# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5162 "2011-09-11T12:11:53Z")

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Anyone have a living player list and/or a list of role claims.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5163 "2011-09-11T13:06:09Z")

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I’m not surprised to be Dead this Morning.

Go Town!

Gad, please spoil me.

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**Author:** ![J.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@J.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/J.D)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5164 "2011-09-11T13:19:57Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> I targeted JD last night. He is town.

> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Fair enough. Kind of surprised a poisoner would have gone after someone like JD, who was starting to pick up some suspicion, but hey, thanks to you it was a wasted move.

IMO its a decent move. I was getting heat, but not enough to get lynched.

Its a good way for the wolves to get an extra death, because I probably wouldnt be healed without NAF’s help 🙂

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5165 "2011-09-11T15:46:25Z")

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Well I watched NAF last night but received no apparent result, so either I was blocked, or what I think is more likely is that if someone was protecting NAF - that blocks anyone who targets their target.

I also watched Zerial the night before, Zerial was only visited by NAF, presumably NAF has Zerial power last night. Also it would appear the wolves kill with a collective kill not an assigned killer as NAF was the only visitor.

In other news - I again received a PM for a town role with my name at the beginning. Someone out there is the town efficiency expert , who ever they target gets to pick two targets the following night.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5166 "2011-09-11T15:52:56Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Well I watched NAF last night but received no apparent result, so either I was blocked, or what I think is more likely is that if someone was protecting NAF - that blocks anyone who targets their target.
> 
> I also watched Zerial the night before, Zerial was only visited by NAF, presumably NAF has Zerial power last night. Also it would appear the wolves kill with a collective kill not an assigned killer as NAF was the only visitor.
> 
> In other news - I again received a PM for a town role with my name at the beginning. Someone out there is the town efficiency expert , who ever they target gets to pick two targets the following night.

That’s my role.

I did not appear to be blocked last Night.

And I targeted NAF. If he confirms that, then you’re a big fat liar.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5167 "2011-09-11T16:06:44Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Well I watched NAF last night but received no apparent result, so either I was blocked, or what I think is more likely is that if someone was protecting NAF - that blocks anyone who targets their target.
> 
> I also watched Zerial the night before, Zerial was only visited by NAF, presumably NAF has Zerial power last night. Also it would appear the wolves kill with a collective kill not an assigned killer as NAF was the only visitor.
> 
> In other news - I again received a PM for a town role with my name at the beginning. Someone out there is the town efficiency expert , who ever they target gets to pick two targets the following night.

Even if NAF was blocked, this strikes me as a safe Scum claim.

You claim to have watched NAF after he obviously targeted Zeriel.

Maybe you or a teammate are the one who can prevent anyone from targeting their target.

In any case, after your misdirection earlier, it all seems too convenient.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5168 "2011-09-11T16:08:27Z")

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how so - all I received was a message saying i received no apparent result. Of which there are two possibilities

1. I was targeted by someone which resulted in no apparent result
2. Naf was targeted by someone with a power that blocked anyone

If you know exactly how any blocking or redirecting might work, could you let us know?  
I presumed 2 was more likely.  
If the PM I received is your role - NAF will get doubled tomorrow - so he probably wont know until tomorrow night. If he can confirm tomorrow then we know I was blocked or what ever rather then my assumption 2  
None of which make me a big fat liar.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5169 "2011-09-11T16:09:39Z")

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I targeted myself last Night and got the usual, no apparent result. On the other hand I did get a whisper that\*\* Lilflower\*\* was Town???

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5170 "2011-09-11T16:10:41Z")

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NAF was an obvious target to watch , whilst I knew we wouldn’t catch scum killers, he would certainly have been a target for any scum mischief so worth watching. Hell even NAF suggested it.

misdirection earlier? An assumption of option 2 rather than one is hardly misdirection.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5171 "2011-09-11T16:13:37Z")

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Ed - just we don’t get confused between watcher/follower - I see who visits my target, I believe Suburban plankton is our tracker who follows a target. I saw him visit episky night one, he claimed to have followed episky, not sure where episky went.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5172 "2011-09-11T16:15:29Z")

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Who else has received a note in the night giving a role PM with their own name at the beginning?

