# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 244
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4862 "2011-09-07T17:31:28Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > I’d like to hear this as well. > > I don’t believe a town member would want to roleblock someone that dishes out a whisper - even if it’s backwards since, well, we all know its backwards so no weight is added to it prior to me dying. I actually did target you last night because I thought you were Scum, I am not sure what to think now. I am still not sure if I am a roleblocker because not everybody I have targeted has been blocked but a couple have been. All I get at night is that I have no apparent result. I know you said that a Town member wouldn’t block you and I did target you but whether or not I am a roleblocker??? I haven’t a cooking clue. All I know for certain is, is that I am Town. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4863 "2011-09-07T17:36:39Z")
NETA: I wanted to say that\*\* Episkey\*\* has made me take a second look at things when he changed his own name for\*\* Crackedquads\*\* in MY post! If I had written that then it also makes sense, I think **Episkey** may be right about a gap in my logic. I don’t know what to do about that yet though 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4864 "2011-09-07T17:45:27Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Unless of course, crackedquads is Scum with Episkey, in which case, he might really want to lynch NAF to save both of them. > > **If Scum have a Day Angel, and Episkey is Scum, don’t you think odds are quite high that he’s unlynchable toDay?** You do have a point there but I seem to have cleared both of them, in my mind at least. Or have I??? Why would both of them target a semi-confirmed Town so strenuously though? To get rid of a semi-confirmed Town of course! **Unvote Episkey** **Vote Crackedquads** ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4865 "2011-09-07T17:46:47Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > True answers to the following questions would probably be more useful to Town than to Scum. > > 1. Who targeted **septimus** last Night? > 2. **Normal Phase** , what kind of result did you get last Night? > 3. Can anyone tell us more about **Precambrianmollusc** or his targets? > > Depending on answers, I may rethink my vote, but for now > > **Vote: Precambrianmollusc** What else might be useful to town is if \*\*septimus \*\*gave out some information, instead of simply asking over and over for others to to do. How is it going to benefit ‘the Town’ to know who targeted you? At this point, that would seem to benefit only you, since the rest of us know absolutely nothing about you. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4866 "2011-09-07T17:47:48Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > BTW, I know now that my target was not the Scum or Town Roleblocker. Can you elaborate on this? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4867 "2011-09-07T18:03:07Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I actually did target you last night because I thought you were Scum, I am not sure what to think now. I am still not sure if I am a roleblocker because not everybody I have targeted has been blocked but a couple have been. All I get at night is that I have no apparent result. > > I know you said that a Town member wouldn’t block you and I did target you but whether or not I am a roleblocker??? I haven’t a cooking clue. All I know for certain is, is that I am Town. Why did you target him? You don’t seem quite sure of your role so what were you expecting to happen? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4868 "2011-09-07T18:09:59Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Can you elaborate on this? Easy. Two people were claiming to be role blocked. Neither of those two people were my target. If my target was the role blocker, then he or she would have been the one blocked, due to self-targeting. Ergo, my target (shooting into the unknowns last Night) was not one of those two roles. Still waiting to hear what my target might report before coming out with who it was. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4869 "2011-09-07T18:28:44Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Easy. Two people were claiming to be role blocked. Neither of those two people were my target. If my target was the role blocker, then he or she would have been the one blocked, due to self-targeting. Ergo, my target (shooting into the unknowns last Night) was not one of those two roles. > > Still waiting to hear what my target might report before coming out with who it was. got it. thanks ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4870 "2011-09-07T18:31:19Z")
