# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5062 "2011-09-08T19:39:40Z")

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I guess they would be lynchable still.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5063 "2011-09-08T19:42:23Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> I’d also like to ask people why they think Drain Bead is lean villager.
> 
> Idle Thoughts (scum detective) claimed to have been PM’d DB’s role. I don’t think anyone else has claimed to have received a full role for another player in a PM.
> 
> Isn’t it possible that Idle investigated DrainBead as a fellow scum - found out the role, but claimed that it was PM’d to maintain distance if DrainBead was lynched and flipped scum.

Not to harp on the same thing, but has ANYONE else been PM’d a full role and alignment for another player?

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5064 "2011-09-08T19:43:26Z")

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CORRECTED CORRECTED UPDATED LIST OF CLAIMS  
Please let me know if I got anything wrong.

**Night 0**  
\*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*targets lilflower  
NAF targets \*\*peeker **(successful; has peeker’s power on Night 1)  
Normal Phase targets Drain Bead  
Mykbot/DuckburgDK targets himself  
Suburban Plankton targets** Krayz \*\*  
Giraffe targets Normal Phase  
Episkey targets **Dancecat**  
\*\*Idle \*\*targets Suburban Plankton [post 3721]  
pwnsall targets **TexCat**

bufftabby got no result (did not reveal target)

Scathach targets septimus

**Night 1**  
Ed targets Scuba Ben  
Drain Bead targets Scuba Ben  
Scuba Ben gets two targets on Night 2  
Scuba Ben gets message that Jan is villager (reflected onto himself by Drain Bead)  
Giraffe targets \*\*peeker \*\*  
Episkey targets Jan (confirmed by SP)  
Silver Jan targets Ed

\*\*Idle \*\*targets NAF [post 3721]  
\*\*Idle \*\*gets message that NAF is village mimic [post 3721]

\*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*targets **Mahaloth**  
\*\*Mahaloth \*\*is poisoned and shot

Scathach targets **Dancecat**  
\*\*Idle \*\*gets message that \*\*Dancecat \*\*is villager

Scuba Ben targets **gnarlycharlie**  
\*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*feels protected

Episkey targets Jan  
Silver Jan gets message that \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*is wolf

\*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*targets **Texcat**  
\*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*and \*\*Texcat \*\*discover they are village masons

\*\*BlasterMaster \*\*targets Giraffe  
Giraffe gets message that \*\*BlasterMaster \*\*is villager

Weedy gets message that \*\*Texcat \*\*is Villager and mason

NAF targets Ed (and has his power for Night 2)

**Lightfoot I** targets \*\*silman \*_rec’d “No apparent result” except he woke up dead_  
PCM watches Episkey (Suburban Plankton visited Episkey)  
SP tracks Episkey who visited Silver Jan

bufftabby got no result (did not reveal target but says it was not septimus)  
NAF feels protected  
\*\*Idle \*\*feels safe  
septimus enjoyed kindness  
Ed got no result  
SisterCoyote/JD got no result (do not know target)  
\*\*pwnsall \*\*is roleblocked  
Scathach targets **Dancecat**  
\*\*Zeriel \*\*targets **Lightfoot I**  
crackedquads targets Ed (“didn’t feel like using his power”)  
septimus targets bufftabby

**Night 2**  
AskthePizzaGuy targets **brewha**  
\*\*brewha \*\*is poisoned

\*\*Idle \*\*targets Jan  
\*\*Idle \*\*targets **AskthePizzaGuy**  
PCM targets SP (no one visited SP)  
Drain Bead targets **gnarlycharlie**  
SP tracks **Lightfoot I** who went in one direction but then turned towards **peeker**  
Giraffe targets **AskthePizzaGuy**  
Episkey targets **AskthePizzaGuy**  
Ed targets buff (random)

Silver Jan target **Idle**  
\*\*Idle \*\*is roleblocked

Scathach targets Ed  
Special Ed feels healthy  
Special Ed gets a complete role PM with power outlined

NAF (mimic) targets himself (with Ed’s power)  
NAF gets two targets on Night 3

bufftabby targets herself  
bufftabby felt a warm glow

Episkey targets **AskthePizzaGuy**

\*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*gets message that NAF is a wolf  
\*\*AskthePizzaGuy \*\*gets message that Episkey is a wolf  
PCM gets a message that he is the apothecary _[but doesn’t believe it]_  
Giraffe gets a message that \*\*pwnsall \*\*is town  
**Lightfoot I** targeted crackedquads “No apparent result” still alive \*  
Donkx4 gets a message that \*\*Dancecat \*\*is a villager  
JD was redirected  
\*\*Idle \*\*gets message that Drain Bead is village reflector [post 3721]

\*\*pwnsall \*\*targets buff  
\*\*pwnsall \*\*gets “successful” response regarding Night action

Normal Phase targets **Idle Thoughts**  
Scathach targets Ed  
\*\*Zeriel \*\*targets **peeker**  
crackedquads targets \*\*Dancecat \*\*(Dancecat dies)  
Scuba Ben targets **AskthePizzaGuy**  
Scuba Ben targets Giraffe

