# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 224
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4462 "2011-09-02T19:21:51Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > I’ll gladly confirm for suburban if he’s a roleblocker or not, but no, I refuse to do it for a likely wolf named Normal Phase. I don’t nee you to confirm if I’m a Roleblocker or not, because I’m a Tracker. So why don’t you tell me who you targeted on Night 3, and I’ll tell you if you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4463 "2011-09-02T19:23:20Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Normal phase has already misrepresented my voting record re BlaM Bah, no I didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4464 "2011-09-02T19:23:22Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Ok. Here is something I can do that is pro town. I am going to be lynched. That’s fine, I really can’t keep up at this point and didn’t expect to live this long to start with. > > But, and this is important. I am town. > > So here is what I am going to do in an attempt to make my lynch meaningful. I am going to demand that every single player who votes for me 1) presents their own case for lynching me and 2) states clearly how me flipping town changes the game for them. This isn’t pro-town at all, what the fuck. You’re just fishing for information that the wolves can use. If you want to be pro-town before you die, you need to out all of your reads and tells and opinions and such so that we can decipher them once you die. If you’re a wolf we can discredit much of what you say, but if you flip villager we can use your information to actually help the village. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4465 "2011-09-02T19:23:23Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > This can’t be the case. It can’t. One of me or him have to be scum and I know my role. Better to come to grips now or you are going to be pissed at dusk. Assume you are wrong about me and we are both town (i believe you are probably town. I’d I’m wrong my hat is off to you) what then? Humor me as the walking dead. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4466 "2011-09-02T19:24:40Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Oh and u don’t plan to just lie down and accept the lynch based on poor reasoning. People voting for me dye to tortured logic should expect a fight. > > Right now episky is the only person who seems to have both a clear and valid (if incorrect) reason to vote for me. > > Normal phase has already misrepresented my voting record re BlaM and cq is following a ridiculous line if reasoning. Ed is on me because I didn’t like him but didn’t build a case (something I call being a good transperant townie but hr calls a smudge. IDLE THOUGHTS FAKECLAIMED YOU AS A VILLAGER AFTER EPISKEY CLAIMED A MESSAGE THAT YOU WERE A WOLF. This is my ridiculous line of reasoning? If you’re a villager idle was trying to save your ass for absolutely no reason. Which is not possible. You are a wolf. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4467 "2011-09-02T19:25:56Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Better to come to grips now or you are going to be pissed at dusk. Assume you are wrong about me and we are both town (i believe you are probably town. I’d I’m wrong my hat is off to you) what then? Humor me as the walking dead. IF somehow you flip town I fucking vomit everywhere and get insta vigged tonight or lynched tomorrow. It also means theres a second false messenger out there - my guess being someone who can flip someone elses? Idk how the hell that would work, though wasn’t Silman something that could say if that happened? I dont know. If you flipp villa I have put my tin foil hat (and wizard robe) on. I have literally no clue of what to make of it if its true. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4468 "2011-09-02T19:26:08Z")
I’m a seer with terrible luck, that’s why. My four investigations were Lightfoot (who I breadcrumbed, recall) peekercpa TexCat NAF1138. All of whom, except NAF, are dead. All of the responses _I_ got matched the death reveals. NAF’s power was given to me as “Mimic”. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4469 "2011-09-02T19:27:11Z")
Also, tonight NAF should target me, since I have proof that I’m a totally accurate seer–that way his mimic power will be known and known useful. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4470 "2011-09-02T19:27:21Z")
If I’m going to take anyone seriously who says they believe you (NAF) and Episkey are both town I need an explanation for Scuba’s results. Otherwise if either of you is lynched and flips town I will expect the other one dead-of-vig tonight. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4471 "2011-09-02T19:27:24Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > This isn’t pro-town at all, what the fuck. You’re just fishing for information that the wolves can use. > > If you want to be pro-town before you die, you need to out all of your reads and tells and opinions and such so that we can decipher them once you die. If you’re a wolf we can discredit much of what you say, but if you flip villager we can use your information to actually help the village. I have done this already. You are both not paying attention and kind of dumb (ok not dumb but suffering from insane confirmationbias and a total inability to understand that your way might not be the right way. So… dumb.) Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4472 "2011-09-02T19:28:09Z")
