# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 237

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4722 "2011-09-05T21:13:27Z")

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I don’t think I’ve been mildly or vaguely accusatory.

In fact, mild and vaguely accusatory would describe your statements about me earlier in the game where you said I seemed Scummy but you couldn’t put any reasons forth.

That is a smudge.

On the other hand, I have question you, Episkey and crackedquads. I’ve directly stated what problems I have with your claims of actions. I’ve directly stated how I think each of you might be Scum. I’ve been very clear in my accusations.

You know this. You’re aware of it. And it appears as if you’re trying to create some sort of diversion.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4723 "2011-09-05T21:18:17Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve been mildly or vaguely accusatory.
> 
> In fact, mild and vaguely accusatory would describe your statements about me earlier in the game where you said I seemed Scummy but you couldn’t put any reasons forth.
> 
> That is a smudge.

No, that is a statement of suspicion which is what you are saying you are doing. You have not been saying that you think lynching me or Episky is a good idea directly, but you have subtly been pushing that agenda even over the agenda of the player you are actually voting for without ever coming out and saying that is what you want. The definition on the wiki is bad, your behavior here is a lot closer to what it is.

> [@](#):
>
> And it appears as if you’re trying to create some sort of diversion.

No I’m trying to decide if I am right about you being likely town. This sort of posting is what I was talking about when I said you were seeming scummy to me.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4724 "2011-09-05T21:33:11Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> No, that is a statement of suspicion which is what you are saying you are doing. You have not been saying that you think lynching me or Episky is a good idea directly, but you have subtly been pushing that agenda even over the agenda of the player you are actually voting for without ever coming out and saying that is what you want. The definition on the wiki is bad, your behavior here is a lot closer to what it is.
> 
> No I’m trying to decide if I am right about you being likely town. This sort of posting is what I was talking about when I said you were seeming scummy to me.

This is so wrong it’s actually humorous.

First, posting what you call ‘smudges’ is what you were talking about before I ever did it? really? No, I mean really?

Second, did you gloss over the vote I’ve had on you? Did you gloss over all the arguments I’ve made? Have you glossed over my question to Episkey? Have you ever seen me opposed to lynching you or Episkey? Can you point out where I’ve done that?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4725 "2011-09-05T21:39:34Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
>
> Have you ever seen me opposed to lynching you or Episkey? Can you point out where I’ve done that?

So you think lynching Episkey toDay is a good idea?

How about lynching me? You would be onboard with that?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4726 "2011-09-05T21:45:54Z")

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**UPDATED DAY FIVE VOTE COUNT**

Through #4724.

crackedquads (7): [del]septimus [4331][/del], Normal Phase [4396], Zeriel [4509], NAF1138 [4545], J.D. [4553], special ed [4554], Suburban Plankton [4658], Episkey [4672]  
Episkey (6): [del]Scuba\_Ben [4247][/del], Silver Jan [4252], Drain Bead [4303], LighterFeet [4502], [del]Scathach [4579][/del], Scuba\_Ben [4661], Scathach [4664], septimus [4711]  
NAF1138 (3): [del]Episkey [4261][/del], crackedquads [4324], [del]Scuba\_Ben [4334][/del], lilflower [4349], [del]special ed [4354][/del], bufftabby [4700]  
Normal Phase (1): [del]special ed [4359][/del], Giraffe [4547]  
pwnsall (0): [del]NAF1138 [4532][/del]

Please PM me with any corrections.

EOD in ~2.5 hours.

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4727 "2011-09-05T21:49:19Z")

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**crackedquads** revote

episkey claim seems much more believable, seeing as how cracked has claimed nothingish

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4728 "2011-09-05T21:50:42Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> So you think lynching Episkey toDay is a good idea?
> 
> How about lynching me? You would be onboard with that?

I find both of you suspicious. I’ve laid out many reasons. I’m not opposed to either of you being lynched, though I’d rather wait on you with Zeriel’s result. Hopefully we’ll find out if he’s lying or Naive soon enough.

