# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 194
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3862 "2011-08-29T23:11:54Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > [Here’s another for ya.](http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Monkgate) > > Near the end of the page: > “The ensuing debate saw Idle Thoughts resort to posting in Large Font (deliberately recalling his performance in the Pirates game),…” > > So it’s sort of like “my thing” and, at this point, expected of me at least once in every game. : p Well, I’ve always had it come out at least once in every game (and even some games I wasn’t in), so I figured it needed a cameo here. > > Sorry for the annoyance. You’ll probably see it once or twice in future games with me, though, if you play. No worries. I didn’t know it was your thing. I am finding you distracting as hell atm, but that is probably good play if you are scum. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3863 "2011-08-29T23:14:08Z")
I am scum, just so you know…(in reply to your “if you are scum…”)…but I swear that I am traitor-ous scum. I guess instead of a Mason/Wolf role, Gad put in a scum that could win with Town role. Seriously, it IS PLAUSIBLE, you have to admit? ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3864 "2011-08-29T23:16:35Z")
Count me in for another no hammer vote. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3865 "2011-08-29T23:23:57Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I am scum, just so you know…(in reply to your “if you are scum..”)…but I swear that I am traitor-ous scum. > > I guess instead of a Mason/Wolf role, Gad put in a scum that could win with Town role. > Seriously, it IS PLAUSIBLE, you have to admit? It is plausible to have some kind of role that switches allegiances, but not one that works the way you said, which didn’t make sense. How could you have found out your role anyway? I want to squash this, because I know people sometimes get confused. If anyone is kinda doubtful about what Idle’s power is, that’s fine, but he is scum, and needs to be voted off. And yes I should have said ‘as you are scum’ not ‘if you are scum’. Leaving my vote on NAF for now, since there has been some suspicion around him, and it will remind me to take another look at him. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3866 "2011-08-29T23:28:44Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > **unvote Idle Thoughts** > > Hammer?? I am not done with today yet even if Idle is self-admitted scum. > > **vote NAF1138** :rolleyes: You want to wade through Idle doing this for the rest of the Day? Be my guest. I’ll check to see if I am alive in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3867 "2011-08-29T23:29:48Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > Leaving my vote on NAF for now, since there has been some suspicion around him, and it will remind me to take another look at him. Do this. Please, build a case against me. Look at my posts and what I have contributed to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3868 "2011-08-29T23:31:24Z")
> [@Weedy](#): > > It is plausible to have some kind of role that switches allegiances, but not one that works the way you said, which didn’t make sense. > > How could you have found out your role anyway? As I said above (with my real role), I got it just last Night (as one of the “other messages” (I.E. The same kind that told me Dancecat was Town))…so I assume it meant someone else targeted me and I (randomly) got the result. > [@](#): > > I want to squash this, because I know people sometimes get confused. If anyone is kinda doubtful about what Idle’s power is, that’s fine, but he is scum, and needs to be voted off. I win with Town, though, if I successfully make you all believe I’m a traitor, so that’s–in essence–another Townsperson. But, believe me, feel free to vote me off anyway. So since you all will, and thus, have nothing to lose, why not give me the benefit of the doubt? OR, if you want to consider this: I posted my PM (forgetting about the consequences), so will probably be modkilled anyway. Maybe you all should vote for someone ELSE, then, rather then waste a vote on someone who is dying anyway. Hmm, sounds familiar…where have I heard that before? Oh, that’s right. From **Pwnsall** , who was trying to convince everyone it was wolf/wolf on **brewha.** Well, he was right. 🙂 But it’s wolf/wolf with him and I too. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3869 "2011-08-29T23:32:03Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > :rolleyes: > > You want to wade through Idle doing this for the rest of the Day? > > Be my guest. > > I’ll check to see if I am alive in the morning. Faked outrage. _ **VOTE NAF!!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3870 "2011-08-29T23:32:32Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Do this. > > Please, build a case against me. Look at my posts and what I have contributed to the game. Faked try at reverse psychology. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3871 "2011-08-29T23:50:15Z")
Incase you missed it STRAIGHT DOPE SITE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE WEDNESDAY AM * * * The Straight Dope site will be undergoing maintenance on Wednesday, August 31 between 1 AM and 4 AM EDT. For some portion of the 1 AM to 4 AM time the site will be unavailable. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3872 "2011-08-29T23:50:21Z")