**Night 3**  
**Lightfoot I** targets \*\*gnarlycharlie \*\*“No Apparent Result “ except he was shot \*  
Jan targets **Lightfoot I**

\*\*Idle \*\*targets himself [post 3721]  
\*\*Idle \*\*targets Episkey

PCM targets \*\*pwsnall \*\*  
PCM gets results on septimus (no one visited septimus)

Drain Bead targets herself  
Drain Bead has two targets Night 4

Giraffe targets Ed

Scuba Ben gets a message that \*\*Weedy \*\*is a villager  
\*\*Idle \*\*feels healthy

Suburban Plankton tracks crackedquads (CQ visited lilflower)  
NAF (as Ed) targets Normal Phase  
NAF (as Ed) targets lilflower

Normal Phase targets crackedquads  
Scathach targets **Idle Thoughts**  
\*\*Zeriel \*\*targets **TexCat**  
Episkey targets **gnarlycharlie**  
Episkey gets a message that \*\*pwnsall \*\*is scum  
crackedquads targets lilflower (lilflower does not die)  
septimus targets PCM  
Scuba Ben targets himself  
**Lightfoot I** feels warm glow

**Night 4**  
\*\*Lightfoot I \*\* targets Episkey  
Scuba Ben targets Drain Bead  
PCM targets crackedquads (no one visited CQ)  
Drain Bead targets Episkey  
Drain Bead targets **Lightfoot I**

Drain Bead feels safe  
Drain Bead gets a message that Ed is town

NAF (as lilflower and Normal Phase?) targets **Lightfoot I**

Normal Phase gets a role PM for a roleblocker  
Giraffe targets himself  
\*\*Zeriel \*\*targets NAF (says NAF is town)  
Episkey targets **pwnsall**  
Episkey gets a message the Episkey is scum  
Jan reports “no apparent result”  
Ed is roleblocked  
\*\*pwnsall \*\*is “successful” on **Zeriel**  
crackedquads targets **Lightfoot I** (Lightfoot I dies)

Suburban Plankton targets lilflower  
Suburban Plankton is roleblocked  
Suburban Plankton feels safe

**Night 5**  
Scuba Ben is roleblocked  
Drain Bead is cured  
Drain Bead targets Normal Phase  
Scathach targets Drain Bead  
Giraffe targets Drain Bead  
Episkey is roleblocked  
septimus receives a role PM  
crackedquads targets \*\*pwnsall \*\*(pwnsall dies)

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5065 "2011-09-08T19:56:42Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> Not to harp on the same thing, but has ANYONE else been PM’d a full role and alignment for another player?

PCM got the apothecary role PM but it had his own name in it.  
Ed got a role PM for his own role  
Normal Phase got a PM for a roleblocker but I don’t know if she told us if her name was in that PM or not

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5066 "2011-09-08T20:03:59Z")

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I don’t remember if I did, either, let me check.

Night Five:  
Drain Bead targets Normal Phase --\> implies Normal Phase targets self

Scathach, what sort of distinction are you trying to draw? Everybody gets PMed results.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5067 "2011-09-08T20:05:19Z")

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Yeah, it said I (by name) was a roleblocker/villager alignment.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5068 "2011-09-08T20:07:42Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
>
> I don’t remember if I did, either, let me check.
> 
> Night Five:  
> Drain Bead targets Normal Phase –\> implies Normal Phase targets self
> 
> Scathach, what sort of distinction are you trying to draw? Everybody gets PMed results.

Lots of people have got alignment peeks. One or two have got a role PM with their own name at the top that didn’t seem to apply to them.

Idle claimed to have been PM’d a full role and alignment peek. I don’t think anyone else has.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5069 "2011-09-08T20:08:45Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> Lots of people have got alignment peeks. One or two have got a role PM with their own name at the top that didn’t seem to apply to them.
> 
> Idle claimed to have been PM’d a full role and alignment peek. I don’t think anyone else has.

Been PM’d a full role and alignment peek for someone else, that should read.

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5070 "2011-09-08T20:11:05Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
>
> Would ou care to list your targets, for the record?

Hmm…sure.

N0: peeker  
N1: NAF  
N2: buff  
N3: lightfoot  
N4: buff  
N5: pwnsall

I felt a warm glow both times that I targeted myself, but nothing else seemed to happen. I had no apparent result otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5071 "2011-09-08T20:13:43Z")

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**DAY SIX VOTE COUNT**

Through #5069

crackedquads (9): J.D. [4771], DonkTimesFour [4826], Giraffe [4834], Drain Bead [4858], Silver Jan [4864], Scathach [4874], lilflower [4877], special ed [4943], NAF1138 [4947]  
Episkey (4): [del]Drain Bead [4772][/del], Normal Phase [4777], [del]Scathach [4778][/del], Suburban Plankton [4790], Scuba Ben [4808], crackedquads [4817], [del]Silver Jan [4835][/del]  
Precambrianmollusc (0): [del]septimus [4839][/del]

Please PM me with any corrections.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5072 "2011-09-08T20:14:21Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> Been PM’d a full role and alignment peek for someone else, that should read.