Regarding **Episkey** : Night 1: Ben targeted gnarlycharlie, but was reflected back onto himself (by Drain Bead). He was told that Silver Jan is Town Episkey targeted Silver Jan. Jan was told that gnarly is Scum (FALSE) Night 2: Ben targeted Giraffe and Askthepizzaguy (having been doubled by Ed). Giraffe was told that pwnsall was Town (TRUE) and Pizza was told that Episkey and NAF were Scum. Episkey targeted Pizza. Pizza was told that Episkey and NAF were Scum. Night 3: Ben targeted himself. he was told that Weedy is town (TRUE). Episkey targeted gnarly. gnarly was killed, so we don’t know what he would have been told. Night 4: Ben targeted Drain Bead. Drain was told that Ed is Town. Episkey targeted pwnsall, but Drain redirected him to himself. He was told that he is Scum. Ben has been responsible for true results on Nights 2 and 3. Episkey has been responsible for a false result on Night 1. If we presume that the messages sent to Pizza on Night 2 came from Ben and Episkey, then Ben cannot be a Naive Cop, since we generated a ‘Scum’ result. Therefore he must be a True Cop. In that case, he must be responsible for the Episkey result, since we know NAF is Town (per Zeriel). That mans that Episkey is Scum. I suppose Zeriel’s information concerning NAF could be inaccurate, but this seems unlikely. He told us that his first three responses matched the death reveals, so there’s no reason to believe things would be different in NAF’s case. It is possible that he was redirected and happened to wind up investigating someone else, who just happened to be the role that has been claimed by NAF, but there are too many ‘just happeneds’ in that sentence. I just don’t see a reasonable scenario where Episkey is Town here. Now, whether or not we should try to lynch him Today and risk him being protected by a Scum Day-Angel…that’s another issue. I’ll address that in another post ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4871 "2011-09-07T18:44:46Z")
Guys want to have some fun? I know my role. First person to correctly guess it, wins a prize! ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4872 "2011-09-07T18:46:54Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Guys want to have some fun? > > I know my role. > > First person to correctly guess it, wins a prize! How thrilling for us. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4873 "2011-09-07T18:46:57Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Guys want to have some fun? > > I know my role. > > First person to correctly guess it, wins a prize! As far as I know, you’ve only revealed one target (me) and I wasn’t blocked, killed or redirected so . . . I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4874 "2011-09-07T18:50:18Z")
The quicker I get a correct answer the better the prize will be. I’ll eventually drop hints about it. LDO I’ve lied about who I’ve targeted, cus I’m a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4875 "2011-09-07T18:56:09Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > The quicker I get a correct answer the better the prize will be. I’ll eventually drop hints about it. LDO I’ve lied about who I’ve targeted, > cus I’m a liar. \*\*Unvote Episkey Vote crackedquads \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4876 "2011-09-07T19:00:41Z")
The pro-Town thing to do would be to tell us. You’re certain to die toDay if you don’t. If you’re Town, we could use the accurate info. If you are Scum, which is looking more and more likely, then we can disregard what you say once you’re dead. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4877 "2011-09-07T19:03:20Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > LDO I’ve lied about who I’ve targeted, cus I’m a liar. LDO??? If my notes are correct, the only person you’ve told us you targeted was **lilflower** , on Night 3, and that was not a lie, because I saw you there. You picked a lot of votes Yesterday because you promised information and then refused to deliver, you pushed your theories without providing any evidence to back them up, you refused to give us any information even after your lynch was inevitable (as far as we knew)…you just generally played really Scummy. Today, you are continuing that trend. It’s almost as if you \*want \*us to try to lynch you again. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4878 "2011-09-07T19:06:04Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > The quicker I get a correct answer the better the prize will be. I’ll eventually drop hints about it. LDO I’ve lied about who I’ve targeted, cus I’m a liar. **vote crackedquads** Lynch all liars. You’ll have to do some serious explaining (and convincing) as to why you, as town, would lie to us. Otherwise, my vote will stay. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4879 "2011-09-07T19:07:06Z")
Also, your little guessing game is annoying and distracting. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4880 "2011-09-07T19:09:12Z")
I’ve got it, you’re a Jester. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4881 "2011-09-07T19:13:35Z")
Oh no, I didn’t lie about lilflower. I did target him/her n3(?) and nothing happened. I lied about knowing my role. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=243) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=245)