I can test Lightfoot’s claim along with what Idle says my role is. I find it implausible that Town has four killers (Vig, Poisoner, Mason kill being the other three), so this seems a safe target to turn on itself. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3873 "2011-08-29T23:52:49Z")
did anyone claim that they got double actions night 2 when ed and I and buff all targeted buff? so that would be day 3/n3 they got double actions ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3874 "2011-08-29T23:53:59Z")
lightfoot would only be odd night vig and tonights even? also i highly doubt wolfs get a full vig and an odd night vig, i would do what you suggest ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3875 "2011-08-30T00:04:44Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Count me in for another no hammer vote. Out of curiosity, can I ask why? I am not asking for the Day to end now. I am asking for town to have the ability to end the Day when the Day has run its course to prevent Idle from drowning the Day the way that, for example Ed has, in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3876 "2011-08-30T00:09:37Z")
Ed will probably do the same in the future, considering he’s a third party. and I take offense that I’m drowning anything out. I’m giving you guys honest, viable information! ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3877 "2011-08-30T00:24:51Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Out of curiosity, can I ask why? I am not asking for the Day to end now. I am asking for town to have the ability to end the Day when the Day has run its course to prevent Idle from drowning the Day the way that, for example Ed has, in the past. More talk (yeah I know that’s rich comming from me) = more chance scum will slip up, again. Also when the new days starts we tend to kick off with what has been revealed without the chance to kick around what happened yesterday. plus i ;d liek to catch up. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3878 "2011-08-30T00:37:58Z")
I don’t think it would be a terrible idea for people to post some reads lists ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3879 "2011-08-30T00:44:12Z")
Sure. Reads Unknown: bufftabby crackedquads J.D./SisterCoyote pwnsall/TimeLady Scathach septimus Silver Jan Suburban Plankton Weedy/Hirka T’Bawa Zeriel Town DonkTimesFour/sachertorte Drain Bead DuckburgDK/MykBot Giraffe lilflower Normal Phase Scuba\_Ben Scum Idle Thoughts Episkey LightFoot Precambrianmollusc Third Party? special ed - He’s special, I don’t think he is scum anymore. But he is being weird. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3880 "2011-08-30T00:45:24Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > More talk (yeah I know that’s rich comming from me) = more chance scum will slip up, again. Also when the new days starts we tend to kick off with what has been revealed without the chance to kick around what happened yesterday. plus i ;d liek to catch up. Again, you understand that asking for a hammer when the lynch is everyone voting for Idle except for Idle isn’t the same as ending the Day early right? It could end the Day early, but it essentially ends whenever town wants. You aren’t ready to finish talking, don’t vote Idle until 1 minute before the end of Day. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3881 "2011-08-30T00:48:52Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I can test Lightfoot’s claim > along with what Idle says my role is. I find it implausible that Town has four killers (Vig, Poisoner, Mason kill being the other three), so this seems a safe target to turn on itself. That should be balanced against the Masons not being able to kill until they had found each other. So the town would probably not have that pro town killing role until later in the game. It was surprisingly fortunate that they found each other so soon in the game, which is why I found their claim a bit suspect at the beginning. It could be that the game balance was to have vig poisoner + one more early in the game, with the balance being a high chance of loosing a vig/poisioner early on to be repalced with the masons finding each other. I was also wondering about the scum and if it they had a designated killer or if it was an general kill. I have seen games go both ways here, sometimes it is a collective kill, sometimes they have to designate. I am sure idle would tell us the truth. So far we have 5 killing roles identified Guri (T) - vig he had a gun ATPG (T) - poisoner Texcat/GnarlyCharlie (T) - mason kill after they find each other Scum - Colective kill according to the rules “Wolves get a team nightkill every night” Brewha (S) - vig one kill every night from n1 onwards. I was trying to read something into the no colour kills vs the shooting. N1 guri probably shot Malahoth ( I would think it unlikly that scum targeted scum on N1) plus two no colour kills on town (scum collective and Brewha?) N2 someone picked up Guris gun and shot innerstickler, the wording indicates possible misidentification - n2 the mason kills would have become active Dance cat had multiple people with him in a no colour kill - collective scum kill? peekerCPA killed with no colour (Brewha?) N3 Astral rejection shot - could be the masons with Guris gun Texcat - killed no colour - Brewha or the scum collective kill gnarlycharlie - shot? so now two shooters - or is it a mod error on the colour and it was the other one of the scum kills? obviously I left out the poisoning. Also no colour kill = no cuase of death identified in the reveal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=193) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=195)