# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 248
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4942 "2011-09-07T22:45:22Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Obv anything I say should be viewed with skepticism, but here’s how this is going to go down from my pov: > > I just need to survive til the end of the game. I have a certain number of lives to help me do this, and I can also vig whoever I want. I can be roleblocked though, and my targets can be angeled. I won’t use my power anymore if I’m left alone. For every day the village tries to lynch me, I’ll kill vig one person each night who was voting for me. If the wolves try to nightkill me, I’ll vig my biggest wolf read that night. I am told everytime an attempt on my life is made. > > That’s about it for now. Yu need to survive until EndGame and you cannot be lynched or NightKilled? That should be a relatively easy task then. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4943 "2011-09-07T22:51:29Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > While we all ruminate over how much, if any, of **crackedquads** ’ story to believe, let me redirect your attention back to \*\*Episkey \*\*for a moment. Setting aside for a moment the Day Angel issue, can anyone see any reason why Episkey should not be lynched? > > My case on him was back in [Post 4869](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14228973&postcount=4869). Is there any flaw in the argument that allows for him to be Town? The Day Angel issue is enough. crackedquads has all but claimed Scum and is using any effort to try to get the lynch off of him. If it did, it would likely fall to Episkey, who is probably angeled toDay. Please, let’s kill cracked toDay and Episkey toMorrow. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4944 "2011-09-07T22:53:13Z")
**Vote: crackedquads** ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4945 "2011-09-07T23:32:47Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > At the start of the game, before it began. I was told I was a neutral, I was told my win condition, I was told I was tough, but I was not told my power just like everyone else wasn’t. I’ve been thinking this over and I don’t know why Gad would give you any more details than your alignment and your win condition, like everyone else. Telling you that you are “tough” seems like a little too much information for a game where our roles are supposed to be a mystery. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4946 "2011-09-07T23:37:27Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > I’ve been thinking this over and I don’t know why Gad would give you any more details than your alignment and your win condition, like everyone else. Telling you that you are “tough” seems like a little too much information for a game where our roles are supposed to be a mystery. Hmm, could it be because he’s Scum and he’s lying? Please this ynch is about as easy as it gets people. he’s gone from the ‘I know the Scum (he was wrong) and Scum know I know so I’m a goner soon. Poor me.’ To, ‘Yeah, I’m an invincible 3rd party killer. You’d better not even try to kill me.’ ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4947 "2011-09-07T23:42:10Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Hmm, could it be because he’s Scum and he’s lying? > > Please this ynch is about as easy as it gets people. > > he’s gone from the > > ‘I know the Scum (he was wrong) and Scum know I know so I’m a goner soon. Poor me.’ > > To, ‘Yeah, I’m an invincible 3rd party killer. You’d better not even try to kill me.’ I’m pretty sure he’s lying but I like to give people a chance to dig themselves into a bigger hole. What I’m not so sure about is if he’s scum. Why would the scum have let him get lynched yesterDay? Did they know he would survive? If not, is Episkey scum and has a power the scum want? Regardless, I think CQ needs to be lynched. I don’t believe he will survive. He’s a killer who does not care about killing town. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4948 "2011-09-08T00:07:01Z")
**Vote: crackedquads** Le sigh. I have much to say but no time. I am good with this lynch at this point in time. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4949 "2011-09-08T00:38:36Z")
I’m catching up now. \*\* A vote count would greatly help in that \*\* Sick as a dog my brian is scrambled and I got to work today anyway. - \*\* CG \*\* Somehow survives a lynch - a Day angel is suggesed - If we have a day angel that is Scum then if \*\* Epeskie \*\* is Scum he is likely angeled toDay so if we lynch him we get another no lynch and less information. _(If she drowns she was good folk -if she floats she’s a witch and we burn her-syndrome)_ \*\*\* CQ \*\* claims to be a neutral Vig with some extra lives. ergo Day angel idea would be shelved(but e keeps killing Town- even players e admits e thought were Town) (with that record is e trying to get Scum to try to keep him alive?) \*If \*\* CQ \*\* has extra lives left why would e claim? - I can’t wrap my head around \*\* CQ \*\* being a “good guy” with any of these points. - There are no other candidates for the lynch at this time and I don’t see that changing. We have played this roundabout for 2 Days now and there are Scum out there. (I still like the case on \*\* PCM \*\* but no one is even listening while we have this dog and pony show on the table. It appears that all the current voters are taking a chance that C has no lives left or E isn’t angeled. (If C is sharing any truth there may not even be a Day angel) no lynch= no new info this Day. bottom line we need both of them resolved as soon as possible as near as I can see? Have I caught the high points? - thinking out loud and I think I’ve cirled myself into a round corner = I may need a hot toddy and a nap\* ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4950 "2011-09-08T01:25:48Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > True answers to the following questions would probably be more useful to Town than to Scum. > > 1. Who targeted **septimus** last Night? > 2. **Normal Phase** , what kind of result did you get last Night? > 3. Can anyone tell us more about **Precambrianmollusc** or his targets? > > Depending on answers, I may rethink my vote, but for now > > **Vote: Precambrianmollusc** You can of course look at the case I made as far as claims I see [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14177938#post14177938](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14177938#post14177938) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14178837#post14178837](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14178837#post14178837) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14183537#post14183537](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14183537#post14183537) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14196294#post14196294](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14196294#post14196294) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14197285#post14197285](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14197285#post14197285) I’m not recalling responses to them at this time ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4951 "2011-09-08T01:36:05Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > CQ could be gnarly’s killer and be lying about night three because killing a mason doesn’t look too good, but that doesn’t explain Inner Stickler. Huh? Do you realize I don’t care at all if I would have shot the mason? Zero. The chaos is good for my role because it ensures I would have survived later into the game. The masons aren’t exactly good for me because the more information they share, the closer I get to being outed by them. I don’t care at all that a mason was shot, but it wasn’t me who shot him. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4952 "2011-09-08T01:47:36Z")
