*\*BlaM \*\*[bringing him up to 4 votes; this is one of the few things she’s done that makes me think she might be town but with the wagon only at 4 votes, she could have felt safe in voting for a scum buddy.] How generous. > [@](#): > > This just doesn’t seem like the Normal Phase I am used to. She did make a few posts toDay that had lots of quotes and analysis and I thought “now that is who I’m used to playing with” but then she goes right back to what she’s been doing throughout this game which is very lazy voting. And her response to brewha saying “WTF?” about her vote is: > Again, a total lack of explanation and really sort of dismissive of the questioning altogether, I think. Acting “weird” as with that brewha vote, isn’t scummy. It’s just weird. I have plenty of reasons for weird today, and none of them have anything to do with this game. > [@](#): > > I see a lot of indecision, uncertainty and willingness to jump on any bandwagon. I know this is probably meta-gamey but this is making me think she is scum. Are you serious? Do I really have to go through another whole game getting crap about vote changes? I know you have a tendency to vote on this kind of stuff, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3470 "2011-08-26T18:26:05Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > \ > I think Brewha should be left to die, the vote to tie a lynch against a later prooved scum is good enough for me. (Ok so I have low standards) > \ Can you clarify this? Whose vote for what tie? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3471 "2011-08-26T18:30:26Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > But again, you are dismissing your vote and saying your opinion hardly seems to matter. Why doesn’t it matter? Because sangaman is going to be lynched. I haven’t done a vote count, but I think he’s up by a large margin. > [@](#): > > What difference does the timing of your vote have on whether or not \*\*brewha \*\*is poisoned? He’s been poisoned all Day. And if you are not convinced \*\*brewha \*\*should be lynched, why are you voting for him? Because I find him to be scummy enough to die. I’m not convinced that Pizza’s concern about the apothecary saving him is enough to “waste” a lynch on someone who is likely to die anyway, and I think Idle is just plain off his rocker (but what else is new). But since it seems hugely unlikely to matter to the outcome either way, I may as well vote for him. > [@](#): > > In the first vote post above, you made it sound like both were equally scummy. So are you now saying they are not? If so, what changed your mind? You’re either selectively snipping or just plain didn’t read all my posts. I don’t know what I could have said to leave the impression I thought sangaman was equally scummy to brewha. I never said anything about him greater than “good enough”, and I’ve never voted for him. I have voted for brewha (before now). ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3472 "2011-08-26T18:32:56Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned. > No, IIRC by the time I got here on Tuesday it seemed to be wasted effort, with votes on Giraffe that had come and gone, a huge wagon on Scuba Ben, and the Day almost over. When I read the last few pages I saw brewha’s vote on Silver Jan and found that worse than anything I remembered from Giraffe, regardless. I don’t understand this. The posts you quoted were about your vote on Giraffe so what does that have to do with your vote on brewha at this point in the Day? > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned. > Drain Bead voted Silver Jan? I don’t know what you’re referring to here. Drain Bead voted for Silver Jan for the same reasons that brewha did and did it before brewha. I’m wondering why you didn’t call her out for the same reasons. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned. > How generous. No problem. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned. > Acting “weird” as with that brewha vote, isn’t scummy. It’s just weird. I have plenty of reasons for weird today, and none of them have anything to do with this game. I didn’t say you were acting weird. I said you were being dismissive. I see now that you have responded but I still have issues with your response. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned. > Are you serious? Do I really have to go through another whole game getting crap about vote changes? I know you have a tendency to vote on this kind of stuff, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying. This isn’t about vote changes. It’s about not taking accountability for the votes you are making and saying that they don’t matter. And “what kind of stuff” do I have a “tendency to vote on”? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3473 "2011-08-26T18:38:05Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Because sangaman is going to be lynched. I haven’t done a vote count, but I think he’s up by a large margin. If I recall correctly, there were about 847 votes placed in the last couple hours of Day 2. I don’t think we can say that anyone is a sure lynch with over 24 hours to go Today. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3474 "2011-08-26T18:38:40Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Are you serious? Do I really have to go through another whole game getting crap about vote changes? I know you have a tendency to vote on this kind of stuff, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying. Lightfoot is calling you scummy for vote changes? 😕 Whenever I play with you, you average, as Townie, 6+ vote changes per day, so I was going to call you scummy for lack of vote changes. (Also a joke, BTW) And as I bask in the glow of being _ **semi-confirmed** _ Townie 🆒 … I get Vig-targetting requests because of my joking. ☹ Yes, my posting level is low. My few posts do contain questions … usually that don’t get answered. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3475 "2011-08-26T18:41:20Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Lightfoot is calling you scummy for vote changes? Oops. ☹ :eek: s/Lightfoot/lilflower/ ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3476 "2011-08-26T18:45:05Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Because sangaman is going to be lynched. I haven’t done a vote count, but I think he’s up by a large margin. Day doesn’t end until toMorrow and yesterDay’s voting was going until the last minute. I don’t think sangaman is a lock at this point. