# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3742 "2011-08-29T19:25:42Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
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> meh, n1 i got roleblocked
> 
> n2 i was “successful” on **bufftabby**
> 
> n3 i got no results which seems different from roleblocked on **crackedquads**
> 
> didn’t really want to out the roleblock result in case it would let wolves know who their rber is but whatever, it’s another reason i was suspecting 2p2ers may be wolves and i suspect crackedquads now even more

I targeted bufftabby on N2 and apparently the action went to NAF

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3743 "2011-08-29T19:31:52Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
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> What’s a “double role”?

I meant people with duplicate roles. Or to put it another way, 2 people with the same role.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3744 "2011-08-29T19:38:26Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I doubled scuba ben’s actions on Night 1

True. I meant that you didn’t hear anything about being roleblocked.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3745 "2011-08-29T19:43:32Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
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> Summary of message shenanigans (the parentheses denote what we know about the content of the message but doesn’t say anything about the recipient).
> 
> Night 1:  
> Scuba Ben gets a message that Jan is a villager (veracity unknown)  
> Weedy gets a message that Texcat is a villager and a mason (confirmed true)  
> Giraffe gets a message that Blaster is a villager (confirmed false)  
> Idle gets a message that Dancecat is a villager (confirmed true)  
> Idle gets a message that NAF is a villager and a mimic (unknown)  
> Jan gets a message that gnarlycharlie is a wolf (confirmed false)
> 
> We know Dancecat was able to send her alignment so that accounts for Idle’s message.  
> We know Blaster could send false alignment so that accounts for Giraffe’s message  
> Night 2:  
> PCM gets a message that he is a villager and the apothecary (unknown)  
> AskthePizzaGuy gets a message that NAF is a wolf (unknown; contradicted by Idle)  
> AskthePizzaGuy gets a message that Episkey is a wolf (unknown)  
> Donkx4 gets a message that Dancecat is a villager (confirmed true)  
> Ed gets a message that he is a villager and a power booster (unknown)  
> Idle gets a message that Drain Bead is a villager and a reflector (unknown)
> 
> On Night 1, we had two messages with both role and alignment. Idle is pretty sure his is correct (about himself) and know that the message about Texcat is correct. So the question here is why PCM got one that doesn’t seem right (i.e., how did he get a message about role and alignment that wasn’t correct). Also, on this Night there are three role/alignment messages and only two on Night 1. I’m not sure that means but it’s curious.  
> Also, based on other claims, it seems that Ed is the power booster so at least that part of his message seems correct. And if we believe Idle, that leaves Episkey and PCM as the odd men out.
> 
> Night 3:  
> Scuba Ben gets a message that Weedy is a villager (unknown)  
> Idle gets a message that he is a villager and a detective (unknown)

For completeness, don’t forget that I got a message on Night 2 saying that **pwnsall** is a Villager (unknown).

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3746 "2011-08-29T19:48:52Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
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> i never said i wasn’t roleblocked, depends what you mean by explicit i suppose

I’m not asking about the specific wording. What I wanted to know is if it was abundantly clear from your PM that you were blocked, or if you were merely inferring it from some other information yo received?

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3747 "2011-08-29T19:55:00Z")

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CORRECTED Summary of message shenanigans (the parentheses denote what we know about the content of the message but doesn’t say anything about the recipient).

Night 1:  
Scuba Ben gets a message that Jan is a villager (veracity unknown)  
Weedy gets a message that Texcat is a villager and a mason (confirmed true)  
Giraffe gets a message that Blaster is a villager (confirmed false)  
Idle gets a message that Dancecat is a villager (confirmed true)  
Idle gets a message that NAF is a villager and a mimic (unknown)  
Jan gets a message that gnarlycharlie is a wolf (confirmed false)

We know Dancecat was able to send her alignment so that accounts for Idle’s message.  
We know Blaster could send false alignment so that accounts for Giraffe’s message  
Night 2:  
PCM gets a message that he is a villager and the apothecary (unknown)  
AskthePizzaGuy gets a message that NAF is a wolf (unknown; contradicted by Idle)  
AskthePizzaGuy gets a message that Episkey is a wolf (unknown)  
Donkx4 gets a message that Dancecat is a villager (confirmed true)  
Ed gets a message that he is a villager and a power booster (unknown)  
Idle gets a message that Drain Bead is a villager and a reflector (unknown)  
Giraffe gets a message that pwnsall is a villager

On Night 1, we had two messages with both role and alignment. Idle is pretty sure his is correct (about himself) and know that the message about Texcat is correct. So the question here is why PCM got one that doesn’t seem right (i.e., how did he get a message about role and alignment that wasn’t correct). Also, on this Night there are three role/alignment messages and only two on Night 1. I’m not sure that means but it’s curious.  
Also, based on other claims, it seems that Ed is the power booster so at least that part of his message seems correct. And if we believe Idle, that leaves Episkey and PCM as the odd men out.

