# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 184
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3662 "2011-08-29T15:18:47Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > brewha turning up wolf makes me a bit more suspicious of people voting him/trying to get his wagon to take off Can you elaborate? Is it simply because he was probably going to die anyways so they were looking for town cred or is there something more? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3663 "2011-08-29T15:19:03Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > I am 99.99% sure I’m the insane whisperer. The only reason I got the message I think is because I targeted a lock clear mason to receive my message and he died so it got reflected back onto me. > > If one every comes up town we snap vote them. I’m not sure how you’ve determined that your message ends up on you if your target dies. Normal rules to me would indicate that your message would go to nothing, or would go to **charlie** but he’d be dead (didn’t **Gadarene** say that kills are resolved last?) and not be able to be reported back into the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3664 "2011-08-29T15:20:11Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I’m not sure how you’ve determined that your message ends up on you if your target dies. Normal rules to me would indicate that your message would go to nothing, or would go to **charlie** but he’d be dead (didn’t **Gadarene** say that kills are resolved last?) and not be able to be reported back into the thread. Hmm, that was just my thought since my target died and I got a whisper. It made the most sense to me. Perhaps I need to rethink though ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3665 "2011-08-29T15:23:58Z")
> [@DuckburgDK](#): > > I wan tthis confirmed - cuz then Episkey should be handle a lot different than I thought. > \ Confirmed Duck. What does this mean though? ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3666 "2011-08-29T15:24:27Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Can you elaborate? > > Is it simply because he was probably going to die anyways so they were looking for town cred or is there something more? that combined with the fact it was a bad idea to wagon a poisoned person ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3667 "2011-08-29T15:35:45Z")
weedy when you said you got an investigation of texcat n1 did you also say that was your target n1 ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3668 "2011-08-29T15:51:19Z")
Pwns: I understand what you’re saying about the poison thing, but when I went to reread to see who got things going and pushed hardest, I stumbled upon this: > [@sangaman](#): > > \ > > I actually think we should probably not waste a lynch on Brewha since he’s poisoned anyway. If he gets healed (Gad, I’m assuming you’d tell us if someone’s poison goes away?) then he’s back on the table. > > In case it hasn’t already been explained, I guess we now know why Dance Cat’s alignment was revealed after n1. It looks like the wolves tried to not lynch Brewha to start. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3669 "2011-08-29T15:58:56Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Wolf messages: > > Night 1, Silver Jan was told gnarlycharlie is a Wolf. We now know this message to be false. > Night 2, PizzaGuy was told that both Episkey and NAF1138 are Wolves. We can presume PizzaGuy accurately reported the messages, but do not know definitively the validity of either message. > Night 3, Episkey was told that pwnsall is a Wolf. This conflicts with Giraffe’s received message on Night 2. Message validity is unknown. > > I conclude that this reinforces the probability of a paranoid or insane whisperer. I use “whisperer” here for the role, as everybody reporting a WOLF message has stated the message was not about their own target. Therefore, to whoever targeted all of gnarlycharlie on N1, NAF and/or Episkey on N2, and pwnsall on N3: I suggest you DO NOT CLAIM at this time, and consider claiming if someone reports receiving a message saying that your target that Night is Town. > > Paying attention to my day job today. Can’t actually pay attention to the game. You know, yesterday I was wanting the person to claim so we could work together and figure out who to peek. But now I realize your way makes way more sense. So let me emphasize: To the person who’s n1/2/3 targets were Gnarly/Me/Pwns, do NOT claim whatsoever. Simply keep targeting people we are unsure of. Not the wolfy players, not the townie player, but the players right smack dab in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3670 "2011-08-29T16:10:21Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Pwns: > > I understand what you’re saying about the poison thing, but when I went to reread to see who got things going and pushed hardest, I stumbled upon this: > > It looks like the wolves tried to not lynch Brewha to start. yeah i remember that but don’t think it’s relevant ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3671 "2011-08-29T16:12:43Z")
