# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3902 "2011-08-30T02:09:29Z")

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**crackedquads**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3903 "2011-08-30T02:16:15Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Question marks are funny?
> 
> HAHAHAHAHA
> 
> :dubious:

Am I being whooshed or was this serious? Not that it really matters. DB why am I probably scum?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3904 "2011-08-30T02:20:15Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Am I being whooshed or was this serious? Not that it really matters. DB why am I probably scum?

Nothing probably about it.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3905 "2011-08-30T02:21:41Z")

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I am being weird today. Sorry about that. I will stop fucking around it isn’t going to do any good and probably hurts town. I will be vigorously defending myself against accusations of scumminess though. Because I genuinely believe that it will be good for town.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3906 "2011-08-30T02:23:15Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Nothing probably about it.

Your mom.

Ok now I am done.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3907 "2011-08-30T02:34:22Z")

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It’s okay, NAF, I know you’re mad that I outed you…I’d be upset too. But I had a separate wincon from you and the others.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3908 "2011-08-30T02:38:06Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> I can test Lightfoot’s claim  
> along with what Idle says my role is. I find it implausible that Town has four killers (Vig, Poisoner, Mason kill being the other three), so this seems a safe target to turn on itself.

if I do what I think I do and you do what you think you do I’m fine with that. I win with Town

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3909 "2011-08-30T02:52:34Z")

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NAF, I’m in the unique position of knowing that Idle wasn’t lying about me (thanks for telling me what I do, bud…smooches!) in his not-so-carefully concocted role reveal speech. Chances are he was trying to get Town cred for you by offering your role but swapping out the wincon, a detail he neglected when crafting his own. I certainly know he wasn’t lying about me.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3910 "2011-08-30T02:59:58Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> if I do what I think I do and you do what you think you do I’m fine with that. I win with Town

Damn If I’m role blocked (if Scum knows their RB) then we might not get anywhere  
I know what I am going to do.

I will (with time) give more info later

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3911 "2011-08-30T03:03:25Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Am I being whooshed or was this serious? Not that it really matters. DB why am I probably scum?

I had a question mark in my post. It was a clear sign of humor. So I laughed.

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3912 "2011-08-30T03:34:00Z")

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I have been rereading Idle’s older posts. He has been very ready to bus, and the people he calls town have tended to be town. FWIW his ‘suspects’ that are still around are Ben and PCM. Of the otherboarders/PoGgers he called Episkey and crackedquads helpful, and sangaman suspicious (way before the ‘9 scum’ slip), and the rest neutral. I think at least one of Episkey and crackedquads must be town, and maybe both. He said lilflower was pro-town, so I think she is clear. That probably sounds backwards, but he was adamant that Inner Stickler was a bad lynch, and lilflower has had a bit of heat, and I think he was wanting to look good when she flipped town.

The other thing I noticed was his argument with Silver Jan over whether or not she is a roleblocker. Idle posted this at Night:

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Wooohooo!  
> And forgive me if this breaks the “No strategy at Night” rule, but it’s like so like beating my head against the wall, that I have to reply:
> 
> :rolleyes: What part of this are you not reading? I DID GET A RESULT: **I WAS BLOCKED!** I’ve said that twice now. I was blocked. I was specifically told I was BLOCKED from performing my Night action.
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> So…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…let’s see. It was probably due to someone who targeted me. Hmmmmmm…who said they targeted me that Night. OH…YOU did, that’s right.
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> You targeted me Night 2 and I was blocked on Night 2: Therefore: Why in heck’s name is it so hard for you to think you might be a roleblocker? Seriously: 2+2=4! It’s basic logic skills here, Jan.

If that is two wolves arguing together, then that is pretty clearly strategy. I think this is probably genuine frustration that Jan doesn’t follow the logic. So Jan is likely townie.

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**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3913 "2011-08-30T03:35:55Z")

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☹ Maybe I should have asked Gadarene about that last bit before I posted it.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3914 "2011-08-30T03:41:44Z")

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I like how you take my past posts as true on faith, not thinking that I could have been planing misleading seeds even back then. 🙂

Telling ya, Episkey is scum.

And so are the other three.

You’ll learn.  
When you’re on the brink of losing, you’ll learn.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3915 "2011-08-30T03:50:26Z")

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\*\*Unvote NAF

Vote NAF\*\*

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3916 "2011-08-30T03:57:19Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> I’m not asking about the specific wording. What I wanted to know is if it was abundantly clear from your PM that you were blocked, or if you were merely inferring it from some other information yo received?

yes i was roleblocked

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3917 "2011-08-30T03:59:20Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Yep, after we had discussed it for **over an hou** r on the scum boards.
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> Seriously, go back and look how long it was between my accidental outing post and when someone finally noticed it. Almost an hour.
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> Whereas I realized what I had done right away.  
> Hence my going to the scum boards. Hence us figuring out how to give him Town cred.
> 
> Only thing is…he didn’t know I was a traitor role.

yeah? so you had him out the slip on purpose you claim because no one did it for so long?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3918 "2011-08-30T04:06:47Z")

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> [@Weedy](#):
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> ☹ Maybe I should have asked Gadarene about that last bit before I posted it.

Nah, it’s fine. Just don’t do it again and stuff.

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3919 "2011-08-30T04:14:13Z")

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Gadarene want to play a drinking game?

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3920 "2011-08-30T04:15:38Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
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> yeah? so you had him out the slip on purpose you claim because no one did it for so long?

More like: I/We knew it was coming eventually, so why not get town cred out of it.

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/3921 "2011-08-30T04:16:51Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> More like: I/We knew it was coming eventually, so why not get town cred out of it.

That’s quite interesting

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