Night 3:  
Scuba Ben gets a message that Weedy is a villager (unknown)  
Idle gets a message that he is a villager and a detective (unknown)  
Episkey gets a message that pwnsall is a wolf (unknown; contradicts Giraffe’s message)

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3748 "2011-08-29T19:56:01Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> For completeness, don’t forget that I got a message on Night 2 saying that **pwnsall** is a Villager (unknown).

Thanks. I also forgot about Episkey’s message about pwnsall that he got toDay. I think the corrected list is correct now.

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**Author:** ![J.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@J.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J.D)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3749 "2011-08-29T19:58:40Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Hi there!
> 
> Yesterday, you told us “I have had two night actions, both with no result, however, my one last night was re-directed.”
> 
> How do you know that your Night 2 action was redirected?

It was told to me in my PM.

FWIW I got a “no apparent result” on my target last night.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3750 "2011-08-29T19:59:00Z")

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So far we have \*\*pwnsall \*\*claiming to have been blocked on Night 1, \*\*Idle \*\*claiming to have been blocked on Night 2, and **J.D.** claiming to have been redirected on Night 2.

As far as I can tell from what has been claimed, all three of these people were informed in their results PM that their action was blocked/redirected. Then we have **Special Ed** , who appears to have been redirected from **bufftabby** to \*\*NAF1138 \*\*on Night 2, but who apparently received no notice that his action was redirected.  
I’m going to ask now for the third time:

J.D., how do you know that you were Redirected on Night 2?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3751 "2011-08-29T20:06:30Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> So far we have \*\*pwnsall \*\*claiming to have been blocked on Night 1, \*\*Idle \*\*claiming to have been blocked on Night 2, and **J.D.** claiming to have been redirected on Night 2.
> 
> As far as I can tell from what has been claimed, all three of these people were informed in their results PM that their action was blocked/redirected. Then we have **Special Ed** , who appears to have been redirected from **bufftabby** to \*\*NAF1138 \*\*on Night 2, but who apparently received no notice that his action was redirected.  
> I’m going to ask now for the third time:
> 
> J.D., how do you know that you were Redirected on Night 2?

No. He wasn’t redirected. I copied his power and then used it on myself, but I didn’t know that’s what I had done yet.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3752 "2011-08-29T20:07:30Z")

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The above post is about Ed’s Night 2 action.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3753 "2011-08-29T20:18:26Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Then we have **Special Ed** , who appears to have been redirected from **bufftabby** to \*\*NAF1138 \*\*on Night 2, but who apparently received no notice that his action was redirected.?

Or special ed wasn’t redirected.

> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Just checking in now. Only have a second. Idle’s claim makes total sense of my role. I targeted Ed Night 1 and myself NIGHT 2. THAT explains why I got a double pick.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3754 "2011-08-29T20:20:09Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I got the message (in regards to my OWN NIGHT ACTION) that\*\* I’m a Detective\*\* and that each night beginning Night One, you investigate a target to learn their full role and that I’m a villager (but I knew that last part already, of course). And I win by achieving parity with the village and eliminating any other threats.

A villager wins _by achieving parity with the village_ ?

This looks like a careless edit of a Scum role PM.

**Vote: Idle Thoughts**

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3755 "2011-08-29T20:21:52Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> A villager wins _by achieving parity with the village_ ?
> 
> This looks like a careless edit of a Scum role PM.
> 
> **Vote: Idle Thoughts**

I was waiting for someone to catch this.

I noticed I accidentally left that in as soon as I posted it and been smacking myself ever since.

My only hope was that nobody caught it…although I knew that was an near impossible long shot.  
So good catch.

_sigh_

I’m a wolf. Lynch me.

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3756 "2011-08-29T20:26:27Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I was waiting for someone to catch this.
> 
> I noticed I accidentally left that in as soon as I posted it and been smacking myself ever since.
> 
> My only hope was that nobody caught it…although I knew that was an near impossible long shot.  
> So good catch.
> 
> _sigh_
> 
> I’m a wolf. Lynch me.

**Vote Idle Thoughts**  
Cop never actually targets themselves last night either.

What this means:  
He tried to save NAF and put me under pressure.  
We go Idle -\> NAF imo

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3757 "2011-08-29T20:28:45Z")

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Yes! Yes, lynch NAF next. 🙂 That’s a very good thing to do! 😃

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3758 "2011-08-29T20:30:51Z")

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Ahhhh…to not have to keep that charade up any longer… I feel so free.  
I fooled you all for so long. And I’d have gotten away with continuing to do so…if it wasn’t for you meddling septimus’!

(and my own stupidity)  
Now I can play Wifom with you all for the rest of the Day. Isn’t it great?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3759 "2011-08-29T20:31:41Z")

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Let’s see, let’s lynch NAF next, then Episkey, then lilflower, then JD…

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3760 "2011-08-29T20:32:38Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> The above post is about Ed’s Night 2 action.

And what was he end result of you tRgeting 2 people last Night?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3761 "2011-08-29T20:33:06Z")

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Special Ed knows what I’m talking about!

Don’t we, Special Ed… 😉

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