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Because I find **[brewha]** to be scummy enough to die. I’m not convinced that Pizza’s concern about the apothecary saving him is enough to “waste” a lynch on someone who is likely to die anyway, and I think Idle is just plain off his rocker (but what else is new). But since it seems hugely unlikely to matter to the outcome either way, I may as well vote for him. I assume you are talking about \*\*brewha \*\*here. How do you reconcile thinking he is scummy enough to die but that you don’t want to lynch him? Once again, you say your opinion doesn’t matter (why is that?) and you think \*\*Idle \*\*is off his rocker but you are voting for the same player he is. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Ok the serious response: brewha is scummier than sangaman by far IMO. Sangaman is plausibly scummy, but I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he flips town. Brewha, I would be. The post I originally voted on, this bizarre and desperate seeming attack on ATPG, the late vote for Inner, they all say scum to me. If it weren’t for his having been poisoned I would have voted him off the bat today. And, there are plenty of votes on sangaman. I’m not really convinced that brewha _should_ be lynched, under the circumstances, but at the moment my opinion seems hardly likely to matter, regardless. > > The response much more in the spirit of the post itself: because the scenario I mentioned in that post occurred to me and I was in a flippant sort of mood at the time. When I read the underlined part, it seemed to me that you had an equally scummy read on both. Is that not true? > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > You’re either selectively snipping or just plain didn’t read all my posts. I don’t know what I could have said to leave the impression I thought sangaman was equally scummy to brewha. I never said anything about him greater than “good enough”, and I’ve never voted for him. I have voted for brewha (before now). > > If both are scummy and one is saying not to lynch the other, maybe we should be lynching the other. I don’t know, I’m too fried to think. Sanga could be scum and just trying to argue what he thinks is the townie thing; he could be townie and really believe that. Either one could be a third party. I don’t know. All I know is pulling posts is not working for me today; it’s like pulling teeth. > > Does anyone know where Episkey’s cop claim is? I can’t find it. > Did NAF respond to the scum claim at all? I can’t find that either. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3477 "2011-08-26T18:46:20Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Lightfoot is calling you scummy for vote changes? 😕 Whenever I play with you, you average, as Townie, 6+ vote changes per day, so I was going to call you scummy for lack of vote changes. > (Also a joke, BTW) > > And as I bask in the glow of being _ **semi-confirmed** _ Townie 🆒 … I get Vig-targetting requests because of my joking. ☹ > Yes, my posting level is low. My few posts do contain questions … usually that don’t get answered. > [@septimus](#): > > Oops. ☹ :eek: > s/Lightfoot/lilflower/ No, that’s not why I’m calling \*\*Normal \*\*scummy. And now she’s twisting my words which is only making me more suspicious. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3478 "2011-08-26T18:52:27Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > …you think **Idle is off his rocker but you are voting for the same player he is.** Eh? While I do find **Brewha** suspicious and would be happy voting for him, I am currently voting for **Sangaman** , not **Brewha**. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3479 "2011-08-26T18:53:42Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > I don’t understand this. The posts you quoted were about your vote on Giraffe so what does that have to do with your vote on brewha at this point in the Day? Are you looking at the context of the quotes you pulled, yourself? You’re asking me why I didn’t follow up on Giraffe yesterDay. I’m telling you that I missed (AFK) the vast majority of that Day. When I did get back, on Tuesday, I saw that people had both voted and unvoted Giraffe, leaving the bandwagon at just me and peeker. It looked like wasted effort to go digging up all my reasons from three days ago under those circumstances. I looked through recent posts instead and found brewha’s Silver Jan vote scummy, and voted for him. What is so hard to understand about this? > [@](#): > > Drain Bead voted for Silver Jan for the same reasons that brewha did and did it before brewha. I’m wondering why you didn’t call her out for the same reasons. Well for starters, I didn’t see it and still haven’t. If you have a link I’ll take a look. > [@](#): > > No problem. > > I didn’t say you were acting weird. I said you were being dismissive. I see now that you have responded but I still have issues with your response. > > This isn’t about vote changes. It’s about not taking accountability for the votes you are making and saying that they don’t matter. And “what kind of stuff” do I have a “tendency to vote on”? Stuff I vehemently disagree is scummy. I rarely agree with you on votes. But you are deliberately trying to take me wrong, you have to be. Why would anyone, town, scum or otherwise, ever say even in jest that their vote _doesn’t matter_? My vote is unlikely to matter to the outcome of today’s vote, not in general. Does not compute. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3480 "2011-08-26T18:55:53Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > I assume you are talking about \*\*brewha \*\*here. How do you reconcile thinking he is scummy enough to die but that you don’t want to lynch him? Once again, you say your opinion doesn’t matter (why is that?) and you think \*\*Idle \*\*is off his rocker but you are voting for the same player he is. OK, I’m taking a break. I need someone else to look at this and tell me if my OMGUS-dar needs adjusting, but this just looks deliberately obtuse. Back this evening, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3481 "2011-08-26T18:57:04Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Can you clarify this? Whose vote for what tie? Sorry that wasnt clear Please see post 2743 which shows the vote timing of yesterdays votes Blastermaster was on 8 votes (Idle being the 8th) then the Inner Stickler roll started, with Brewha posting the 8th vote to tie it, followed by BlasterMaster to put IS in the lead, Peeker and pwnsall pushed it the other way (so obviously I am leaning town on pwnsall, peeker was town, alas no longer with us) post 2743 , that was 600 post ago, on the same game day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=173) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=175)