# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 215
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4282 "2011-09-01T22:07:09Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Why do you just now believe him? We’ve been having this discussion for an entire Day already. I am not sure I actually believe Him but the way \*\*Idle \*\*went on, I really thought he was scum 'til **Idle** said he was a scum buddy. It’s Midnight!! I NEED Sleep!! I will have to read in the morning and answer all questions 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4283 "2011-09-01T22:08:42Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Why do you just now believe him? We’ve been having this discussion for an entire Day already. Two Days actually 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4284 "2011-09-01T22:09:57Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Posting from under the Hudson river. It’s an exciting world. If we have to test claims please lynch me first. I dont wajr to do this again tomorrow. Please stay safe XOXOXO ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4285 "2011-09-01T22:12:02Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Because I’m not a wolf. I got a false message saying I was one. Instead of insane, could you bee paranoid? Did you get any Villager reads? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4286 "2011-09-01T22:16:19Z")
I was unable to perform my action last Night. I have no explanation, but I know it to be true. In the game, I mean, not with the little people. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4287 "2011-09-01T22:18:50Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Pwnsall, I targeted you but have reason to believe you received no message. Am I correct? i did not receive a message i did get a “positive” result on zeriel ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4288 "2011-09-01T22:19:50Z")
when i’ve said positive i just mean i get a result rather than blocked or no result ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4289 "2011-09-01T22:20:27Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Instead of insane, could you bee paranoid? Did you get any Villager reads? It’s possible, though less likely imo since paranoid seer makes my role significantly more awful than insane, and insane is already awful. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4290 "2011-09-01T22:21:40Z")
**MODERATOR QUESTION** We need a sub. In the event that no one else presents themselves in the immediate future, how would people feel about letting LightFoot back in the game to sub in? She figures it would be easier on everyone than having to get a brand new person up to speed, and I tend to agree, although obviously it might also cause some confusion. Thus, I leave it up to you folk. If people have a strong objection to it, then that’s totally fine, and I’ll scour the streets and such to see if I can whip up a different replacement. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4291 "2011-09-01T22:25:25Z")
probably better than a modkill she was a mason right? so doesn’t have much knowledge other than who else are not masons whatever, game is pretty lax imo ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4292 "2011-09-01T22:27:07Z")
Agree, better than a mod kill ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4293 "2011-09-01T22:29:56Z")
The fact that you’re willing to let her back in does pretty much confirm that she had not found her fellow Mason yet (or else she’d have an advantage coming back). Of course, there was pretty good evidence to suggest just that even without confirmation. I have no problem with LightFoot subbing back in. Non-participation is pretty much not an option in this game, and I’d rather not have a Mod-kill, and I’d hate to subject a new player to the horror of trying to catch up on 4300 posts. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4294 "2011-09-01T22:31:09Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > probably better than a modkill > > she was a mason right? so doesn’t have much knowledge other than who else are not masons > > whatever, game is pretty lax imo and she’s at best one person ahead of the rest of us, since her targets had a bad habit of turning up dead. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4295 "2011-09-01T22:31:47Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > The fact that you’re willing to let her back in does pretty much confirm that she had not found her fellow Mason yet (or else she’d have an advantage coming back). Of course, there was pretty good evidence to suggest just that even without confirmation. > > I have no problem with LightFoot subbing back in. Non-participation is pretty much not an option in this game, and I’d rather not have a Mod-kill, and I’d hate to subject a new player to the horror of trying to catch up on 4300 posts. She will hold a small advantage. She knows several people who are not masons. Were she to sub in as Town, that information might be useful in figuring out claims. Were she to sub in as Scum, that might help them figure out which power roles are which. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4296 "2011-09-01T22:34:08Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Posting from under the Hudson river. It’s an exciting world. If we have to test claims please lynch me first. I dont wajr to do this again tomorrow. Why would you NEED to do this again tomorrow? If you’re Town, then Episkey is most likely Scum. I’ll go ahead and try to clear this up. My other target was Episkey. I was curious what he’d say. It doesn’t make sense to me that he sends false messages about other people to his intended target. I would have expected, based on his claim, that he would have gotten a false message about a random person sent to him, not another false message about himself. Am I reading this wrong? Right now, BOTH of them seem Scummy to me. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4297 "2011-09-01T22:47:46Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > She will hold a small advantage. She knows several people who are not masons. > > Were she to sub in as Town, that information might be useful in figuring out claims. > > Were she to sub in as Scum, that might help them figure out which power roles are which. She only knows one person at best. The people she targeted Nights 1-3 are dead. And since she was killed on Night 4, it stands to reason that she didn’t receive a result, so really she should have no more information than the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4298 "2011-09-01T23:05:36Z")
Has there been any big cliff posts made? I’m so far behind and feel like I’m being crushed by all this lost information. If there isn’t one I would greaaaatly appreciate if someone could give me a decent run down. From what I’ve skimmed if we’re really polarizing our lynch to NAF and episkey I’m inclined to lynch NAF. I have a feel for the way jim plays and while he can be a pretty damn good wolf he’s made a post or two on the last page that is screaming villager to me. And WRT to my absenteeism before it comes back up - I was in another massive game on the 2p2 boards and had probably the most time demanding role in the game so all my free pc time was spent on that. Figured with the 28 years this game will take to complete I could put this one on the back burner for the time being. It finished yesterday (for me at least + I was victorious) so now it’s time to put in some work over here. To **NAF and Episkey** - I’d love to see some sort of reads lists from you guys. It’ll def help me decide which way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4299 "2011-09-01T23:09:45Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > \*\*Scuba\_Ben’s \*\*theory, on the other hand, seems rock solid. Of course, I don’t believe he ever told us any of his targets other than \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*on Night 1 before his recent post, so we don’t really know if the evidence supports the theory because the theory its correct, or because the premises were made up specifically to fit the theory. You are correct – I had not disclosed my N2 or N3 targets until Today, just in case I built up enough information to make a reasonable conclusion about my role. > [@pwnsall](#): > > i did get a “positive” result on zeriel > [@pwnsall](#): > > when i’ve said positive i just mean i get a result rather than blocked or no result What result _did_ you get? > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I’ll go ahead and try to clear this up. My other target was Episkey. I was curious what he’d say. It doesn’t make sense to me that he sends false messages about other people to his intended target. I would have expected, based on his claim, that he would have gotten a false message about a random person sent to him, not another false message about himself. Am I reading this wrong? > > Right now, BOTH of them seem > Scummy to me. Your other target, which Night? Dang, I need a play-by-play transcript. > [@Gadarene](#): > > **MODERATOR QUESTION** > > We need a sub. In the event that no one else presents themselves in the immediate future, how would people feel about letting LightFoot back in the game to sub in? She figures it would be easier on everyone than having to get a brand new person up to speed, and I tend to agree, although obviously it might also cause some confusion. Thus, I leave it up to you folk. If people have a strong objection to it, then that’s totally fine, and I’ll scour the streets and such to see if I can whip up a different replacement. I’m cool with that. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4300 "2011-09-01T23:10:09Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Why would you NEED to do this again tomorrow? If you’re Town, then Episkey is most likely Scum. > > I’ll go ahead and try to clear this up. My other target was Episkey. I was curious what he’d say. It doesn’t make sense to me that he sends false messages about other people to his intended target. I would have expected, based on his claim, that he would have gotten a false message about a random person sent to him, not another false message about himself. Am I reading this wrong? > > Right now, BOTH of them seem > Scummy to me. Has a role been revealed of a villager who sends his target always wolf peeks? Insane/paranoid seer or w/e the hell episkey is claiming could just be a cover for him being a wolf who sends villagers bad information. If Episkey dies and flips wolf I’d imagine we can discount the players he targeted as wolves also because he wouldn’t want to draw that sort of scrutiny towards them when they say “oh I’ve been told so and so is a wolf” and then that villager gets mislynched along with the one who said he received the message. Just speculating on that though, and also note that’s barring redirects and randomizers, etc. But it seems like episkey has been relatively straight forward about his targets so red/randomizers might not be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4301 "2011-09-01T23:14:50Z")
pwnsall do you recall if there was a villager role that sent his targets “villager = wolf” messages? Seems like such an anti-villa role that I can only imagine it being a wolf. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=214) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=216)