# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 225
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4482 "2011-09-02T19:33:45Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > I won too 😛 i did not win i also got to play for about no amount of time, not sure why i got nked either seemed pro wolf game but who knows ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4483 "2011-09-02T19:33:50Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > IDLE THOUGHTS FAKECLAIMED YOU AS A VILLAGER AFTER EPISKEY CLAIMED A MESSAGE THAT YOU WERE A WOLF. > > This is my ridiculous line of reasoning? If you’re a villager idle was trying to save your ass for absolutely no reason. Which is not possible. You are a wolf. Posting from my phone because the work filter is blocking this page due to all the cursewords. Idle’s reason for clearing ba townie NAF would be that: In the event NAF dies. Idle can claim he gave us a good peek. In he event idle dies we might all wonder about Naf’s real alignment. It’s wifom 101 ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4484 "2011-09-02T19:33:56Z")
And I legit think I’ll die soon one way another, I’ve polarized myself by pushing Naf and Normal so hard. If I’m right, I’m going to be pretty damn pro-village after finding and shipping two wolves to the grave, if wolves don’t kill me it’s unlikely I’ll be mislynched. If I’m wrong and I’ve spent this much effort only to result in killing villagers, the villager is likely to mislynch me and the wolves won’t need (or want to because I was wrong) kill me. Either way I can’t imagine me making it til end of game. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4485 "2011-09-02T19:35:06Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > TexCat on night _three_? Explain. Yes. If seer actions resolve before kills do, there’s no reason for this not to be a deal. I knew \*\*Lightfoot \*\*was a mason, after all, so I wanted to investigate one of the claimed masons to make sure they weren’t fake-claiming scum masons. > [@](#): > > And I don’t recall the breadcrumb; show me. Post 1125. > [@Zeriel](#): > > I love this fakepeek thing, it gives me the grins and giggles. If I am a seer, LightFoot is a Villager. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4486 "2011-09-02T19:35:29Z")
i think i like crackeds case on naf and even if he were a wolf he may offer up a wolf here gotta keep tunneling until you solve the game for me 😛 ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4487 "2011-09-02T19:36:51Z")
who haven’t claimed? zeriel and cracked i believe from this page? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4488 "2011-09-02T19:37:36Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Jesus christ wolves are coming out of the wood work to save NAF. I’m completely willing to go NAF -\> Normal - \> Zeriel at the moment. So either the wolves ae stupid and you’re brilliant Or You’re wrong ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4489 "2011-09-02T19:37:40Z")
Oh, I did a fakepeek after N0 too, but that actually WAS a fake–I got no results of any kind from my night 0 action. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4490 "2011-09-02T19:37:47Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Posting from my phone because the work filter is blocking this page due to all the cursewords. > > Idle’s reason for clearing ba townie NAF would be that: > > In the event NAF dies. Idle can claim he gave us a good peek. > > In he event idle dies we might all wonder about Naf’s real alignment. > > It’s wifom 101 Actually I can agree with this to a degree. I think given it was in direct response to the naf = wolf claim though, we can assume it was to protect naf. The other thing to consider is that he could have done the exact same thing with episkey but choose not to. Either way at this point we have to resolve NAF to find out. There’s no way we can let him live. Agree w/ the fact that zeriels claim right now doesn’t really make sense if their all wolves, unless they think NAF is a very good PR and they can’t let him die. If he flips wolf then zeriel is a non-true seer or a wolf depending on how powerful naf is. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4491 "2011-09-02T19:38:06Z")
oh zeriel did claim i got a result on her last night that she is a detective, no affiliation ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4492 "2011-09-02T19:38:16Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > IDLE THOUGHTS FAKECLAIMED YOU AS A VILLAGER AFTER EPISKEY CLAIMED A MESSAGE THAT YOU WERE A WOLF. > > This is my ridiculous line of reasoning? If you’re a villager idle was trying to save your ass for absolutely no reason. Which is not possible. You are a wolf. Yes, because it makes 0 sense for scum to make that move. Fuck scum wouldn’t do that. I am, if I do say so myself, possibly the most unpredictable scum player of the group who plays here. I am the one most likely to pull fucked up shit for the sake of pulling fucked up shit as scum. _ **I** _ wouldn’t have done that. I wouldn’t have endorsed such a move. I particularly wouldn’t have done it after scum had lost almost half their number (over half? They said 9 right?). Why? Because there is no chance of long term success. At some point one of the two players will get outed and then everything goes to shit. Listen, either