# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 207
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4122 "2011-08-31T20:16:27Z")
Continued [spoiler] > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Sorry that wasnt clear > > Please see post 2743 which shows the vote timing of yesterdays votes > > Blastermaster was on 8 votes (Idle being the 8th) then the Inner Stickler roll started, with Brewha posting the 8th vote to tie it, followed by BlasterMaster to put IS in the lead, Peeker and pwnsall pushed it the other way (so obviously I am leaning town on pwnsall, peeker was town, alas no longer with us) > post 2743 , that was 600 post ago, on the same game day. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Didn’t Pizza also say he receievd info that NAF was a wolf the same night he received info you were wolf That was a reply to \*\* Episkey\*\* Later asks \*\* pwnsall \*\* who e targetted [/spoiler] ^ this bit may be handy later. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Suburban Plankton > > the apothecary role is town > > 2754 - "Last night I was told I had a role (x) and an alignment (town). > > so role = apothecary > alingement = town > > It probably wasn’t clear as i was trying not to put out too much information at that point. > > As we seam to be laying out all our cards > > I am a/the town watcher. I target someone and get a message as to who visits them > > N1 I targeted Episki - visited by someone > N2 I targeted Suburban Plankton - visited by no one > N2 I was also told I was the town apothecary > N3 I targeted Pwnsall (I figured he/she is a dead lock as town and scum would probably kill them), and found out that nobody visited Septimus A claim blooms no solid information here. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Well that makes life easy. > vote > **Idle Thoughts** > > Pwnsall, yes I know who visited Episki Another easy vote There is a comment to \*\* Idle \*\* about him possibly tell the truth occasionally > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > I saw Suburban Plankton visit Episki night one. Posted AFTER \*\* SP \*\* shared his targets. Votes for no hammer > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > More talk (yeah I know that’s rich comming from me) = more chance scum will slip up, again. Also when the new days starts we tend to kick off with what has been revealed without the chance to kick around what happened yesterday. plus i ;d liek to catch up. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Originally Posted by Drain Bead > I can test Lightfoot’s claim > along with what Idle says my role is. I find it implausible that Town has four killers (Vig, Poisoner, Mason kill being the other three), so this seems a safe target to turn on itself. > > That should be balanced against the Masons not being able to kill until they had found each other. So the town would probably not have that pro town killing role until later in the game. It was surprisingly fortunate that they found each other so soon in the game, which is why I found their claim a bit suspect at the beginning. > > It could be that the game balance was to have vig poisoner + one more early in the game, with the balance being a high chance of loosing a vig/poisioner early on to be repalced with the masons finding each other. > > I was also wondering about the scum and if it they had a designated killer or if it was an general kill. I have seen games go both ways here, sometimes it is a collective kill, sometimes they have to designate. I am sure idle would tell us the truth. > So far we have 5 killing roles identified > > Guri (T) - vig he had a gun > ATPG (T) - poisoner > Texcat/GnarlyCharlie (T) - mason kill after they find each other > > Scum - Colective kill according to the rules “Wolves get a team nightkill every night” > Brewha (S) - vig one kill every night from n1 onwards. > > I was trying to read something into the no colour kills vs the shooting. > N1 guri probably shot Malahoth ( I would think it unlikly that scum targeted scum on N1) plus two no colour kills on town (scum collective and Brewha?) > > N2 someone picked up Guris gun and shot innerstickler, the wording indicates possible misidentification - n2 the mason kills would have become active > Dance cat had multiple people with him in a no colour kill - collective scum kill? > peekerCPA killed with no colour (Brewha?) > > N3 Astral rejection shot - could be the masons with Guris gun > Texcat - killed no colour - Brewha or the scum collective kill > gnarlycharlie - shot? so now two shooters - or is it a mod error on the colour and it was the other one of the scum kills? > > obviously I left out the poisoning. > Also no colour kill = no cuase of death identified in the reveal. No mention of me being a killer but it’s ok to direct my power at me. Eventhough \*\* SP\*\* has made a pretty good case that I do kill people. [spoiler] > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Yes - my understanding of a hammer would be if an overwhelming majority vote for Idle, the day would end early. Either way Gad hasnt raised it , so probably not a major issue, and I think we can filter out Idle if people just dont respond or use his posts from this point on for analysis > Do Not Feed The Outed Scum. 