# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 260
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5182 "2011-09-11T17:20:21Z")
I sense the Episkey lynch will go off without a hitch toDay. Wolf or Village the distraction is preventing us from finding the other Wolves.(And he is smelling like a wolf more each day) Ad to it his role seems to not do us much good til he is dead.but I repeat myself IF cases are not made for the next best thing it will be a very loong Day. I have made a few cases that I thought were good ones that apparently don’t hold water with any of you (I am a tad annoyed that PCM couldn’t even be bothered to respond to the case made against 'im= it still bugs me) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5183 "2011-09-11T17:23:07Z")
**Vote Episkey** No one seems the slightest bit interested in the whisper I got last night ☹ If it’s anything like the other one it will be false and\*\* Lilflower\*\* really is scum. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5184 "2011-09-11T17:41:31Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > **Vote Episkey** > > No one seems the slightest bit interested in the whisper I got last night ☹ If it’s anything like the other one it will be false and\*\* Lilflower\*\* really is scum. We’ve had true whispers, false whispers and wtf whispers. you are not being ignored. I’m guessing it will be a slow day, plenty of time for research ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5185 "2011-09-11T17:56:55Z")
Ed, I have two targets tomorrow. Not sure how you got redirected to me, but you did. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5186 "2011-09-11T17:59:23Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Ed, I have two targets tomorrow. Not sure how you got redirected to me, but you did. No, I targeted you as well. N5 I target myself. N6 I targeted you and NAF ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5187 "2011-09-11T18:10:42Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I targeted JD last Night. I doubt a Scum poisoner would have gone after an unknown. He may have poisoned himself. > > **vote Episkey** > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Fair enough. Kind of surprised a poisoner would have gone after someone like JD, who was starting to pick up some suspicion, but hey, thanks to you it was a wasted move. Isn’t it highly probable that JD is the poisoner? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5188 "2011-09-11T18:11:44Z")
I agree that Episkey is a good lynch toDay because it’s highly likely that he is scum based on Scuba’s actions. \*\*vote Episkey \*\* ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5189 "2011-09-11T18:13:03Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Isn’t it highly probable that JD is the poisoner? I think we sort of figured that someone can use dead players powers. I dunno if it is Random or? JD do you think you know your role? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5190 "2011-09-11T18:14:27Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > We’ve had true whispers, false whispers and wtf whispers. you are not being ignored. I’m guessing it will be a slow day, plenty of time for research Looking back at all the messages that we’ve had, the only false town message we’ve had so far is from Blaster and we’ve got one unconfirmed on Jan (although I’m thinking that one is likely true since Scuba got that message on the Night that Drain Bead targeted him). So there’s that and the fact that the message about me is true. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5191 "2011-09-11T18:17:53Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > (I am a tad annoyed that PCM couldn’t even be bothered to respond to the case made against 'im= it still bugs me) Sorry, could really work out what the salient points of the case were, other than I made a piss poor vote night one, and everything I say looks scummy to you (well prior you). About the only thing we can say about your prior you case is that it was not scum trying to push a town lynch. ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5192 "2011-09-11T18:20:14Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I think we sort of figured that someone can use dead players powers. I dunno if it is Random or? > > JD do you think you know your role? But we’ve had two Nights of poisoned players after Pizza’s death so either there is another poisoner out there or there are two roles that can steal others’ powers (because if we had only one power-stealer, they could not have targeted Pizza two Nights in a row). ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5193 "2011-09-11T18:23:05Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > But we’ve had two Nights of poisoned players after Pizza’s death so either there is another poisoner out there or there are two roles that can steal others’ powers (because if we had only one power-stealer, they could not have targeted Pizza two Nights in a row). Maybe stealing a dead player’s power. The poisonings weren’t on back to back Nights, were they? But how would it work? You target a dead person, then a living person on the other Night? Wouldn’t the player have had to known that they’d need to target dead players? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5194 "2011-09-11T18:26:01Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > But we’ve had two Nights of poisoned players after Pizza’s death so either there is another poisoner out there or there are two roles that can steal others’ powers (because if we had only one power-stealer, they could not have targeted Pizza two Nights in a row). You may have missed the conversation (easy here to do so) But atleast 2 of us have played where a player could use a dead players “power” We have not had a poisoning EVERY night (and we all know we are manditory) so it is possible that someone gets to choose or is randomized a dead players power- remember the “found” gun? ---
