# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 253
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5042 "2011-09-08T18:44:15Z")
I’d also like to ask people why they think Drain Bead is lean villager. Idle Thoughts (scum detective) claimed to have been PM’d DB’s role. I don’t think anyone else has claimed to have received a full role for another player in a PM. Isn’t it possible that Idle investigated DrainBead as a fellow scum - found out the role, but claimed that it was PM’d to maintain distance if DrainBead was lynched and flipped scum. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5043 "2011-09-08T18:45:16Z")
Nice list, lilflower! On the next version, please include my N2 and N3 targets. N2, I targeted Giraffe and PizzaGuy. Your list includes their reported messages. N3, I self-targeted. Your list includes my reported message. Also, correction to my N1. I targeted gnarlycharlie, but Drain Bead’s action redirected me onto myself. So that should appear: Scuba Ben targeted gnarlycharlie (redirected to self) What really worries me from this list is CQ’s results. AOP: And I know it’s been said before. N1 – “didn’t feel like using his power.” N2 – killed Townie (Dancecat) N3 – targeted lilflower, but didn’t succeed N4 – killed Townie (LightFoot v1) N5 – killed Townie (pwnsall) CQ, please convince me you have not thrown your lot in with the Wolves. Anybody else, someone either blocked CQ or protected ed on N1. I’m curious what might have happened. Hmm. Jan (presumed Roleblocker) targeted ed. ed (presumed Power Booster) targeted me. ed’s power went through, boosting my power for N2. We don’t know whether ed’s boost takes effect before Jan’s roleblock, or whether the roleblock was snuffed. AOP @ CQ: My present list of top suspects as requested: You Episkey I don’t have any other strong anti-Town reads. But if you’d like to shoot someone other than yourself or Episkey, I suggest shooting the lurkers per my previous posts. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5044 "2011-09-08T18:47:05Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > I’d also like to ask people why they think Drain Bead is lean villager. > > Idle Thoughts (scum detective) claimed to have been PM’d DB’s role. I don’t think anyone else has claimed to have received a full role for another player in a PM. > > Isn’t it possible that Idle investigated DrainBead as a fellow scum - found out the role, but claimed that it was PM’d to maintain distance if DrainBead was lynched and flipped scum. I think I had worked out before Idle’s semi-claim that DB is probably Town based on her participation in the case against me on D2. I found it unlikely (but not impossible) that a bandwagon started by Scum would be joined by more Scum so early in the effort. But this doesn’t hard-clear her. Meanwhile, would someone please post end-of-Day vote reports with convenient color coding? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5045 "2011-09-08T18:51:36Z")
@ \*\* lilflower \*\* On N3 LightFoot v1 reported a warm glow as well ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5046 "2011-09-08T18:52:55Z")
And I appologize for not being more pro-town, but I’m not actually a villager so I don’t know why you would expect me to be that helpful. Me outting myself instead of just posting lolcats is pretty helpful in itself, you guys have just solved 3 kills that you couldn’t explain previously. And yes, I could just be vigging wolves, but if I do that they’re going to try to kill me dead. My goal is simply to SURVIVE. I want to be in the middle, I want to toe the line. I don’t really want to piss anyone off because then I’ll get killed. The only reasons I’m claiming here is to possibly keep myself alive, to possibly give the village some useful information because thus far I’ve admittedly been pretty bad for the villagers. I have tried to counteract my village kills with wolf kills (the goal was to go 2 vilage/1 wolf/2 village/ 1 wolf) but after killing 2 villagers, my wolf kill failed (lilflower was being night angeled), and then the village tries to lynch me when I was legitimately trying to help so I raged and revenge killed pwnsall because he was a lolobv villager voting for me. Me being MIA at the end of yesterday was not me trying to hide, If I’m in thread that day I just try my hardest to then get episkey lynched so I stay hidden. Unfortunately I was at work during eod so I couldn’t do that, so I fucked up and to a degree helped out myself. Lame. Cliffs: I just want to not be fucked with, let me achieve my goal and leave game victoriously imo. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5047 "2011-09-08T18:54:33Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > AOP @ CQ: My present list of top suspects as requested: > You > Episkey > > I don’t have any other strong anti-Town reads. But if you’d like to shoot someone other than yourself or Episkey, I suggest shooting the lurkers per my previous posts. Hey you, read my post up above, particularly the red part. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5048 "2011-09-08T18:55:57Z")
