# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5202 "2011-09-11T21:09:06Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Could it be that the warm glow blocks the effects of any other actions targeting her target?

I targeted **pwnsall** the Night he died, so I doubt it. Unless _I_ was blocked, which I have no reason to think that I was.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5203 "2011-09-11T21:21:34Z")

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> [@bufftabby](#):
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> I failed to submit a target in time, and was randed to target you.
> 
> To respond to the second part, the warm glow is pretty obviously what I do, but I have no clue what that warm glow does.

And PCM is claiming to have not seen you visit NAF.

My power was blocked from reaching him.

Yet yours appeared to reach him.

I’d be good lynching Episkey, and then bufftabby/PCM

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5204 "2011-09-11T21:43:36Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Not when confirmed Town is telling me otherwise.

What exactly has a \*confirmed Town \* told you?

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5205 "2011-09-11T21:54:23Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> And PCM is claiming to have not seen you visit NAF.
> 
> My power was blocked from reaching him.
> 
> Yet yours appeared to reach him.
> 
> I’d be good lynching Episkey, and then bufftabby/PCM

I still like the case on PCM, what do you see @ bufftabby?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5206 "2011-09-11T22:17:03Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> I still like the case on PCM, what do you see @ bufftabby?

I think she might be in cahoots with PCM. By targeting NAF, he can keep up a watcher claim.  
Wasn’t PCM the one who has changed what he claimed? What did he claim initially? And when did he change it?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5207 "2011-09-11T22:30:20Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I think she might be in cahoots with PCM. By targeting NAF, he can keep up a watcher claim.
> 
> Wasn’t PCM the one who has changed what he claimed? What did he claim initially? And when did he change it?

PCM received a “You are Town Apothecary” message on Night 2. IIRC he said at the time he didn’t believe it. Some of his results (e.g. his Night 3 result on me) confirm that he is indeed Watcher.

Several players (Bufftabby, DonkTimesFour, J.D., lilflower, and perhaps Normal Phase) have revealed little about their targeting or results. I view them with suspicion.

@ LighterFeet - Do you know who Duckburg targeted before you substituted in?

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5208 "2011-09-11T22:35:47Z")

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You sure about that?

> [@bufftabby](#):
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> Hmm…sure.
> 
> N0: peeker  
> N1: NAF  
> N2: buff  
> N3: lightfoot  
> N4: buff  
> N5: pwnsall
> 
> I felt a warm glow both times that I targeted myself, but nothing else seemed to happen. I had no apparent result otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5209 "2011-09-11T22:52:30Z")

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everyone lynch me. then learn my role is what i said it is. i dont blame you anymore. its cool though cause my fighting for a few days has gotten 2 wolves and a neutral lynched so we all good

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5210 "2011-09-11T23:00:20Z")

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> [@bufftabby](#):
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> You sure about that?

Sorry, my notes aren’t up to date.

And sorry for the “Courtesan?” label, which slipped in inadvertantly when I posted my private list in response to a query.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5211 "2011-09-11T23:03:55Z")

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> [@Episkey](#):
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> everyone lynch me. then learn my role is what i said it is. i dont blame you anymore. its cool though cause my fighting for a few days has gotten 2 wolves and a neutral lynched so we all good

Who did you target last Night?

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5212 "2011-09-11T23:12:27Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Who did you target last Night?

silver jan

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5213 "2011-09-11T23:13:29Z")

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> [@Episkey](#):
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> silver jan

NETA: i was convinced by her reasoning for roleblocking me the more i thought of it and considered her to be town. The last thing I want is for a wolf to get the message and falsify it

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5214 "2011-09-11T23:21:13Z")

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> [@LightFoot](#):
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> What exactly has a \*confirmed Town \* told you?

NAF told me JD is Town.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5215 "2011-09-11T23:37:51Z")

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> [@Episkey](#):
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> everyone lynch me. then learn my role is what i said it is. i dont blame you anymore. its cool though cause my fighting for a few days has gotten 2 wolves and a neutral lynched so we all good

So, if you are paranoid, then we’ll know to lynch lilflower as Scum as well.

Makes me wonder what results you would have gotten on a neutral

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5216 "2011-09-11T23:43:30Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> So, if you are paranoid, then we’ll know to lynch lilflower as Scum as well.
> 
> Makes me wonder what results you would have gotten on a neutral

I didnt even read the thread past the “its day” part and 3 insta votes on me.

If Jan got a “villager” result back I’m going to fistpump hifive everyone itt. Jan is this true? Because if so I am NOT letting you all lynch me over a confirmed wolf lol

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5217 "2011-09-11T23:44:35Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> So, if you are paranoid, then we’ll know to lynch lilflower as Scum as well.
> 
> Makes me wonder what results you would have gotten on a neutral

no clue on a neutral though. I guess since he couldnt be peeked itd be no apparent result?

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5218 "2011-09-11T23:47:49Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I think she might be in cahoots with PCM. By targeting NAF, he can keep up a watcher claim.  
> Wasn’t PCM the one who has changed what he claimed? What did he claim initially? And when did he change it?

Nope  
that was someone else with a short name - I think it was the guy who was poisoned  
I have been consistent

AIf NAF is saying he did not receive any notice that has two powers then it would be apparent that both yours and my actions on NAF did not have any effect. If NAF is reporting a warm glow and buff tageted him - that would indicate the protection role simply goes first in the order of actions and prevents other actions.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5219 "2011-09-11T23:57:17Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> Nope  
> that was someone else with a short name - I think it was the guy who was poisoned  
> I have been consistent

My mistake

> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> AIf NAF is saying he did not receive any notice that has two powers then it would be apparent that both yours and my actions on NAF did not have any effect. If NAF is reporting a warm glow and buff tageted him - that would indicate the protection role simply goes first in the order of actions and prevents other actions.

understood

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5220 "2011-09-11T23:58:02Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> So, if you are paranoid, then we’ll know to lynch lilflower as Scum as well.
> 
> Makes me wonder what results you would have gotten on a neutral

I think Cracked quads role reveal said any night investigations or actions on him would result in a no apparent result  
Quote our all wise mod

"You cannot be peeked; attempts to peek you return the message “No apparent result.”

Are we using the  
Paranoid = always scum result  
Insane = opposite alignment result  
nomenclature?

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5221 "2011-09-12T00:02:59Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Sorry, my notes aren’t up to date.
> 
> And sorry for the “Courtesan?” label, which slipped in inadvertantly when I posted my private list in response to a query.

**NAF** indicates that his action went through last Night. Doesn’t a Courtesan usually block the player that is targeted, as well as stopping Night actions against them? IIRC, which I may not.

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