🙂 [/spoiler] could be distancing. [spoiler] > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Town > Septimus - for the catch of Idle > pwnsall - for keeping the lynch off of IS D2 > lilflower - sort of for jumping off the IS bandwagoon > > Scum > Scuba ben - for being on the IS and Krazy bandwaggons > Lightfoot - same reason > > unknown > Scathatch - seamed to have claimed to be apthecary > EpiSki and Cracked Quads, mostly OMGUS reactions > Drainbead, Giraffe, Donk, Weedy, NAF, Suburban plankton - no idea > > Blaster Master… InnerStickler > Donk (1135) > Septimus (1808) > …texCat (T)(2204) > DanceCat (T) (2258) > Normal Phase (2272) > Episki (2295) > DrainBead(2322) > IdleThoughts (S) (2326) > NAF1138 (2347) > …ScubaBen (2376) > …Lightfoot (2403) > …GnarlyCharlie (T) (2446) > …ScatHach (2451) > …SilverJan (2460) > …BrewHa (S) (2466) > …BlasterMaster (S) (2486) > Pwnsall (2491) > PeekerCPA(2492) > > On the Krazy Waggon we had > Drainbead > Sanagamn (S) > Malahoth (S) > IdleThoughts (S) > LightFoot > ScubaBen > PrecambrianMollusc [/spoiler] A few players PCM is clearing/ FOSing and a repeat of the wagon voters This time with colour. Below is a response to a question from **Weedy** [spoiler] > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Well not the entire waggon - not me and I have no idea about Drainbead > > When you put it like that, seams less likely, still suspicious of Lightfoot and scuba. > > I didn’t see the post where you asked before, if you could point me to it, I was hoping with some people gone the post count would be more manageable. This is the second or 3rd time I have mentioned Krazy lynch, so it is hardly a big deal, I just think it is worth examining history in the light of what we know now about various players alinements. The last lynch (sangamans slip) and this lynch won’t tell us much about voting patterns. I am going back to look at what happened prior to sangamans boo boo. > although for tonight I am done. > > Idle Thoughts - as he has nothing else to do other than await a noose, his posts and username have to be the sweetest combination ever. [/spoiler] A rerehash of D1 voting (really) and a poke at \*\* Idle \*\* > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > well bugger - I assumed that wolves had only night time talk (prior game assumption syndrome) so was ignoring Idles talk of figuring things out and having sangamans ppost knowledge of the find > “Wolves received a similar PM, which also gave them details about their 24-hour chat privileges” > > that does put pwnsall less of a town lock. But not a whole lot. This post just smells Funny. > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Apologies - 9 y.o girl didn’t want to go to bed, they are truly a great resource for convoluted reasons of why not to do something that needs to be done. > > Well you are asking definitive statements of things that are highly uncertain. > > Lightfoot and scuba are up there > Episki - not sure I found Episkies ignoring of ATPG claims that ATPG had received info that both Idle and Episki were scum odd as episki only focused on ATPG saying he was scum thus tried to QED that as he (episki) had targeted ATPG, and came back with a scum read on Episki, obviously he (episki) is an insane cop type role and therefore town . Just seamed a luittle too happy to ignore other information out there in order to lay out a case for his innocence. Now thatIdle has been shown to be scum, Either Epi told ATPG the truth about Idle, or Epi told the truth about someone, but the name was changed to be himself. Which oddly is what happened to me with the apothecary role. As it happened on the same night it could be we have more than one confuser/name switcher out there, or some doubling going on. And corrected > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Correct NAF, not Idle > I confuse the two of you, you sound alike > > FWIW I confuse Inner Stickler and Suburban Plankton a lot, I blame it on stickler sounding like Stickleback, which is a fish, and plankton has the whole aquatic theme going as well. Add to that Inner makes me think Inner City which with Suburban has a whole civil planning connotation. Here \*\* Episki \*\* is getting a lot of love (obviously he is Town) underlining mine > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > OK, well enjoy you evening, SCUM!!! > > night all.. I’ve seen a lynch for less than the statement above. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4123 "2011-08-31T21:00:24Z")
@ **LightFoot** , have you any idea of your role yet? I think I do but I could be very much mistaken. If I am right then I would soft clear you. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4124 "2011-08-31T21:02:28Z")
Actually I think I am wrong!! You couldn’t be what I thought you were “bashes head on table” ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4125 "2011-08-31T21:03:00Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > @ **LightFoot** , have you any idea of your role yet? I think I do but I could be very much mistaken. If I am right then I would soft clear you. You have missed alot it seems N1 Target woke up dead silman N2 (according to SP) I was redirected to peeker and he woke up dead N3 Target woke up shot gnarly I really looks like I kill people and if I don’t stop killing Town I won’t be here long ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4126 "2011-08-31T21:04:04Z")
NETA either way my goose has a short shelf life ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4127 "2011-08-31T21:17:18Z")
I think EOD is less than 2 hours Can anyone confirm? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4128 "2011-08-31T21:18:47Z")