You guys are being dumb. Obviously I’m not pro-town. I’m pro-myself. Yes, I’ve shot 3 villagers, boo hoo. I’ve tried shooting a likely wolf but it failed, probably because that person is a wolf and was being angeled. That person was lilflower. By all means try again today, but I will be picking a random person from my voters and I will target them. Also, apparently I do have to select a target or it my shot gets randomized, so I can let a random player pick my target for each day that I’m still alive, how’s that sound? The only reason I tell you guys at all that I have extra lives is because if you waste your lynch on me for multiple days, then this game will only take longer for me to achieve my goal (to survive til the end). A couple of failed lynches and that’s already like 10 irl days and I’m just going to loose my mind if I have to play this game for that long. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4953 "2011-09-08T01:50:36Z")
Also for the seers out there, I suspect that I am unpeekable. Meaning if you target me you prob will get something along the lines of “no result” ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4954 "2011-09-08T02:22:19Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Also for the seers out there, I suspect that I am unpeekable. Meaning if you target me you prob will get something along the lines of “no result” Any particular reason you believe this? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4955 "2011-09-08T02:43:47Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > You guys are being dumb. Obviously I’m not pro-town. I’m pro-myself. Yes, I’ve shot 3 villagers, boo hoo. I’ve tried shooting a likely wolf but it failed, probably because that person is a wolf and was being angeled. That person was lilflower. > > By all means try again today, but I will be picking a random person from my voters and I will target them. This might be the most hilariously stupid scum-in-the-noose defense I’ve ever seen. Idle’s Traitor ploy had almost as low a chance of success, but at least it was semi-plausible. This is just dumb. You’re not a neutral Terminator with a million lives, you’re a Wolf who got Day Angeled by another Wolf, hopefully because you have a powerful role. Please enjoy dying, buh bye. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4956 "2011-09-08T02:44:45Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Any particular reason you believe this? A couple of people who are likely to be seers or have since stated as much have targeted me and gotten no results. Pwnsall targeted me and claimed he got no results for instance. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4957 "2011-09-08T02:46:34Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > This might be the most hilariously stupid scum-in-the-noose defense I’ve ever seen. Idle’s Traitor ploy had almost as low a chance of success, but at least it was semi-plausible. This is just dumb. You’re not a neutral Terminator with a million lives, you’re a Wolf who got Day Angeled by another Wolf, hopefully because you have a powerful role. Please enjoy dying, buh bye. You’re an idiot. I’m not on your team and you know this. I thought perhaps I was going to be the one n0 person who got to use their ability because I was a neutral, but I got no results and NAF has claimed it was him. Lucky you though, because you were my n0 target. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4958 "2011-09-08T02:48:01Z")
For when I flip non-wolf: Lilflower and Giraffe are two of my wolf leans. I’m basically just going to help out whichever side is pissing me off the least, so keep it up giraffe. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4959 "2011-09-08T02:49:26Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > A couple of people who are likely to be seers or have since stated as much have targeted me and gotten no results. Pwnsall targeted me and claimed he got no results for instance. And pwnsall was the headhunter, so he should have gotten my role results regardless of my alignment. If he can’t even get my role I don’t think rando seers can. You guys are free to try on me tonight but I’m almost positive you’ll get no results. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4960 "2011-09-08T02:52:28Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Alright I’m in finally. I’m reading through right now but have a quick question, are you dope guys purposely bolding all the names of players you reference? I keep thinking you’re voting eachother by bolding (which is standard way of casting on the other board). > > Also I just spent 5 minutes looking for a multi-quote button that I couldn’t find and now I notice it because I wasn’t logged in before ☹ > > A couple things though if they haven’t been pointed out past page 3: > > The OP states that there was one night zero action, just one. I doubt that this was done by random so there’s likely some sort of really strong PR out there (which hopefully isn’t a wolf). In any case it doesn’t look like the n0 action was a vigilante, because no one is dead yet. There was also roles in the 2p2 game like poisoner, so if someone has been afflicted and hasn’t claimed itt they probably aren’t a villager imo. This was my first post in the game. There’s a reason why I wanted to talk about the n0 action and vigs. I thought I was the vig and that mine should have worked n0 as the neutral. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/4961 "2011-09-08T03:21:38Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > For when I flip non-wolf: > > Lilflower and Giraffe are two of my wolf leans. > > I’m basically just going to help out whichever side is pissing me off the least, so keep it up giraffe. If you survive the lynch again, I’d be honored if you’d use your magic invincible killing power on me first. Otherwise, I’ll just giggle while you dangle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=247) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=249)