Idle was a detective and per the reveal, he learned his target’s full role.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5073 "2011-09-08T20:15:55Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
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> Idle was a detective and per the reveal, he learned his target’s full role.

Unknown if he reported accuratly of course

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5074 "2011-09-08T20:20:22Z")

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> [@bufftabby](#):
>
> Hmm…sure.
> 
> N0: peeker  
> N1: NAF  
> N2: buff  
> N3: lightfoot  
> N4: buff  
> N5: pwnsall
> 
> I felt a warm glow both times that I targeted myself, but nothing else seemed to happen. I had no apparent result otherwise.

Curious. N5 you targeted pwnsall, who got shot the same Night by CQ. I don’t believe NAF or LFv1 reported anything significant the following Day. So you probably counter some specific role action.

@LF v2 and lilflower: IIRC, Idle claimed to have received full reveals for multiple people, including himself twice on the same night. It’s quite possible someone is handing out their target’s full role, as well as someone handing out incorrect full roles.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5075 "2011-09-08T20:21:31Z")

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Gadarene, can you try to show your signature as much as possible? I love those shortcut links to the past Days. Also, [here is a link to Day 5’s results](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14222425&postcount=4740), and [here is Night Five’s results](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14225498&postcount=4760), if you want to add them.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5076 "2011-09-08T20:26:45Z")

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> [@lilflower](#):
>
> Idle was a detective and per the reveal, he learned his target’s full role.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> **Night 2, I targeted Silver Jan** , for thinking she was the most suspicious of the huge kerfuffle on Day 2.
> 
> Morning came, and I got TWO results (only one of which I relayed): One, that I was blocked (this is the one I told everyone)…but I had another from someone else, apparently… **The other informed me that, apparently, Drain Bead is a reflector, and a Villager.**  
> What she does is selects a target each night. Her target’s night action for that night will be redirected back to her target. And she wins when all the threats to Town have been eliminated.
> 
> The info on **Drain Bead** , I assume, came from someone else.  
> .

Idle claimed not have investigated Drain Bead and that the PM came from someone else.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> Never got the result I was blocked. **Septimus** , the cop, got a message from someone else (one of the random ones sent out among all the cops) that Janet was a roleblocker. After she said she targeted me, we figured this was another way to get Town cred.

This is after Idle was caught out as scum, claims not to have been roleblocked after all.

So either:  
[ul]  
[li]Idle was redirected, targeted DrainBead, and accurately reported PM[/li][li]Idle targeted fellow scum DrainBead, switched the alignment, and claimed to have been PM’d by someone else to divert attention if DrainBead flipped scum[/li][li]Idle really did target village DrainBead, accurately reported result. Claimed to have been roleblocked for village cred.[/li][/ul]

Or another obvious possibility which I’m missing entirely?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5077 "2011-09-08T20:27:40Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
>
> Curious. N5 you targeted pwnsall, who got shot the same Night by CQ. I don’t believe NAF or LFv1 reported anything significant the following Day. So you probably counter some specific role action.
> 
> @LF v2 and lilflower: IIRC, Idle claimed to have received full reveals for multiple people, including himself twice on the same night. It’s quite possible someone is handing out their target’s full role, as well as someone handing out incorrect full roles.

You missed where LFv1 reported a warm glow N3.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5078 "2011-09-08T20:31:49Z")

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> [@bufftabby](#):
>
> Hmm…sure.
> 
> N0: peeker  
> N1: NAF  
> N2: buff  
> N3: lightfoot  
> N4: buff  
> N5: pwnsall
> 
> I felt a warm glow both times that I targeted myself, but nothing else seemed to happen. I had no apparent result otherwise.

Your Night 0 action presumably did not go through  
NAF reported feeling “safe” on Night 1  
LightFoot felt “a warm glow” on Night 3  
pwnsall wound up dead on Day 6

septimus reported receiving a “warm glow” on Night 1. He reported targeting you on Night 1, so if he is a ‘self-redirector’, that would make sense. Therefore NAF’s “safe feeling” has nothing to do with you.

It seems fairly clear that you are the “giver of warm glows”, though what exactly that means is unclear. It doesn’t seem to protect your target from being killed (see pwnsall), and it doesn’t seem to cure poison (since you didn’t target Drain Bead).

We have the following people reporting feeling “safe”

NAF1138 - Night 1  
Drain Bead - Night 4  
Suburban Plankton - Night 4

Not sure what to make of that yet…

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5079 "2011-09-08T20:36:00Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
>
> Gadarene, can you try to show your signature as much as possible? I love those shortcut links to the past Days. Also, [here is a link to Day 5’s results](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14222425&postcount=4740), and [here is Night Five’s results](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14225498&postcount=4760), if you want to add them.

Here you go. Though I’m sadly running up against the signature character limits (which include url, apparently).

(And thanks for those links.)

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5080 "2011-09-08T20:36:38Z")

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we’ve seen felt safe/ warm glow/ and healthy

carefull Doc keep it close

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5081 "2011-09-08T20:59:26Z")

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When is day end?  
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