# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 213
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4242 "2011-09-01T20:51:33Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > @Scuba: That I’m a wolf. Just to clarify, you received a message last Night telling you that you are a Wolf? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4243 "2011-09-01T20:51:47Z")
(It doesn’t really fit the earlier color about someone finding Guiri’s gun, either.) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4244 "2011-09-01T20:52:36Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Good evening Jan! > > Why do you think you can soft-clear me? Every bit of info helps. > > And what do you think might have been your fault and why? Damn cos I think you are the last Mason and by saying this, I could have you killed ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4245 "2011-09-01T20:52:43Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Just to clarify, you received a message last Night telling you that you are a Wolf? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4246 "2011-09-01T20:52:57Z")
Episkey, please post your guesses about your role again. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4247 "2011-09-01T20:53:32Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Read the write-up, SP; her mason power is described as a protection. Oops. I must confess, I skimmed. I saw “Mason” and quit reading. So, she never found her fellow Mason, so her protective ability never became effective. So why did her targets keep ending up dead? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4248 "2011-09-01T20:53:33Z")
I was looking back at **Idle** ’s [#3721](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14196240&postcount=3721). We now know he was Scum/Detective. He claimed one investigation result, from Night 1, that NAF is Town/Mimic. Pending further analysis, I am inclined to believe he honestly reported his investigation result. Therefore PizzaGuy’s message from N2 about NAF was false and the message about Episkey was true. **vote Episkey** AOP: Episkey, please summarize why you believe yourself Town/Insane and NAF Scum/probable Mimic. The two together would help convince me to move my vote Today. AOP2: Jan, why do you think I’m a mason? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4249 "2011-09-01T20:59:46Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > NAF was supposed to be using my and lilflower’s powers last night, but there was no doubling of the shooting. Unless something’s going on that I don’t understand the shooter should not be him (or either of us). I don’t follow. What shooting? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4250 "2011-09-01T21:01:14Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > I was looking back at **Idle** ’s [#3721](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14196240&postcount=3721). We now know he was Scum/Detective. He claimed one investigation result, from Night 1, that NAF is Town/Mimic. Pending further analysis, I am inclined to believe he honestly reported his investigation result. > > Therefore PizzaGuy’s message from N2 about NAF was false and the message about Episkey was true. > > **vote Episkey** > > AOP: Episkey, please summarize why you believe yourself Town/Insane and NAF Scum/probable Mimic. The two together would help convince me to move my vote Today. > > AOP2: Jan, why do you think I’m a mason? I think you are a Mason cos **LightFoot** is very good at breadcumbing and she always said “e” instead of he or she, you can look it up in the night thread and you were the only person to respond to this. Sorry, but you asked. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4251 "2011-09-01T21:01:54Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Episkey, please post your guesses about your role again. > [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > I was looking back at **Idle** ’s [#3721](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14196240&postcount=3721). We now know he was Scum/Detective. He claimed one investigation result, from Night 1, that NAF is Town/Mimic. Pending further analysis, I am inclined to believe he honestly reported his investigation result. > > Therefore PizzaGuy’s message from N2 about NAF was false and the message about Episkey was true. > > **vote Episkey** > > AOP: Episkey, please summarize why you believe yourself Town/Insane and NAF Scum/probable Mimic. The two together would help convince me to move my vote Today. > > AOP2: Jan, why do you think I’m a mason? I mean I’ve explained this 94 times. 1. I’ve targeted Silver Jan,Pizza, Gnarly, Pwnsall 2. Silver Jan and Pizza received false messages (flipped) 3. Gnarly died and I received a false message in response (pwnsall) 4. I targeted pwnsall and got a msg that my role was wolf (false) I am an insane detective. I get backwards results. It’s that simple, yet the wolves dont even have to kill me because you guys are just gonna lynch me for having a confusing role anyways. We’ve also been from saying “There could be more than one false message” to “If NAF flips villa Episkey has to be scum” which makes literally zero sense ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SEEN THINGS LIKE PEOPLE HAVING TWO TARGETS. The outed wolf yesterday fucked up a claim that completely and utterly implicates me based on town thought process at the time, almost got be lynched, then was caught and now people keep trying to lynch me. Theres literally no case at all that I’m scum except messages which have been proven false already. None. Zero. Nada. We’re in a great spot and villagers are turning their brains off and autopiloting instead of closing this out. Gnarly wasnt a wolf, he was a mason, and my target got a message stating otherwise Pizza got one of me saying wolf. I’m not a wolf. It’s backwards. I got one yesterday stating pwns was a wolf. He’s not. It’s backwards. I got one today stating I’m wolf. I’m not. It’s backwards. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4252 "2011-09-01T21:03:46Z")