think i’d like idle thoughts and silver jan wagons best right now tho think it’s pretty unlikely to be w/w ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3672 "2011-08-29T16:21:06Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > think i’d like idle thoughts and silver jan wagons best right now > tho think it’s pretty unlikely to be w/w I wouldn’t mind a wagon on **Idle** but I am a Villager. I would like to know what happened to LightFoot last Night. If I am a roleblocker, as \*\*Idle \*\*says, then that should clinch it. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3673 "2011-08-29T16:28:29Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > I am 99.99% sure I’m the insane whisperer. The only reason I got the message I think is because I targeted a lock clear mason to receive my message and he died so it got reflected back onto me. > > If one every comes up town we snap vote them. When did you target **gnarlycharlie**? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3674 "2011-08-29T16:32:13Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > I am 99.99% sure I’m the insane whisperer. The only reason I got the message I think is because I targeted a lock clear mason to receive my message and he died so it got reflected back onto me. > > If one every comes up town we snap vote them. > [@lilflower](#): > > When did you target **gnarlycharlie**? NETA: I see now. You are saying you targeted \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*last Night. And you also got a message that \*\*pwsnall \*\*is wolf. These may or may not be related, though. You could have gotten that message from someone else or you were redirected. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3675 "2011-08-29T16:32:13Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > When did you target **gnarlycharlie**? Last night. My targets were: Dancecat (n0, no effect), Silver Jan (gnarly=wolf; proven false), Pizza (epsikey=wolf; false), and now Gnarly (I believe redirected to me upon his death, pwnsall=wolf; also believe is false) ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3676 "2011-08-29T16:33:20Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > NETA: I see now. You are saying you targeted \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*last Night. And you also got a message that \*\*pwsnall \*\*is wolf. These may or may not be related, though. You could have gotten that message from someone else or you were redirected. If I was redirected then the pwnsall = wolf should still be false. If it’s NOT from me, we probably have an issue since pwnsall is one of my most clear villagers. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3677 "2011-08-29T16:37:22Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I wouldn’t mind a wagon on **Idle** but I am a Villager. I would like to know what happened to LightFoot last Night. If I am a roleblocker, as \*\*Idle \*\*says, then that should clinch it. what was your action n1 i feel like you answered this but i have bad memory ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3678 "2011-08-29T16:37:56Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Last night. > > My targets were: Dancecat (n0, no effect), Silver Jan (gnarly=wolf; proven false), Pizza (epsikey=wolf; false), and now Gnarly (I believe redirected to me upon his death, pwnsall=wolf; also believe is false) Why do you think the message about you is the one that \*\*ATPG \*\*got? Why not the message about **NAF**? (And try to think if there is some other reason other than it’s just false; I don’t know if it’s false or not.) It seems like there are other roles out there giving out information about alignment (true or otherwise). Isn’t it a possibility that someone else sent \*\*ATPG \*\*a message about you? Why would you have a role that sent a message about yourself that is wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3679 "2011-08-29T16:38:13Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Last night. > > My targets were: Dancecat (n0, no effect), Silver Jan (gnarly=wolf; proven false), Pizza (epsikey=wolf; false), and now Gnarly (I believe redirected to me upon his death, pwnsall=wolf; also believe is false) Didn’t Pizza also say he receievd info that NAF was a wolf the same night he received info you were wolf ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3680 "2011-08-29T16:41:48Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Last night. > > My targets were: Dancecat (n0, no effect), Silver Jan (gnarly=wolf; proven false), Pizza (epsikey=wolf; false), and now Gnarly (I believe redirected to me upon his death, pwnsall=wolf; also believe is false) The only result that we do know for a fact though is **gnarly** , however I think you could be right that the other 2 are false as well. \*\*Pizza \*\*was told that both you and NAF were wolves. Does this mean that we should soft clear them for now? Maybe one of **Pizza** ’s results is correct. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3681 "2011-08-29T16:43:41Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > what was your action n1 > > i feel like you answered this but i have bad memory **Special Ed** , no apparent result, the same as I have had every Night. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=183) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=185)