# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 178
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3542 "2011-08-27T15:27:25Z")
**vote: sangaman** Not for the slip so much, but for the explanation, and even more because he has yet to cast a vote in the game. ---
**Author:** ![J.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@J.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J.D)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3543 "2011-08-27T15:43:39Z")
ahh ok then…i suggest not poisoning gnarly, that would be bad. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3544 "2011-08-27T15:46:50Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Wanting to lynch brewha at outset of Day despite the poisoning and without even the argument that’s since been presented about the Apothecary. I don’t get it. > > That’s just my point. It _is_ exactly what I’m saying, but it baffles me that you could possibly see it as some sort of scummy contradiction if you were paying any attention at all to the context. Tell me where you’re coming from, lilflower; I have a shitty record with OMGUS lately. > > I’ll try one more time: > brewha is poisoned. I’s likely (unless speculation about the apothecary turns out accurate) that he will be dead soon regardless if he’s lynched or not. Therefore, I didn’t want to lynch him, I’d rather discuss other things and let the poisoning take care of itself. That’s not a contradiction with finding him scummy enough to die. > > Given the apothecary speculation, I don’t know how I’d actually vote if if somehow came down to brewha or sangaman today, though I don’t expect it to. If you don’t think he’s going to be lynched and you are OK with him dying anyway, why waste a vote on him? What am I missing here? > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Oh, that. Well I’m not going to try to defend an “I think”. I don’t think it needs defending. But this was a vote with no reasoning and a disclaimer. Of course if you are town, we all know your vote is what you think. Why do you feel the need to qualify it? > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Obviously, but yes even if it wasn’t me. At that point I was the _only_ vote on brewha (I think I did vote for him that same post? Can’t remember) which made my vote more useful than the one on Giraffe only in the sense that the brewha post was more recent and stood a better chance of gathering more votes than a wagon on Giraffe that had already come and gone by the time I got there. I’m not a big fan of “well I think X is scummy so I’m going to stick to them like a limpet and ignore every other potential scum in the game even if the others have a chance of being lynched and my candidate does not”. As you might have gathered from my case on Zeriel. > > You’re way too focused on “what townies should act like” niceties here, lilfower. You can call it a “nicety” if you want, but personally I am looking for players who are making opportunistic votes and leaving themselves open to jump on the next bandwagon. I don’t like it and I think it makes them look scummy. And it’s not just anti-town, it’s scummy. Scum don’t care who get lynched and you seem to be acting like you don’t care who gets lynched. Ergo, I think you are acting scummy. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > That’s not remotely how I viewed what I was doing. > > The Giraffe vote I can give you, because I never got the chance to follow up before doing so seemed like a waste of my time, and now he is looking rather townie due to Blaster’s targeting him, so unless he’s still alive ten days from now or something it’s unlikely that I ever will. But brewha? How can you possibly see this how you are characterizing it? Of course you don’t view it that way. The point of me bringing it up is because that’s how I’m viewing it and trying to understand your motivations. As for your brewha vote, this is what I said: > [@lilflower](#): > > \ > And every vote does count, whether because it leads to someone’s lynch or leaves a record of who you thought was scummy. You seem to be dismissing the fact that any case you make or vote you make toDay has any bearing on the game. You seem to be like “oh well, here’s my vote, I’m sort of sure I want to place it but if something else comes along, I might vote there, too.” > \ And here is your vote: > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > **unvote** > **vote: brewha** > > If both are scummy and one is saying not to lynch the other, maybe we should be lynching the other. I don’t know, I’m too fried to think. Sanga could be scum and just trying to argue what he thinks is the townie thing; he could be townie and really believe that. Either one could be a third party. I don’t know. All I know is pulling posts is not working for me today; it’s like pulling teeth. > > Does anyone know where Episkey’s cop claim is? I can’t find it. > Did NAF respond to the scum claim at all? I can’t find that either. I think my interpretation is fair. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > This is true, I usually am. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible for me to recognize other people’s good cases, and that doesn’t mean I don’t vote for them when they have better chance of lynching someone acceptably scummy than my own case does. That part is NOT correct. I do it all the time. What is it that you do all the time? This was in response to me saying that you usually make a detailed case on a player. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > This is simply not the case. And I didn’t even do it, at that, when it came right down to it. (Well I did vote Blaster on a bandwagon later, but my first vote was my own.) > > Yeah, skimming’s not a scum tell. Somethign else we disagree on. I wasn’t accusing you of only skimming (and we’ll just have to disagree on whether it’s a scum tell or not). I also said this: > [@lilflower](#): > > So you seem to playing just enough not to be lurking, you are admittedly skimming and then placing votes with little to no accountability or confidence. It seems out of character for you as a town player. > > If anyone else cares to defend **Normal** , I am all ears. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Nobody needs to defend me; I’m quite capable of defending myself. This may have been worded poorly. What I was looking for were other opinions on my case. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3545 "2011-08-27T15:55:40Z")
**MODERATOR NOTE** Hey everyone, sorry I haven’t been around providing timely vote counts and stuff. Don’t know which genius’s idea it was to end this Day at 9 a.m. local time. I’m also dealing with making alternative travel arrangements, as my flight back to D.C. on Sunday was cancelled and it looks like I may be here until Tuesday. Anyway, since it looks like sangaman has a big, nigh-unsurmountable lead, I’ll do that reveal when the day ends in five minutes and then circle back with the actual final vote count sometime later today. Hope that works, and everyone who’s in the path of the hurricane: please stay safe. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3546 "2011-08-27T15:56:05Z")
If I’m not daft (but it happens) EOD is nigh A vote count might be usefull but I think it is moot I hope the bloody Night is short ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3547 "2011-08-27T15:57:14Z")
NETA timing my friends timing can be key ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3548 "2011-08-27T15:57:43Z")
At this point in the Day, I’m going to be very surprised if sangaman turns out to be scum. Scum have lost two players in two Days so it seems strange that they would let another teammate hang like this without even trying to get a competing bandwagon going. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3549 "2011-08-27T15:59:58Z")
@ lilflower I have seen it happen . but This Day has been a mosh sortof anyway ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3550 "2011-08-27T16:03:07Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > At this point in the Day, I’m going to be very surprised if sangaman turns out to be scum. Scum have lost two players in two Days so it seems strange that they would let another teammate hang like this without even trying to get a competing bandwagon going. No, if Scum, his teammates cannot do much to attempt to save him without making themselves noticeable. He is likely to die at some point anyway, and be revealed. If he does flip Scum, it might be worthwhile to look at the people who were dismissive early and see if anything there bears fruit. However, it Town, you’re right, Scum could be anywhere on the wagon or even in his early defenders. What might be interesting to see is how both he and Brewha flip if the poison in brewha takes hold. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3551 "2011-08-27T16:06:27Z")
Looks like that does it. **IT IS NIGHT.** ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3552 "2011-08-27T16:09:53Z")
**DAY THREE LYNCH RESULTS** Sangaman has been lynched. Sangaman, you are a **Doctor**. Each night beginning Night One, you select a target. Your target will be protected from night kills during that night. You are a **Wolf**. You win by achieving parity with the village and eliminating any other threats. PLEASE SUBMIT NIGHT ACTION TARGETS TO ME BY 8 p.m. EDT TOMORROW ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3553 "2011-08-27T16:12:01Z")
Well, color me surprised!! Good job, town! ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3554 "2011-08-27T16:14:33Z")
That explains the dream (bad pun and joke not game related) ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3555 "2011-08-27T16:51:46Z")
Three Scum down, six to go! Awww, too soon? I don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3556 "2011-08-27T16:55:58Z")
crap! i missed EOD. i thought i had 6 more hours. good work town! ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3557 "2011-08-27T16:57:19Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Three Scum down, six to go! > > Awww, too soon? I don’t care. i wish i could ‘like’ this. btw, you’d better be town. ---
**Author:** ![J.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@J.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J.D)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3558 "2011-08-27T17:02:09Z")
we can post? from OP: There will be no strategy talk in the thread at Night. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3559 "2011-08-27T17:11:35Z")
Wow. How does this even HAPPEN? 😕 I don’t even care. Well done. Shut me up. I guess that also means I just became more effective. 🆒 Hey, it’s not “strategy” to request a vote tally from one of the other players, right? I want to look at that tally more closely. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3560 "2011-08-27T17:19:02Z")
> [@J.D](#): > > we can post? > > from OP: > > There will be no strategy talk in the thread at Night. Nights are just Fluffy ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3561 "2011-08-27T17:20:55Z")
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