I haven’t done the math myself yet, but is it a given that between \*\*Episkey \*\*and \*\*NAF1138 \*\*at least one of them must be a Wolf? I know that I came to the conclusion three Days ago that this was probably the case, but since that point we got hung up with the \*\*sangaman \*\*and \*\*Idle \*\*lynches, and I haven’t looked closely back at the original issue. For the most part, all of the conversation Today has been “Episkey vs. NAF”, which worries me just a bit; I can almost hear the Wolves chuckling to themselves as the rest of us come to blows arguing about which of two Townies we need to lynch Today. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4473 "2011-09-02T19:28:57Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I’m a seer with terrible luck, that’s why. > My four investigations were > Lightfoot (who I breadcrumbed, recall) > peekercpa > TexCat > NAF1138. > > All of whom, except NAF, are dead. All of the responses _I_ got matched the death reveals. NAF’s power was given to me as “Mimic”. TexCat on night _three_? Explain. And I don’t recall the breadcrumb; show me. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4474 "2011-09-02T19:29:10Z")
Listen, NAF and episkey have to resolved. We absolutely can’t let them both live. The wolves will never ever nightkill one of them because the less information we have, the better it is for them. One of them is likely to be a wolf and if one of them gets nightkilled the other will get lynched. We have to gain this info for ourselves. We lynch NAF, who is a likely wolf anyways, and then we can semi clear Episkey. Episkey might be nk’ed anyways once we lynch NAF because of how good it’ll make Episkey look. After NAF flips wolf we then lynch normal phase, who is also a wolf. I’ll make a better case later if I haven’t been clear enough on him, but his reaction to the very minimal heat I put on him is just lolwolfy. He also doesn’t really want to lynch NAF and tries starting a wagon on me first chance he gets. Kill these two asap. If we kill NAF and normal, then me and Episkey will probably be nightkilled and resolved. If we don’t kill NAF and normal, wolves won’t nightkill me and episkey because it’ll incriminate NAF/Normal. We’re getting to the point where starting off with lynching NAF, were resolving 4 players and that much closer to a victory. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4475 "2011-09-02T19:30:08Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Wat? Episkey isn’t agreeing with me about shit. If he was this would be much easier. I never said you were agreeing. I said you both bemoaning you imminent demise. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4476 "2011-09-02T19:30:13Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I’m a seer with terrible luck, that’s why. > My four investigations were > Lightfoot (who I breadcrumbed, recall) > peekercpa > TexCat > NAF1138. > > All of whom, except NAF, are dead. All of the responses _I_ got matched the death reveals. NAF’s power was given to me as “Mimic”. what the fuck. This makes no sense. Not your claim, him being town. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4477 "2011-09-02T19:30:16Z")
Bah, I have to go for a while. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4478 "2011-09-02T19:30:28Z")
Jesus christ wolves are coming out of the wood work to save NAF. I’m completely willing to go NAF -\> Normal - \> Zeriel at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4479 "2011-09-02T19:31:00Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Bah, no I didn’t. Did to? You said that I backed off my vote on BlaM as the wagon gained steam. This is the opposite of true. I backed off my vote on BlaM when I was the only active player who was voting for him. The wagon didn’t gain steam until after you voted for him and then I rejoined the wagon when it looked like a good lynch because the case against IS (which I thought was stronger and more persuasive) wasn’t going anywhere. EVERY SINGLE DAY since that lynch I have been over this. Every Day someone says that this is not what happened and EVERY DAY I correct them and they go look at the posts and come back and say that I am right. Your turn Normal. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4480 "2011-09-02T19:31:30Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I never said you were agreeing. I said you both bemoaning you imminent demise. Oh, well yeah that’s true. I’m shipping two players who I think to be wolves very hard and I have an unclaimed role. For all wolves know I’m a seer. They can’t let me live very long if I’m correct about NAF and Normal. ---
**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4481 "2011-09-02T19:33:26Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Jesus christ wolves are coming out of the wood work to save NAF. I’m completely willing to go NAF -\> Normal - \> Zeriel at the moment. No this doesnt make sense man. How can they sacrifice two wolves - ONE OF WHICH ISNT ON THE RADAR - to save one that has to die? I dont know what to make of this. Could Bens message have been altered? Could we have a framer? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=223) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=225)