# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/361 "2011-08-17T23:14:26Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> And just to let you know this forcing game is seriously cutting into my angry birds time.

Tiny Tower man, I’m on floor 80

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/362 "2011-08-17T23:16:43Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> I’m undecided on **Peeker** but this post reads all wrong to me. If it’s a real scum tell, why aren’t you voting **Peeker** (you’re not, right?), moreso given his apparent change in posting style since he gained 3 votes? Why is it a pity that he was called out on it?
> 
> **Vote Scathach**

Sorry, I meant it’s a pity he was called out on it because now he’s aware of it - so he can work to disguise it. I’m not really convinced he’s scum because he didn’t really have enough rope to hang himself (if that makes sense?).

He is my best vote candidate so far - so if I don’t find anything else more scummy by tomorrow that’s where my vote will be. FOS peeker I guess 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/363 "2011-08-17T23:22:17Z")

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**VOTE COUNT**

Through post #362

peekercpa (3): Giraffe [301], special ed [313], NAF1138 [337]  
MykBot (2): Zeriel [21], TimeLady [24]  
TimeLady (2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
Dancecat (1): Idle Thoughts [72], [del]Giraffe [250][/del]  
Giraffe (1): peekercpa [286], [del]special ed [51][/del]  
NAF1138 (1): Dancecat [53]  
Idle Thoughts (1): Krayz [86]\*  
Scathach (1): GuiriEnEspaña [359]  
\*make it bold and blue next time tho

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/364 "2011-08-17T23:22:55Z")

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plus like was already mentioned. i was really jonesing for a game and ended up as a sub in **kid** ’s game. but crud one scum had already been lynched and the gf was already on the hot seat D2. so once he flipped and our dick nailed the last scum on N2 to gurantee victory on D3 what the hell challenge was that?

this one looked like fun. but with two more getting to kick off i have mixed feelings. obviously lynching me is bad for town. but if it puts an end to the kindler and gentler shit scum tell nonsense it personally will help me in those other two games. so i’ll keep plugging and trying to point out inconsistencies (which already got me a vote by **giraffe** ) and not being such a prick and dominating the entire conversation (which got me votes by **ed**  **naf** ) it’s about the best i can do at this point. plus it may ultimately help town in this game.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/365 "2011-08-17T23:29:16Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> plus like was already mentioned. i was really jonesing for a game and ended up as a sub in **kid** ’s game. but crud one scum had already been lynched and the gf was already on the hot seat D2. so once he flipped and our dick nailed the last scum on N2 to gurantee victory on D3 what the hell challenge was that?
> 
> this one looked like fun. but with two more getting to kick off i have mixed feelings. obviously lynching me is bad for town. but if it puts an end to the kindler and gentler shit scum tell nonsense it personally will help me in those other two games. so i’ll keep plugging and trying to point out inconsistencies (which already got me a vote by **giraffe** ) and not being such a prick and dominating the entire conversation (which got me votes by **ed**  **naf** ) it’s about the best i can do at this point. plus it may ultimately help town in this game.

Peek, I promise that the first time I am wrong about your tell it will be the last time I ever use it as the basis for any kind of vote against you. The problem is, I have used it as a basis for a vote against you at least 4 times now and I have yet to be wrong.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/366 "2011-08-17T23:33:24Z")

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i still think **giraffe** needs to get that neck stretched just a tad bit longer. seriously you vote for someone because of another person’s comment and then back down when the votee calls you on it.

the first is what is called an opportunistic vote.

the second is merely bluck bluck.

then when someone calls you on your bullshit you back away from vote (not when you post the back away from the original post but when someone calls you on it) and vote the person that calls you on your bullshit. doubledopplesplangergoodie.

lynch **g**. he/she/it is scum.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/367 "2011-08-17T23:38:45Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Peek, I promise that the first time I am wrong about your tell it will be the last time I ever use it as the basis for any kind of vote against you. The problem is, I have used it as a basis for a vote against you at least 4 times now and I have yet to be wrong.

well get ready for time 1.

and shit you have used it as a basis for not voting for me and have been proved wrong as well.

how is the nafette btw? more pictures on giraffe, please?