Episkey:

1. The Scum result whisper given by Pizza
2. The inconsitency in where his whispered results have gone.
3. His certainty that the result Pizza got on him was his incorrect result.
4. His ‘oh no, the Scum are going to Night Kill me’ routine.  
NAF:
5. The Scum result whisper given to Pizza
6. The presence of a poisoned player aafter Pizza’s death coupled with NAF’s claimed ability to mimic other powers
7. The earlier smudges on me (which have just now added post hoc reasoning)

I think I’ve been pretty clear in my suspicions all game.

```auto

On an unrelated note, When did you learn what your power was?
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4729 "2011-09-05T21:58:25Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
>
> On an unrelated note, When did you learn what your power was?

Officially I haven’t. Like I said town knows everything I know.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4730 "2011-09-05T22:07:52Z")

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> [@pwnsall](#):
>
> **crackedquads** revote
> 
> episkey claim seems much more believable, seeing as how cracked has claimed nothingish

Sorry, missed it. Will update.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4731 "2011-09-05T22:08:53Z")

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**UPDATED DAY FIVE VOTE COUNT**

Through #4729.

crackedquads (8): [del]septimus [4331][/del], Normal Phase [4396], Zeriel [4509], NAF1138 [4545], J.D. [4553], special ed [4554], Suburban Plankton [4658], Episkey [4672], pwnsall [4726]  
Episkey (6): [del]Scuba\_Ben [4247][/del], Silver Jan [4252], Drain Bead [4303], LighterFeet [4502], [del]Scathach [4579][/del], Scuba\_Ben [4661], Scathach [4664], septimus [4711]  
NAF1138 (3): [del]Episkey [4261][/del], crackedquads [4324], [del]Scuba\_Ben [4334][/del], lilflower [4349], [del]special ed [4354][/del], bufftabby [4700]  
Normal Phase (1): [del]special ed [4359][/del], Giraffe [4547]  
pwnsall (0): [del]NAF1138 [4532][/del]

Please PM me with any corrections.

EOD in ~2 hours.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4732 "2011-09-05T22:25:43Z")

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Episkey targeted himself last Night because I targeted him.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4733 "2011-09-05T23:35:15Z")

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I am not liking this. I don’t see how there’s any reconciliation of Zeriel, Ben, and Episkey’s results that doesn’t end with Episkey being Scum.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4734 "2011-09-05T23:41:38Z")

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**MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT**

The day ends in TWENTY MINUTES.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4735 "2011-09-05T23:41:58Z")

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Unless I’m a naive cop, don’t forget. I’m not willing to rule that out.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4736 "2011-09-05T23:53:55Z")

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I’m sincerely hoping this is not a gastard game.

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**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4737 "2011-09-06T00:00:29Z")

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meh, cracked didn’t defend himself, seems to have given up, more scummy then not

possibly out of spite but whatever

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4738 "2011-09-06T00:00:57Z")

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[QUOTE=special ed;  
3. The earlier smudges on me (which have just now added post hoc /QUOTE]

I’m.still posting from my phone and running out of time. But let’s talk about this later.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4739 "2011-09-06T00:01:47Z")

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**IT IS NIGHT**

No more votes and such.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4740 "2011-09-06T00:02:48Z")

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**FINAL DAY FIVE VOTE COUNT**

crackedquads (8): [del]septimus [4331][/del], Normal Phase [4396], Zeriel [4509], NAF1138 [4545], J.D. [4553], special ed [4554], Suburban Plankton [4658], Episkey [4672], pwnsall [4726]  
Episkey (6): [del]Scuba\_Ben [4247][/del], Silver Jan [4252], Drain Bead [4303], LighterFeet [4502], [del]Scathach [4579][/del], Scuba\_Ben [4661], Scathach [4664], septimus [4711]  
NAF1138 (3): [del]Episkey [4261][/del], crackedquads [4324], [del]Scuba\_Ben [4334][/del], lilflower [4349], [del]special ed [4354][/del], bufftabby [4700]  
Normal Phase (1): [del]special ed [4359][/del], Giraffe [4547]  
pwnsall (0): [del]NAF1138 [4532][/del]

Ten minutes to PM me with any corrections.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4741 "2011-09-06T00:15:28Z")

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**DAY FIVE LYNCH RESULTS**

crackedquads has been lynched.

Pardon me, my mistake: nobody has been lynched.

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