# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4802 "2011-09-06T22:04:12Z")

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So lollllllllllllll at me surviving the lynch. A+ to whoever did that. Guess we can confirm day angels now. Gad was sure to specify that day angels weren’t excluded in his discussion with pwnsall(?) a couple days ago. I can’t imagine that whoever targeted me n4 knew they were an angel though bc I don’t recall in being any danger whatsoever that day.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4803 "2011-09-06T22:11:39Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Yeah, so?

So…

I want to know why **J.D.** felt it was so obvious that he could pop in, drop a vote with (almost) no comment, and then disappear again. He hasn’t seen fit to contribute very much to the game so far, and this vote seems like an effort aimed mainly at placing an ‘obvious’ vote so that he doesn’t need to take time to actually \*do \*anything.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4804 "2011-09-06T22:32:16Z")

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> [@Episkey](#):
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> excellent plan when any tracker with a brain is targeting me last night obv
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> :thumb:

we can hope

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4805 "2011-09-06T22:33:26Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> So…
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> I want to know why **J.D.** felt it was so obvious that he could pop in, drop a vote with (almost) no comment, and then disappear again. He hasn’t seen fit to contribute very much to the game so far, and this vote seems like an effort aimed mainly at placing an ‘obvious’ vote so that he doesn’t need to take time to actually \*do \*anything.

That’s a much more specific question that I’m not qualified to answer.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4806 "2011-09-06T22:38:03Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> That’s a much more specific question that I’m not qualified to answer.

Which is why I wasn’t asking you 🙂

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4807 "2011-09-06T22:47:40Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Which is why I wasn’t asking you 🙂

Well, it did appear that you were just asking why the vote was obvious.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4808 "2011-09-06T23:05:38Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Well, it did appear that you were just asking why the vote was obvious.

Well, I don’t mind you (or anyone else) answering, but I was looking for one opinion in particular.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4809 "2011-09-06T23:05:46Z")

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> [@Episkey](#):
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> I was roleblocked.
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> I cant fathom a town member would ever want to roleblock me when I give some form of investigation results

I was roleblocked also.

I infer from the overNight results that the bad guys have a Strongman remaining. Unless a known/probable Townie can provide a good reason for shooting pwnsall?

And it’s inanely obvious that Zeriel had an accurate read on NAF, barring a gastard Scum role. So I clear NAF.

Pending further review, **vote Episkey** :  
(Insert repetition of PizzaGuy’s two messages here.)  
3. We know now that Zeriel’s report supercedes PizzaGuy’s message.  
Tf. Either my message was about NAF and tampered with, my message was about Episkey and tampered with (both unlikely IMO ATM), or my message was about Episkey and accurate.

And I’ll have to review the case on crackedquads.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4810 "2011-09-06T23:08:59Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> I infer from the overNight results that the bad guys have a Strongman remaining. Unless a known/probable Townie can provide a good reason for shooting pwnsall?

There still may be a Redirector in play, so that could explain it as well.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4811 "2011-09-06T23:11:29Z")

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Suburban: Good point.

Now that I’ve caught up, I see **Drain Bead** had the same reasoning as I did. And probably a few others as well.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4812 "2011-09-06T23:15:30Z")

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> [@crackedquads](#):
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> So lollllllllllllll at me surviving the lynch. A+ to whoever did that. Guess we can confirm day angels now. Gad was sure to specify that day angels weren’t excluded in his discussion with pwnsall(?) a couple days ago. I can’t imagine that whoever targeted me n4 knew they were an angel though bc I don’t recall in being any danger whatsoever that day.

That’s all you have to say?

No comment on your lock on NAF as Scum?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4813 "2011-09-06T23:31:43Z")

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I don’t think the fact that cracked survived the lynch has any bearing on whether or not he’s Town, Scum, or Chia Bingo Master. It was almost certainly the result of someone using their power on him. And that person was almost certainly unsure of what their power was until cracked showed up alive. So the fact that someone used that power on cracked means little. Did anyone claim to target cracked Night before last?

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**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4814 "2011-09-06T23:42:41Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> That’s all you have to say?
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> No comment on your lock on NAF as Scum?

Naf is still alive isn’t he? His results could have been flipped by some mechanic, maybe the role reveal wasn’t complete, or most likely I was just wrong. I dropped my case after zeriel made his claim.

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**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4815 "2011-09-06T23:44:34Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> I don’t think the fact that cracked survived the lynch has any bearing on whether or not he’s Town, Scum, or Chia Bingo Master. It was almost certainly the result of someone using their power on him. And that person was almost certainly unsure of what their power was until cracked showed up alive. So the fact that someone used that power on cracked means little. Did anyone claim to target cracked Night before last?

iirc like 3 people targeted me n3, I don’t recall anyone claiming to have targeted me n4. Don’t know why they would claim as much though if they didn’t know their power yet. So if we have a list of people who haven’t made claims yet, there’s at least an angel among them. Careful though because wolves are prob more likely to not claim anything than villagers.

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**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4816 "2011-09-06T23:45:35Z")

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And if I wasn’t angeled I’m definitely the Chia Bingo Master.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4817 "2011-09-06T23:56:00Z")

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For a moment I parsed that as “… wasn’t angled.” But my visual processing is sometimes obtuse.

Otherwise, nothing to add at present.

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**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4818 "2011-09-07T00:36:54Z")

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I really don’t under fucking stand how if NAF is a villager I become the main wagon last night. It’s just retarded villaging. If you really believe zeriels claim then you need to lynch episkey instead of NAF, not me.

But then again that’s assuming episkey is a villager. If epi is a wolf I guess that would make sense.

**Episkey**

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4819 "2011-09-07T00:47:25Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
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> Unless he’s a scum who was protected by a scum buddy who has only been protecting scum who weren’t up for lynching.

which would make him vulnerable toDay. (can’t target the same person twice in a row)

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4820 "2011-09-07T01:08:04Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> which would make him vulnerable toDay. (can’t target the same person twice in a row)

But I guess I would wonder how said wolf would know what their power was for sure until getting a result from it, which didn’t happen until yesterDay.

I suppose they could have gotten an investigation result, but I know it wasn’t from **Idle** , seeing as he reported both me and **NAF** correctly in the thread. It would have to have been from the Scum Mystic, I guess.

Possible, but it seems like a longshot. We’d have to surmise 3 things. First, that the Day Angel is Scum. Second, that they knew what they were. And third, that they chose to protect **cracked** rather than someone who actually seemed to be in danger.

The wagon on **cracked** seemed to come out of absolute nowhere, didn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4821 "2011-09-07T01:14:46Z")

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BTW, I know now that my target was not the Scum or Town Roleblocker.

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