Unless you’re saying you have no other potential targets which is kind of lame. Actually I think everyone can agree the UTR’s aren’t exactly great for the game, so I can just vig off the person with the least # of posts who is still alive if that works. You guys realize you can also just roleblock me and no one at all will die. It doesn’t really matter to me and that would actually be better than me doing more harm to either side. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5049 "2011-09-08T18:56:54Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Has any trackers claimed to have targeted me? I would suspect they would get no result also, but if not they should be able to verify my targets. Yes, I targeted you on Night 3 and saw you visit **lilflower**. So you’re not invisible. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5050 "2011-09-08T18:56:58Z")
Have any roleblockers died yet? Why don’t the village and wolf roleblocker just block me up tonight. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5051 "2011-09-08T18:58:03Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Yes, I targeted you on Night 3 and saw you visit **lilflower**. So you’re not invisible. **I said I targeted lilflower and said that she was being angeled.** Suburban Plankton can confirm. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5052 "2011-09-08T19:03:12Z")
CORRECTED UPDATED LIST OF CLAIMS Please let me know if I got anything wrong. **Night 0** \*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*targets lilflower NAF targets \*\*peeker **(successful; has peeker’s power on Night 1) Normal Phase targets Drain Bead Mykbot/DuckburgDK targets himself Suburban Plankton targets** Krayz \*\* Giraffe targets Normal Phase Episkey targets **Dancecat** \*\*Idle \*\*targets Suburban Plankton [post 3721] pwnsall targets **TexCat** bufftabby got no result (did not reveal target) Scathach targets septimus **Night 1** Ed targets Scuba Ben Drain Bead targets Scuba Ben Scuba Ben gets two targets on Night 2 Scuba Ben gets message that Jan is villager (reflected onto himself by Drain Bead) Giraffe targets \*\*peeker \*\* Episkey targets Jan (confirmed by SP) Silver Jan targets Ed \*\*Idle \*\*targets NAF [post 3721] \*\*Idle \*\*gets message that NAF is village mimic [post 3721] \*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*targets **Mahaloth** \*\*Mahaloth \*\*is poisoned and shot Scathach targets **Dancecat** \*\*Idle \*\*gets message that \*\*Dancecat \*\*is villager Scuba Ben targets **gnarlycharlie** \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*feels protected Episkey targets Jan Silver Jan gets message that \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*is wolf \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*targets **Texcat** \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*and \*\*Texcat \*\*discover they are village masons \*\*BlasterMaster \*\*targets Giraffe Giraffe gets message that \*\*BlasterMaster \*\*is villager Weedy gets message that \*\*Texcat \*\*is Villager and mason NAF targets Ed (and has his power for Night 2) **Lightfoot I** targets \*\*silman \*_rec’d “No apparent result” except he woke up dead_ PCM watches Episkey (Suburban Plankton visited Episkey) SP tracks Episkey who visited Silver Jan bufftabby got no result (did not reveal target but says it was not septimus) NAF feels protected \*\*Idle \*\*feels safe septimus enjoyed kindness Ed got no result SisterCoyote/JD got no result (do not know target) \*\*pwnsall \*\*is roleblocked Scathach targets **Dancecat** \*\*Zeriel \*\*targets **Lightfoot I** crackedquads targets Ed (“didn’t feel like using his power”) septimus targets bufftabby **Night 2** AskthePizzaGuy targets **brewha** \*\*brewha \*\*is poisoned \*\*Idle \*\*targets Jan \*\*Idle \*\*targets **AskthePizzaGuy** PCM targets SP (no one visited SP) Drain Bead targets **gnarlycharlie** SP tracks **Lightfoot I** who went in one direction but then turned towards **peeker** Giraffe targets **AskthePizzaGuy** Episkey targets **AskthePizzaGuy** Ed targets buff (random) Silver Jan target **Idle** \*\*Idle \*\*is roleblocked Scathach targets Ed Special Ed feels healthy Special Ed gets a complete role PM with power outlined NAF (mimic) targets himself (with Ed’s power) NAF gets two targets on Night 3 bufftabby targets herself bufftabby felt a warm glow Episkey targets **AskthePizzaGuy** \*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*gets message that NAF is a wolf \*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*gets message that Episkey is a wolf PCM gets a message that he is the apothecary _[but doesn’t believe it]_ Giraffe gets a message that \*\*pwnsall \*\*is town **Lightfoot I** targeted crackedquads “No apparent result” still alive \* Donkx4 gets a message that \*\*Dancecat \*\*is a villager JD was redirected \*\*Idle \*\*gets message that Drain Bead is village reflector [post 3721] \*\*pwnsall \*\*targets buff \*\*pwnsall \*\*gets “successful” response regarding Night action Normal Phase targets **Idle Thoughts** Scathach targets Ed \*\*Zeriel \*\*targets **peeker** crackedquads targets \*\*Dancecat \*\*(Dancecat dies) Scuba Ben targets **AskthePizzaGuy** Scuba Ben targets Giraffe **Night 3** **Lightfoot I** targets \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*“No Apparent Result “ except he was shot \* Jan targets **Lightfoot I** \*\*Idle \*\*targets himself [post 3721] \*\*Idle \*\*targets Episkey PCM targets \*\*pwsnall \*\* PCM gets results on septimus (no one visited septimus) Drain Bead targets herself Drain Bead has two targets Night 4 Giraffe targets Ed Scuba Ben gets a message that \*\*Weedy \*\*is a villager \*\*Idle \*\*feels healthy Suburban Plankton tracks