**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5195 "2011-09-11T18:30:47Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Maybe stealing a dead player’s power. > > The poisonings weren’t on back to back Nights, were they? > > But how would it work? You target a dead person, then a living person on the other Night? > > Wouldn’t the player have had to known that they’d need to target dead players? > [@LightFoot](#): > > You may have missed the conversation (easy here to do so) But atleast 2 of us have played where a player could use a dead players “power” We have not had a poisoning EVERY night (and we all know we are manditory) so it is possible that someone gets to choose or is randomized a dead players power- remember the “found” gun? True, I forgot that Drain Bead was poisoned Night 4 and not just last Night (Night 5). And I don’t think the player would have to know they had to target dead players - maybe they can target anyone, dead or alive, and the player is just choosing dead targets since those are the roles we know. ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5196 "2011-09-11T19:26:43Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I had a warm glow this morning but no other notice. > > Quick question on an unrelated note. Does anyone not have a pretty good idea of what they do yet? I failed to submit a target in time, and was randed to target you. To respond to the second part, the warm glow is pretty obviously what I do, but I have no clue what that warm glow does. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5197 "2011-09-11T19:56:22Z")
**Vote: Episkey** > [@NAF1138](#): > > Anyone have a living player list and/or a list of role claims. Here’s mine; non-colored persons alive. There are probably errors; corrections appreciated. AR Astral Rejection Town Mystic Shot N3 BM Blaster Master Wolf Propagandist Lynched D2 BR brewha Wolf Vigilante poisoned N2 Dead N3 BU bufftabby Courtesan? CQ crackedquads Neutral Killer Lynched D6 DB Drain Bead (Town reflector acc. IT) Poisoned N4 Cured N5 DC Dancecat Town Crier shot N2 DG sangaman (was Meeko) Wolf Doctor Lynched D3 DK DonkTimesFour (was sachertorte) DU LighterFeet (was Duckburg, was MykBot) ED Special Ed (Town Efficiency Expert) EP Episkey GC gnarlycharlie Town Mason (Kill-type) shot N3 GI Giraffe GU GuiriEnEspana Town Vig killed N1 IS Inner Stickler Town Beat Cop shot (with GU’s gun) N2 IT Idle Thoughts Wolf Detective Lynched D4 JD J.D. (was SisterCoyote) KZ Krayz Town Bureaucrat Lynched D1 LG LightFoot Town Mason (Protect-type) Shot N4 LL lilflower MA Mahaloth Wolf Tracker shot N1 NA NAF1138 (Town Mimic) NP Normal Phase PC Precambrianmollusc (Town Watcher) PE peekercpa Town Lightning Rod dead N2 PW pwnsall (was TimeLady) Town Headhunter Shot N5 PZ Askthepizzaguy (was PetW) Town Poisoner ModKilled N3 SB Scuba\_Ben Town Gossip SC Scathach SJ Silver Jan SM Silman Town Journalist Killed N1 SP Suburban Plankton (Town Tracker) SS septimus (Town Target Attractor) TC TexCat Town Mason (Kill-type) Killed N3 WE Weedy (was Hirka T’Bawa) Town Mystic dead N4 ZE Zeriel Town Detective Killed N5 > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > No one seems the slightest bit interested in the whisper I got last night ☹ If it’s anything like the other one it will be false and\*\* Lilflower\*\* really is scum. I’m interested, especially since I received the opposite whisper last night! :dubious: Here’s my synopsis of alignment whisper reports. Perhaps we should assume your whisper came from Scuba Ben on his death bed? There seemed to have been four roles that generated alignment messages: BM (Blaster Master) – Wolf Propagandist DC (Dancecat) – Town Crier SB (Scuba\_Ben) – Town Gossip XX – Scummer?? Here are the pure alignment messages, prefixed with apparent source: Night 1 SB: Scuba Ben gets message that Jan is villager (reflected onto himself by Drain Bead) DC: Idle gets message that Dancecat is villager BM: Giraffe gets message that BlasterMaster is villager XX: Silver Jan gets message that gnarlycharlie is wolf Night 2 SB: AskthePizzaGuy gets message that Episkey is a wolf SB: Giraffe gets a message that pwnsall is town DC: Donkx4 gets a message that Dancecat is a villager XX: AskthePizzaGuy gets message that NAF is a wolf Night 3 SB: Scuba Ben gets a message that Weedy is a villager XX: Episkey gets a message that pwnsall is scum Night 4 SB: Drain Bead gets a message that Ed is town XX: Episkey gets a message the Episkey is scum Night 5 SB: blocked XX: (none reported) Night 6 SB: Silver Jan gets a message lilflower is town XX: septimus gets a message lilflower is scum ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5198 "2011-09-11T20:09:59Z")
> [@](#): > > SB (Scuba\_Ben) – Town Gossip > XX – Scummer?? > … > Night 6 > SB: Silver Jan gets a message lilflower is town > XX: septimus gets a message lilflower is scum Immediately after posting this I realized there is an alternate interpretation. Instead of always reporting “so-and-so is Scum”, XX may be the sort of whisperer who always whispers lies. In this case, lilflower could be Scum, with me getting the message from Scuba Ben and Silver Jan getting her whisper from the Liar. (For this to work out, we might suppose that Episkey is the lie generator, got the lying message about himself, and, thinking we’d know these whispers were always backwards, flipped the message to show self as Scum. 😕 :smack: 😕 ) ---
**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5199 "2011-09-11T20:36:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > BU bufftabby Courtesan? Since all we _really_ know right now is that the only appreciable effect is that someone feels a “warm glow”, perhaps that should be reflected here? You’ve never explained exactly why you’re pushing so hard for me to be a Courtesan. [Normal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14231882&postcount=4974) [Phase](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14232370&postcount=4996) wondered the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5200 "2011-09-11T20:58:20Z")
Could it be that the warm glow blocks the effects of any other actions targeting her target? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5201 "2011-09-11T21:05:28Z")
> [@lilflower](#): > > Isn’t it highly probable that JD is the poisoner? Not when confirmed Town is telling me otherwise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=259) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=261)