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/368 "2011-08-17T23:40:55Z")

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and btw, **naf** i just copied and pasted that comment into my documents. i will use it in the future on this and the other boards.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/369 "2011-08-17T23:43:57Z")

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and really 11 votes. i understand that the “normal” folks are kind of late but shit i thought this other gang was supposed to be kind of participatory. oh, my doper friends beware. i think the fox is in the hen house.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/370 "2011-08-17T23:46:45Z")

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and, of course, we self consume. **peeker** ’s theorem number 45 is now confirmed.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/371 "2011-08-17T23:47:05Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> **vote Timelady**
> 
> for breaking the ‘culture barrier’ and voting along with Zeriel (whose vote was half-joking to begin with), for her stated reason (“obvious vote is obvious”) and for later justifying her vote by pointing out how “early voting tends to be done more by townies”

I’ve been thinking about this vote and it made me go back and look at **TimeLady** ’s vote again.

**TimeLady** , why is the vote obvious?

And, **SP** , are you saying that \*\*TimeLady \*\*is trying to make herself look townie by voting early and then saying “voting early is town”?

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/372 "2011-08-17T23:49:44Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> Scum/Wolves already have much more than 1 piece of information .

Uh, it’s called an abstraction. Let one equal some arbitrary quantity of information. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/373 "2011-08-17T23:52:25Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> i still think **giraffe** needs to get that neck stretched just a tad bit longer. seriously you vote for someone because of another person’s comment and then back down when the votee calls you on it..

Where are you seeing that \*\*Giraffe \*\*backed down? As far as the last vote count, his vote is still in force. Or do you mean something other than “unvoted” for “backed off a vote”?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/374 "2011-08-17T23:54:47Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Where are you seeing that \*\*Giraffe \*\*backed down? As far as the last vote count, his vote is still in force. Or do you mean something other than “unvoted” for “backed off a vote”?

He’s referring to my vote on **DanceCat** , which I moved onto him after our exchange about it.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/375 "2011-08-17T23:56:42Z")

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Hell, I’m turning into **peeker** with the multiposting.

LightFoot, I note you cheerfully spoiler the part of my post where I said “Figuring out when this is a wise decision is literally impossible on Day One in a closed game” and other caveats that made it clear I didn’t think it was a good idea, just that it wasn’t scummy in all cases. All while nitpicking what’s clearly an abstract argument as though it were Fermat’s Last Theorem. Smells like smoke to me, and where there’s smoke there’s…

**unvote Mykbot**  
**vote LightFoot**

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/376 "2011-08-17T23:57:54Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> He’s referring to my vote on **DanceCat** , which I moved onto him after our exchange about it.

This game is moving too damn fast. I had the order of those events reversed. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/377 "2011-08-18T00:01:22Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> This game is moving too damn fast. I had the order of those events reversed. :smack:

The number in brackets on the vote count is the post number in which the vote was made. 🙂

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/378 "2011-08-18T00:19:12Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Uh, it’s called an abstraction. Let one equal some arbitrary quantity of information. :smack:

could it equal -1? in which case when you are at the bottom of the hole you cease digging as it results in the best play.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/379 "2011-08-18T00:20:22Z")

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> [@Dancecat](#):
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> Can anyone tell me anything about Giraffe’s level of experience playing mafia?

18 inches long and prehensile.

> [@peekercpa](#):
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> \<bleached\>
> 
> they just did.
> 
> vote giraffe

I reread those two quotes, **peeker** , and I don’t see the conflict between the two. More than **Giraffe** OMG(W)2BS’s vote, I think you misunderestimatedstood eir vote.

**vote peekercpa**

Side comments OOG:

> [@peekercpa](#):
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> **moi** or **giraffe**. because if it’s **moi** i frequently get mislynched for a variety of stupid dumb ass reasons (you post too much, you post too little, you are making no sense, you are making too much sense, etfuckingcetera).

I haven’t seen **moi** on the Dope in ages, just on WasteOfTimeBook.

> [@Zeriel](#):
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> This game is moving too damn fast. I had the order of those events reversed. :smack:

No freaking kidding. I’m going to have it worse than usual, trying to keep up with the posts.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/380 "2011-08-18T00:23:05Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> Kind of why I will not welcome a lynch but will kind of go, meh. When I flip town it will at least put that tired shit to rest. Plus I may be to dumb to play this game. I thought that not only did you have to pick a target but specify an action as well. Hence my question to NSF earlier.

Which question/where?

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