I realize my role and alignment are suspect to many. AND There is a good chance that MY research means nothing to you. When I wake up dead (I’m sure my lifespan is short -a few Days tops) Someone might find this usefull. And to prove my point \*\* Unvote\*\* My vote there will not change the outcome He’s a gonner I made my case I’m going to back it up with a \*\* vote PCM \*\* The death reveal of \*\* Idle \*\* Should will give us more information but if it is good or not will be determined. sorry if I got pizza on your shirt. Call my drycleaner. (atleast I tried to spoiler a bunch of it) ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4129 "2011-08-31T21:19:37Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I think EOD is less than 2 hours > Can anyone confirm? That sounds right. I think the end of the Day is at 7:00 EST. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4130 "2011-08-31T21:30:38Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I think EOD is less than 2 hours > Can anyone confirm? I can confirm. ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4131 "2011-08-31T21:30:55Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Apparently there isn’t anything I can do that will make you all listen to me. In fact, everytime I try all I get is “but how can you proooove what you’re saying is true?”. I obviously can’t without dying. And then once I do each and every one of you will say something like “oh, thats too bad nothing we could have done, oh well” despite there being literally zero case on me except “Poggers said he was a good wolf”, “A message which could be false said so”, and **“A dead detective called someone else significantly more scummy than him and then voted for that person”**. I hope you are not too frustrated. If you are an insane cop, then you are useful, just a bit confusing to start with. You need to stop saying that last sentence though. Astral decided you weren’t worth voting for on Day 2, but you suddenly were on Day 3. He did vote for you then. This is like the third time I have said this, and you keep ignoring it, and saying how he didn’t vote for you on Day 2. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4132 "2011-08-31T21:39:47Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > You have missed alot it seems > > N1 Target woke up dead silman > N2 (according to SP) I was redirected to peeker and he woke up dead > N3 Target woke up shot gnarly > > I really looks like I kill people and if I don’t stop killing Town I won’t be here long Actually I thought you were breadcrumbing??? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4133 "2011-08-31T21:43:20Z")
@ \*\* Drain Bead \*\* I know I said I had no problem with you taking me out (“If I do what I think I do and if you do what you think you do”) I would like you to wait one Day if it makes sense to you to do so. I wrote a longer post about it but it may have escaped your read with all the other bits flying about this Day ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4134 "2011-08-31T21:43:52Z")
Ok, I have to stay awake til 1am, I want to but it’s not going to happen. I know its only about an hour and a half away but my eyes are closing already. The really sad thing is, I am hyped, I want to know if **Idle** is a traitor or just scum. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4135 "2011-08-31T21:45:00Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Actually I thought you were breadcrumbing??? There you go sounding mysterious again. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4136 "2011-08-31T21:46:10Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > Ok, I have to stay awake til 1am, I want to but it’s not going to happen. I know its only about an hour and a half away but my eyes are closing already. The really sad thing is, I am hyped, I want to know if **Idle** is a traitor or just scum. You can get some sleep. Either way he’ll be dead when you return. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4137 "2011-08-31T21:51:01Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > @ \*\* Drain Bead \*\* I know I said I had no problem with you taking me out (“If I do what I think I do and if you do what you think you do”) > I would like you to wait one Day if it makes sense to you to do so. > I wrote a longer post about it but it may have escaped your read with all the other bits flying about this Day Do you really think that you are a killer? It certainly looks that way but… this game is odd. I would love to know who else targeted you last Night cos you said you felt “a warm glow” If I were you I would target someone that \*\*Idle \*\* mentioned and if you are the Vig then at least we we will know a little bit more. **Idle** could be telling the truth in this whacked and brilliant game 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4138 "2011-08-31T21:52:49Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Why did you target your scum buddy Episkey on Night 3? > > Also, why haven’t you been modkilled for posting your role PM? Is it because it’s fake? When did Idle say he targeted Episkey? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4139 "2011-08-31T21:57:19Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > There you go sounding mysterious again. I don’t mean to be mysterious, ever, but things pop into my brain and I start typing and then I pull back and think “but what if I am outing a power role?” and so it goes on. You and someone else were typing “he” without the “H” so I thought that you could be Masons? Then I realised that the Masons were already dead, if there were only 2 of them? I think I should give up thinking lol, Idle already thinks I don’t think :D. Is that complicated or what ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4140 "2011-08-31T21:58:02Z")
I don’t have time to check. Idle’s claim was Detective. If he did target Episkey then Episkey is scum, and Idle was trying to help him figure out his role. **vote Episkey** ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4141 "2011-08-31T21:58:55Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I don’t mean to be mysterious, ever, but things pop into my brain and I start typing and then I pull back and think “but what if I am outing a power role?” and so it goes on. You and someone else were typing “he” without the “H” so I thought that you could be Masons? Then I realised that the Masons were already dead, if there were only 2 of them? I think I should give up thinking lol, Idle already thinks I don’t think :D. Is that complicated or what ☹ “e” instead of he/she because I’m not sure all the genders trying to be non gender specific. Sorry about the confusion there [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=206) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=208)