me or Episky, _ **probably both** _, needs to die before endgame. There is no way around that. It would be better if we could be taken out at Night, but you can’t always get what you want. Town easily has this mislynch so I am ok with going down. But your case against me 1) assumes that scum are idiots 2) isn’t really supported by the facts of my game play. Go back and look at my play assuming I am town rather than scum, it makes significantly more sense and requires far fewer assumptions. Hell, Idle demonstrated PIS that he knows I am town, but no one is paying attention to that because people like you are showing shocking amounts of confirmation bias. You should be lynched on general principle after I flip town just because town doesn’t need players like you guiding the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4493 "2011-09-02T19:40:00Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I’m a seer with terrible luck, that’s why. > My four investigations were > Lightfoot (who I breadcrumbed, recall) > peekercpa > TexCat > NAF1138. > > All of whom, except NAF, are dead. All of the responses _I_ got matched the death reveals. NAF’s power was given to me as “Mimic”. Could you be naive? ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4494 "2011-09-02T19:40:22Z")
Naf, it’s not that either you and episkey need to die before end game, it’s that you need to die today. We just can’t let you live at this point. If you’re a villager what you need to now do is give us your reads and theories so we can use that information to make better decisions once you die. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4495 "2011-09-02T19:40:34Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Agree w/ the fact that zeriels claim right now doesn’t really make sense if their all wolves, unless they think NAF is a very good PR and they can’t let him die. If he flips wolf then zeriel is a non-true seer or a wolf depending on how powerful naf is. If he flips wolf, my seer powers are true or false randomly, or he’s a godfather. I have three results that exactly matched the subsequent death reveals for those people. > [@pwnsall](#): > > oh zeriel did claim > > i got a result on her last night that she is a detective, no affiliation If you’re talking about me, check the signature line. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4496 "2011-09-02T19:42:00Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Could you be naive? I suppose, if “naive” also gives exact word-for-word results on the roles. Have we had a non-true cop claimed or revealed yet? I know we’ve had a lot of propaganda roles and the round-robin mystics. ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4497 "2011-09-02T19:42:29Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Naf, it’s not that either you and episkey need to die before end game, it’s that you need to die today. We just can’t let you live at this point. > > If you’re a villager what you need to now do is give us your reads and theories so we can use that information to make better decisions once you die. i got a result last night that she s a detective so her wolf role is basically limited to wolf mystic seer at this point she wouldn’t control her peeks in that case and i think the other mystics claimed who they targeted ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4498 "2011-09-02T19:43:30Z")
apparently she is not a girl ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4499 "2011-09-02T19:43:54Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Naf, it’s not that either you and episkey need to die before end game, it’s that you need to die today. We just can’t let you live at this point. > > If you’re a villager what you need to now do is give us your reads and theories so we can use that information to make better decisions once you die. You have all my reads and theories prior to toDay, I haven’t decided how I think things have changed yet but you will get them like I always give them. You presented a fairly fucked up case against me and now that you have been called on it’s fucked upedness you are changing your tune. Anything to say for yourself? Assume I am town. Assume you know 100% I am town. What do you do? You personally. How do you bounce back from how badly you have screwed up here? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4500 "2011-09-02T19:45:59Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I suppose, if “naive” also gives exact word-for-word results on the roles. > > Have we had a non-true cop claimed or revealed yet? I know we’ve had a lot of propaganda roles and the round-robin mystics. I could see a naive get the result with villager switched in for wolf. Can’t you? Not saying you did. But most of our investigations have been fucked up I hate to say it But maybe pizza was rigt ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4501 "2011-09-02T19:47:48Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I could see a naive get the result with villager switched in for wolf. Can’t you? > > Not saying you did. But most of our investigations have been fucked up > I hate to say it But maybe pizza was rigt Nafcertainly does not need to die now. A zeriel flip can confirm him [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=224) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=226)