# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4502 "2011-09-02T19:48:21Z")

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I have no idea what to do anymore  
\*  
unvote\*

Seer claim as a wolf makes no sense, naf is villa.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4503 "2011-09-02T19:48:46Z")

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LightFoot 1 that thought she was a killer targeted Episkey last Night  
The reasoning was as follows  
In making the case against PCM, Episkey came up often.  
E Looked to become the lynch leader before Idle ‘blew up’  
If Town his results are worth more when he’s dead.  
And there has to be atleast one Scum on Idles list by my reasoning.  
As long as he is alive it will be a distraction anyway.

And with that LightFeet  
\*\* vote Episkey \*\*  
At this time

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4504 "2011-09-02T19:48:54Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
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> apparently she is not a girl

Gold.

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4505 "2011-09-02T19:49:08Z")

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so zeriel you got naf’s full role?

do you think it could be a wolf role?

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4506 "2011-09-02T19:49:57Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Nafcertainly does not need to die now. A zeriel flip can confirm him

I hope you’re not suggesting lynching the claimed detective when the wolf detective is already dead.

Zuriel is right. NAF is villa.  
I cant think of what to do now. Like, the only possible explanation now is that Bens message was tampered with somehow. Are framers common here?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4507 "2011-09-02T19:50:15Z")

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NETA and I missed a page and a half. What are you guys doin now?

I’ve got to catch up again

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4508 "2011-09-02T19:50:56Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
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> apparently she is not a girl

Dude. McHugeCockiel. 😃

> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I could see a naive get the result with villager switched in for wolf. Can’t you?

Maybe.

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> Not saying you did. But most of our investigations have been fucked up
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> I hate to say it But maybe pizza was rigt

Well, if he was, honestly, I won’t care because I don’t consider games with unannounced non-accurate cops to be Mafia. Until we have evidence that such a thing is in the game, I’m proceeding as though my results are genuine.

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**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4509 "2011-09-02T19:53:34Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> You have all my reads and theories prior to toDay, I haven’t decided how I think things have changed yet but you will get them like I always give them.
> 
> You presented a fairly fucked up case against me and now that you have been called on it’s fucked upedness you are changing your tune. Anything to say for yourself?
> 
> Assume I am town. Assume you know 100% I am town. What do you do? You personally. How do you bounce back from how badly you have screwed up here?

What are you even talking about? I’m not changing anything. I want you dead because I think you are a wolf. Then when you die I’m going to push normal as hard as I can because I also think he’s a wolf.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4510 "2011-09-02T19:57:25Z")

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> [@crackedquads](#):
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> What are you even talking about? I’m not changing anything. I want you dead because I think you are a wolf. Then when you die I’m going to push normal as hard as I can because I also think he’s a wolf.

**vote crackedquads**

You’re being intransigent, your theories are frankly bunk, and you’re maintaining a case on a semi-confirmed townie.

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The really annoying thing about where I am in this game is, until/unless I get a scum result, I can’t even rule out that I might somehow be naive.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4511 "2011-09-02T19:58:07Z")

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> [@crackedquads](#):
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> What are you even talking about? I’m not changing anything. I want you dead because I think you are a wolf. Then when you die I’m going to push normal as hard as I can because I also think he’s a wolf.

Sorry. I thought you were changing your reasoning for why you thought I was a wolf after I pointed out the flaws of your case. Why do I need to die today?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4512 "2011-09-02T20:01:35Z")

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I’ll admit to extreme confusion. My possible plan is to pursue whichever Lynch candidate refuses to reveal his targets or results. I think this means you, **crackedquads**.

> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Oh, I did a fakepeek after N0 too, but that actually WAS a fake–I got no results of any kind from my night 0 action.

Don’t fake peeks by real seers negate the concept of detecting fake vs. real peeking?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4513 "2011-09-02T20:08:44Z")

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**MODERATOR NOTE**

Askthepizzaguy’s Night Three action did not go through, because he was modkilled before his night action could be processed. In other words, Askthepizzaguy did not have a Night Three action.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4514 "2011-09-02T20:15:50Z")

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So we have another poisoner

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4515 "2011-09-02T20:18:15Z")

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I keep forgetting to make sure my sig line shows.  
If I could change my screen name I would for the remainder of this game.

It will make researching my statements tonsOfun this way

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4516 "2011-09-02T20:25:18Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Don’t fake peeks by real seers negate the concept of detecting fake vs. real peeking?

I am not totally sure why people are having a problem remembering that other players don’t necessarily know, even now, what their role does.

I don’t think it’s any kind of tell, but boy is it frustrating. I just had to PM Gad to make sure that scum started off in the same boat as town in this regard (they did.)

He didn’t know he was a cop, so he didn’t know fake peeking was stupid (other than the fact that fake peeking is kind of stupid.)

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4517 "2011-09-02T20:27:04Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’ll admit to extreme confusion. My possible plan is to pursue whichever Lynch candidate refuses to reveal his targets or results. I think this means you, **crackedquads**.
> 
> Don’t fake peeks by real seers negate the concept of detecting fake vs. real peeking?

I didn’t know I was a seer then. 😛

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4518 "2011-09-02T20:27:48Z")

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I’m posting from my phone so I don’t have my notes with me but wasn’t Inner Sticker the village detective? If so, it is possible that Zeriel’s results are not 100% accurate.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4519 "2011-09-02T20:28:24Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> He didn’t know he was a cop, so he didn’t know fake peeking was stupid (other than the fact that fake peeking is kind of stupid.)

In fairness, it did allow me to put out a big, blinking breadcrumb about myself early in the game without the scum even glancing at me, right after I got my first result.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4520 "2011-09-02T20:30:05Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
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> I’m posting from my phone so I don’t have my notes with me but wasn’t Inner Sticker the village detective? If so, it is possible that Zeriel’s results are not 100% accurate.

Stickler was a Beat Cop, which reads as “cop + roleblocker”.

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4521 "2011-09-02T20:31:32Z")

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zeriel who did you fakepeek n0

also do you think nafs role could be a wolf role

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