crackedquads (CQ visited lilflower) NAF (as Ed) targets Normal Phase NAF (as Ed) targets lilflower Normal Phase targets crackedquads Scathach targets **Idle Thoughts** \*\*Zeriel \*\*targets **TexCat** Episkey targets **gnarlycharlie** Episkey gets a message that \*\*pwnsall \*\*is scum crackedquads targets lilflower (lilflower does not die) septimus targets PCM Scuba Ben targets himself **Lightfoot I** feels warm glow **Night 4** \*\*Lightfoot I \*\* targets Episkey Scuba Ben targets Drain Bead PCM targets crackedquads (no one visited CQ) Drain Bead targets Episkey Drain Bead targets **Lightfoot I** Drain Bead feels safe Drain Bead gets a message that Ed is town NAF (as lilflower and Normal Phase?) targets **Lightfoot I** Normal Phase gets a role PM for a roleblocker Giraffe targets himself \*\*Zeriel \*\*targets NAF (says NAF is town) Episkey targets **pwnsall** Episkey gets a message the Episkey is scum Jan reports “no apparent result” Ed is roleblocked \*\*pwnsall \*\*is “successful” on **Zeriel** crackedquads targets **Lightfoot I** (Lightfoot I dies) **Night 5** Scuba Ben is roleblocked Drain Bead is cured Drain Bead targets Normal Phase Scathach targets Drain Bead Giraffe targets Drain Bead Episkey is roleblocked septimus receives a role PM crackedquads targets \*\*pwnsall \*\*(pwnsall dies) ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5053 "2011-09-08T19:07:56Z")
Lilflower stop posting lists trying to look like a villager and tell me why you’re not a wolf. Cus I know you areeeeeee. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5054 "2011-09-08T19:09:23Z")
Lilflower how did you survive my super amazing vigilante shot on n3? Cus you definitely were not villagery enough at all for a village angel to target you, I shot at you because you were howling. And guess what? No village angels have claimed to protect you. Wanna know why? The angel who targeted you is a bad guy. Just like you. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5055 "2011-09-08T19:10:41Z")
You guys can POE it down to the likely angel. Most of you all have claimed something but there’s definitely a few who had remained mum thus far. There isn’t a village vigilante left alive so you can discount the possibility that someone is not speaking up because they’re the village vig. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5056 "2011-09-08T19:17:09Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Hey you, read my post up above, particularly the red part. > [@crackedquads](#): > > Unless you’re saying you have no other potential targets which is kind of lame. Actually I think everyone can agree the UTR’s aren’t exactly great for the game, so I can just vig off the person with the least # of posts who is still alive if that works. You asked me to pick your target or post a list of my suspects. I did so. I see no need to list people where I have only a weak anti-Town or no read. Would you like me to be explicit? Then please kill either yourself, Episkey, or J.D. I don’t even ask that you choose randomly from this list, but make your own judgment call. AOP: Maybe the Village Angel aka Town Doc doesn’t want to out reveal their role. Perfectly acceptable in these parts. And nobody’s claimed to have “felt a warm glow”/“felt kindness” for two Nights, and nobody claimed to have “felt safe” last Night. In fact, nobody claimed to have a safe feeling on N2 or N3 either, according to lilflower’s list. People don’t have to hand out all the info they have, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5057 "2011-09-08T19:18:38Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > UPDATED LIST OF CLAIMS > Please let me know if I got anything wrong. Not wrong, but missing: Night 4, I targeted **lilflower** , but was blocked. I also felt “safe”. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5058 "2011-09-08T19:22:44Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Lilflower stop posting lists trying to look like a villager and tell me why you’re not a wolf. > > Cus I know you areeeeeee. What’s going to be super funny is when I die and you find out I’m town (unless you are scum and already know that). That is what makes your little jabs at me tolerable. Why don’t you tell me why you think I’m a wolf so I actually have something to defend myself against? Otherwise, the only thing I can tell you is that I am not a wolf because I’m a villager. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5059 "2011-09-08T19:23:41Z")
That could indicate lilflower blocks anyone targeting her. CQ tried to bump her off N3 and you were blocked on N4 Not that that would tell us anything about her alinegment. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5060 "2011-09-08T19:24:44Z")
Then again that would be odd as she would not need to target anyone else, so never mind ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5061 "2011-09-08T19:33:03Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > That could indicate lilflower blocks anyone targeting her. CQ tried to bump her off N3 and you were blocked on N4 > > Not that that would tell us anything about her alinegment. I the super non killable role is beleivable perhaps there is another neutral with some other power? discount nothing (I don’t think \*\* lil \*\* has shared targets?) cold meds are fun [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=252) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=254)