# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 242
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4822 "2011-09-07T01:17:45Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > But I guess I would wonder how said wolf would know what their power was for sure until getting a result from it, which didn’t happen until yesterDay. > > I suppose they could have gotten an investigation result, but I know it wasn’t from **Idle** , seeing as he reported both me and **NAF** correctly in the thread. It would have to have been from the Scum Mystic, I guess. > > Possible, but it seems like a longshot. We’d have to surmise 3 things. First, that the Day Angel is Scum. Second, that they knew what they were. And third, that they chose to protect **cracked** rather than someone who actually seemed to be in danger. > > The wagon on **cracked** seemed to come out of absolute nowhere, didn’t it? I don’t remember how it started I will try to peal back to it. and, yes, odds are against it (even to my confused self) but not completely impossible either. Just like this supposed power could be given to a Villager or a Wolf or a Neutral (which is possible) ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4823 "2011-09-07T01:44:52Z")
I see the \*\* Episkey \*\* wagon is cruising right along It does not appear my vote is needed there. \*\*crackedquads \*\* is getting as much heat for not dying in the lynch yesterDay (not sure at this point what to make of that.) I believe I shall return to a case that made sense to my former self.(which went mostly ignored) \*\* PCM \*\* and others ignored this [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14205359&postcount=4119](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14205359&postcount=4119) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14205372&postcount=4120](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14205372&postcount=4120) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14205392&postcount=4121](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14205392&postcount=4121) Nothing of substance has been posted since by \*\* PCM \*\* And I might add the origional author woke up dead shortly after? ---
**Author:** ![pwnsall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@pwnsall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwnsall)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4824 "2011-09-07T02:32:03Z")
_dead_ gg, gl yall are relatively nice folk _dead_ ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4825 "2011-09-07T03:09:11Z")
OoooooooOOOOOOooooo, damnit, go town. ---
**Author:** ![DonkTimesFour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@DonkTimesFour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonkTimesFour)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4826 "2011-09-07T03:38:09Z")
So CQ was day angeled… in my experience day angels are more likely to be scum powers, thus i have a feeling that the wolves day angeled CQ sorry for being afk - again ---
**Author:** ![DonkTimesFour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@DonkTimesFour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonkTimesFour)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4827 "2011-09-07T03:39:41Z")
i mean if the scum are day angeling CQ it must mean that they know he has some sort of important role, like vig, or detective **vote Crackedquads** ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4828 "2011-09-07T03:49:51Z")
> [@pwnsall](#): > > _dead_ > > gg, gl > > yall are relatively nice folk > > _dead_ What on earth is this? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4829 "2011-09-07T03:51:14Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > What on earth is this? Thriller? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4830 "2011-09-07T03:53:06Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Thriller? that clears everything up Really If it makes sense you you please share? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4831 "2011-09-07T03:55:23Z")
OK I get it Should have got all the way out of my nap before I posted I imagine. This game is confuse a cat all over the place ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4832 "2011-09-07T03:56:11Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > that clears everything up > Really > > If it makes sense you you please share? _does the limp-wristed zombie dance_ (pwnsall is dead you see) ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4833 "2011-09-07T04:35:03Z")
> [@DonkTimesFour](#): > > i mean if the scum are day angeling CQ it must mean that they know he has some sort of important role, like vig, or detective > > **vote Crackedquads** This is a pretty little theory of yours and all, and I really don’t mean to shit on it, but there’s almost no way a day angel would know their power yet. No one has survived a lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4834 "2011-09-07T04:37:39Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > This is a pretty little theory of yours and all, and I really don’t mean to shit on it, but there’s almost no way a day angel would know their power yet. No one has survived a lynch. Unless scum had a detective, right? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4835 "2011-09-07T04:44:48Z")
NETA: just in case the sarcasm didn’t come through, remember that Idle Thoughts was a scum Detective. In a game like this, I’d imagine scum would care more about learning their own powers than fishing in the Town pool, so it actually makes perfect sense for a scum Day angel to know their role. It also seems rather unlikely a Town Day angel would both know their role and cracked’s alignment, so I think he’s looking rather Wolfish right now. **vote crackedquads** ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4836 "2011-09-07T05:32:01Z")