pwns you need to confirm you didnt get a message from me person who targeted me, you need to confirm you redirected me ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4253 "2011-09-01T21:04:53Z")
**Vote Episkey** For the last two days, I haven’t a good reason now but just look back at my voting record. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4254 "2011-09-01T21:06:22Z")
And I’m sorry I’m starting to sound rude and all that, I’m just beyond frustrated that after the wolf tries to get me lynched the next day starts with being voted. If the slip wasn’t caught I’d be dead right now. You have to factor that in and not just say “Meh, this is weird. Vote you!” ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4255 "2011-09-01T21:07:47Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > **Vote Episkey** > > For the last two days, I haven’t a good reason now but just look back at my voting record. I’m just going to beat my head into a wall. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4256 "2011-09-01T21:09:40Z")
Silver Jan, you have to have something to say about this entire discussion thats been occurring for two gamedays regarding my role. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4257 "2011-09-01T21:11:17Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > I was looking back at **Idle** ’s [#3721](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14196240&postcount=3721). We now know he was Scum/Detective. He claimed one investigation result, from Night 1, that NAF is Town/Mimic. Pending further analysis, I am inclined to believe he honestly reported his investigation result. As I was trying to figure out if I agreed with this, another thought came to mind: Normally there would be no reason for a Scum Detective to investigate Scum, because he would already know their roles. In this case, though, there would be something to gain, in that he could discover his fellow Scum’s abilities. It would have been risky for him to have targeted one of his own on Night 1, having no idea what his own abilities were, but by Night 2 he should have pretty much known what he was. That throws some suspicion on **Drain Bead** as possibly being a Scum Redirector. On the other hand, Drain Bead did vote for **Blaster Master** on Day 2, moving him into a tie with **Scuba\_Ben** , so that suggests she is \*not \*Scum. But on the third hand, \*\*Idle \*\*unvoted Scuba\_Ben to vote Blaster Master just 4 votes after Drain, so who knows what the Scum are thinking in this game… ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4258 "2011-09-01T21:12:07Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I think you are a Mason cos **LightFoot** is very good at breadcumbing and she always said “e” instead of he or she, you can look it up in the night thread and you were the only person to respond to this. Sorry, but you asked. I always use Spivak pronouns in Mafia, until I’m sure of someone’s sex. I am notorious for this. > [@Episkey](#): > > I mean I’ve explained this 94 times. > > 1. I’ve targeted Silver Jan,Pizza, Gnarly, Pwnsall > 2. Silver Jan and Pizza received false messages (flipped) > 3. Gnarly died and I received a false message in response (pwnsall) > 4. I targeted pwnsall and got a msg that my role was wolf (false) > I am an insane detective. I get backwards results. It’s that simple, yet the wolves dont even have to kill me because you guys are just gonna lynch me for having a confusing role anyways. At this point, I mostly believe your results and your conclusion that you are an insane alignment whisperer. > [@](#): > > We’ve also been from saying “There could be more than one false message” to “If NAF flips villa Episkey has to be scum” which makes literally zero sense ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SEEN THINGS LIKE PEOPLE HAVING TWO TARGETS. To reply to that, I feel it’s in the Town’s interest for me to publish my full list of targets and outcomes. To wit: This table assumes that I was reflected onto myself Night 1, as per Drain Bead claiming to have targeted me N1 and Idle claiming to have received a message that Drain Bead is Town/Reflector. I have previously claimed the messages that I received. ```auto Night Target Message they received ----- -------------- ---------------------------------- 1 Scuba Ben gnarlycharlie (now Dead) is a Villager 2 Giraffe pwnsall is a Villager 2 AskThePizzaGuy Episkey is a Wolf; NAF1138 is a Wolf (cannot tell which was mine, but see D4 #3721 claim by known Scum investigating NAF as Town) 3 Scuba Ben Weedy (killed Night 4) is a Villager 4 Drain Bead special ed is a Villager ``` I conclude from this table that I am a Sane alignment whisperer. And therefore at least one of the messages PizzaGuy reported must be accurate. This table also confirms (firmly, to me) that \*\*pwnsall \*\*and \*\*special ed \*\*are Villagers. ed, sorry for doubting you Yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4259 "2011-09-01T21:13:18Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I think you are a Mason cos **LightFoot** is very good at breadcumbing and she always said “e” instead of he or she, you can look it up in the night thread and you were the only person to respond to this. Sorry, but you asked. So you’re saying you think \*\*LightFoot \*\*and **Scuba\_Ben** found each other, and therefore gained their protective ability? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4260 "2011-09-01T21:14:49Z")
Assessment of my reveal, Idle’s claim, and Episkey’s claim. I am perfectly happy with lynching either \*\*Episkey \*\*or \*\*NAF \*\*Today, depending on assessments of who’s more likely to be Scum and what we make of Idle’s claimed investigation. _waits for people to catch up and process my table of actions_ ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4261 "2011-09-01T21:21:36Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Yes. I just don’t get this game, why would you say you are a Wolf? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=212) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=214)