If you have I wouldn’t believe it, that twice I have received a role PM with my name but obviously not my role.  
(Apothecary and town efficiency expert)

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5173 "2011-09-11T16:18:30Z")

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Also can anyone point me to approximately the post range where Zerial confirmed NAF  
(assuming that he did and it isn’t all a delusion)

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5174 "2011-09-11T16:18:43Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> how so - all I received was a message saying i received no apparent result. Of which there are two possibilities
> 
> 1. I was targeted by someone which resulted in no apparent result
> 2. Naf was targeted by someone with a power that blocked anyone
> 
> If you know exactly how any blocking or redirecting might work, could you let us know?  
> I presumed 2 was more likely.  
> If the PM I received is your role - NAF will get doubled tomorrow - so he probably wont know until tomorrow night. If he can confirm tomorrow then we know I was blocked or what ever rather then my assumption 2  
> None of which make me a big fat liar.

When I was blocked, I was made aware of it in the PM containing my Night results. Though there is another Night when my action seemed to fail, so you are possibly correct. (Though, in honesty, might that not fit in with bufftabby’s role? and the warm glow?)

As anyone I’ve targeted should confirm, they were informed at Dawn immediately after I targeted them that they would have to submit 2 actions that Night.

```auto

To review my actions (including information I have not shared):

N0: I targeted guiri.
N1: I targeted Scuba Ben
N2: I targeted bufftabby (randomly)
N3: I targeted Drain Bead (randomly)
N4: I targeted Zeriel (randomly). I was informed that I was blocked.
N5: I targeted myself
N6: I targeted NAF and someone else.

N1: Scuba Ben confirmed my power was on him.
N1: NAF claims to have stolen my power
N2: My action failed to target bufftabby? (according to her) Also, I felt healthy. I also received my role PM.
N3: Drain Bead claimed to be my target
N5: I was told immediately that I need to target 2 people on N6

```

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5175 "2011-09-11T16:19:47Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Ed - just we don’t get confused between watcher/follower - I see who visits my target, I believe Suburban plankton is our tracker who follows a target. I saw him visit episky night one, he claimed to have followed episky, not sure where episky went.

Fine, let’s see if NAF can confirm that I visited him.

Otherwise, maybe the shadowy blocker visited him.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5176 "2011-09-11T16:21:14Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Who else has received a note in the night giving a role PM with their own name at the beginning?
> 
> If you have I wouldn’t believe it, that twice I have received a role PM with my name but obviously not my role.  
> (Apothecary and town efficiency expert)

I got mine, the efficiency expert, and it’s apparently true.

Also, learning the roles of players out there might be a useful Scum power…

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5177 "2011-09-11T16:32:24Z")

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I would imagine both town and scum have some sort of role that helps identify roles in this game.  
Whoever is whispering me these results could be either town or scum. The confusing element of the whispers has scummy overtones (confusion doesn’t help town) but then it could be a town insane type role and whoever has it has figured that telling the same person as much as possible would help minimize the confusion. Perhaps I just have an egomaniac syndrome in addition to my peeping tom predilections and am just so vain I think all these role PMs are about me.

Ed did you ever actually say what your role name was (efficiency expert)in the past?

Either way lets see what NAF comes back with.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5178 "2011-09-11T16:37:41Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> I would imagine both town and scum have some sort of role that helps identify roles in this game.  
> Whoever is whispering me these results could be either town or scum. The confusing element of the whispers has scummy overtones (confusion doesn’t help town) but then it could be a town insane type role and whoever has it has figured that telling the same person as much as possible would help minimize the confusion. Perhaps I just have an egomaniac syndrome in addition to my peeping tom predilections and am just so vain I think all these role PMs are about me.
> 
> Ed did you ever actually say what your role name was (efficiency expert)in the past?
> 
> Either way lets see what NAF comes back with.

I don’t think I mentioned efficiency expert specifically, no

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5179 "2011-09-11T16:50:03Z")

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Scuba’s reveal pretty much seems to confirm it.

\*\*Vote Episkey  
\*\*

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5180 "2011-09-11T17:08:49Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
>
> Fine, let’s see if NAF can confirm that I visited him.
> 
> Otherwise, maybe the shadowy blocker visited him.

I had a warm glow this morning but no other notice.

Quick question on an unrelated note. Does anyone not have a pretty good idea of what they do yet?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5181 "2011-09-11T17:13:00Z")

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Having thought about it, I think now is probably the right time to kill episky and get his role figured out. If he is what he thinks he is it could give us a lot of good info and he isn’t going to get nkd by a town power (since those all seem to be dead.)  
Episky. Can you give us a list if your targets and results again please? Including last Night.

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