I don’t get this, why would **Crackedquads** make such a big hooha on his case against **NAF** yesterday when, if\*\* NAF\*\* flipped Town then\*\* Cracked\*\* would definitely be lynched the next Day? It sounds more likely that\*\* Cracked\*\* is Town and really believed that he had found a scum. Now that NAF has been cleared by\*\* Zeriel\*\* I don’t really think there is a case against **Cracked**. I am more inclined to think that because **Zeriel** semi-cleared\*\* NAF\*\* yesterDay, that scum killed him last night and as most people were saying that either **NAF** or\*\* Episkey\*\* had to be scum and with\*\* NAF\*\* being semi-cleared, that a scum\*\* Episkey\*\* needed to get rid of\*\* Zeriel\*\* because scum realised that his results were accurate. I hope this makes sense. **Vote Episkey** ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4837 "2011-09-07T05:59:41Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > NETA: just in case the sarcasm didn’t come through, remember that Idle Thoughts was a scum Detective. In a game like this, I’d imagine scum would care more about learning their own powers than fishing in the Town pool, so it actually makes perfect sense for a scum Day angel to know their role. > > It also seems rather unlikely a Town Day angel would both know their role and cracked’s alignment, so I think he’s looking rather Wolfish right now. > > **vote crackedquads** I mean obviously it looks shitty for me when I survive a lynch. There’s zero chance I make it til end of game and that’s fine, but re wagoning me is again just as bad as it was yesterday. I was admittedly wrong about my NAF read, but given zeriel has flipped we need to vote episkey. We were pretty sure it was w/v yesterday and now that we have more information we need to act on it. I understand that if episkey is a wolf the wolves are going to try to divert this wagon. Obviously I’m a primo target given last nights shenanigans, but I’m not going to let you guys (wolves in general, not you per se) mislynch me here AGAIN. If you really want me out of this game then you guys will have to use your nk on me. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4838 "2011-09-07T06:06:40Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I don’t get this, why would **Crackedquads** make such a big hooha on his case against **NAF** yesterday when, if\*\* NAF\*\* flipped Town then\*\* Cracked\*\* would definitely be lynched the next Day? It sounds more likely that\*\* Cracked\*\* is Town and really believed that he had found a scum. Now that NAF has been cleared by\*\* Zeriel\*\* I don’t really think there is a case against **Cracked**. > > I am more inclined to think that because **Zeriel** semi-cleared\*\* NAF\*\* yesterDay, that scum killed him last night and as most people were saying that either **NAF** or\*\* Episkey\*\* had to be scum and with\*\* NAF\*\* being semi-cleared, that a scum\*\* Episkey\*\* needed to get rid of\*\* Zeriel\*\* because scum realised that his results were accurate. I hope this makes sense. > > **Vote Episkey** My opinion is and should be taken with a grain of salt but I get what you’re saying. Zeriel reveals his peek to help save NAF, the peek seems credible so the wolves have to kill him there. It spews NAF villager but it absolutely is worth it from the wolves perspective to get the seer. Naf is essentially lock cleared and he’ll probably end up being night killed also pretty soon. Now there’s bound to be a debate of whether or not killing zeriel is worth outing episkey as a wolf (if he is one), and the answer is absofuckinglutely. Even if they don’t know for certain that zeriel is a seer, letting him live another night and get another peek is going to be pretty damn damaging to the wolf team. They can’t risk more seer cleared villagers being alive or worse, a wolf being outed. I thought episkey seemed pretty villagery in his responses yesterday, but as I’ve noted like a week ago episkey is a very, very capable wolf. Despite me consistently viewing him with suspicion he’s definitely capable of still owning me there. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4839 "2011-09-07T06:11:06Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > I was roleblocked. > > I cant fathom a town member would ever want to roleblock me when I give some form of investigation results Because after zeriel claims seer and that naf = villager, you’re likely to be a wolf? Good job to whoever role blocked you if they are indeed a role blocker. FWIW if anyone isn’t sure of their role be careful trusting epi’s claim here, he may tried to be misleading villagers on purpose as he’s probably going to be the lynch today. > [@Episkey](#): > > To explain that further: > > “Oh, Episkey gives out potential roles. They could be backwards, they could be paranoid, who knows. But I don’t want another role potentially outed” > > IS NOT A VILLAGER THOUGHT PROCESS. Or you’re a wolf who lied about your role. Or you’re a wolf seer and lied about your accuracy. > [@Episkey](#): > > In other news, I have no fucking clue what Cracked not being lynched means. He wasn’t in danger really heading into yesterda, so I don’t think he could have been day angeled. Meh I expect better theories from you tbh. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4840 "2011-09-07T09:41:16Z")
True answers to the following questions would probably be more useful to Town than to Scum. 1. Who targeted **septimus** last Night? 2. **Normal Phase** , what kind of result did you get last Night? 3. Can anyone tell us more about **Precambrianmollusc** or his targets? Depending on answers, I may rethink my vote, but for now **Vote: Precambrianmollusc** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4841 "2011-09-07T11:09:22Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Unless scum had a detective, right? Scum’s detective accurately reported on NAF and I. That limits the number of tries that he would have had to investigate his own teammates. In fact, I think he would have had only one shot to do it. Impossible? No. But he used his first two investigations on Town. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=241) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=243)