# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5382 "2011-09-15T20:48:05Z")

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Interesting.

I have no other response at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5383 "2011-09-15T20:48:20Z")

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Oh, and full target list:

0: Septimus  
1: Drain Bead  
2: special ed  
3: Idle Thoughts  
4: Drain Bead  
5: Drain Bead - revoke  
6: J.D  
7. J.D -revoke - blocked

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5384 "2011-09-15T20:49:38Z")

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Sorry, Night 1 should read DanceCat. Brain fart with names starting with D 🙂

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5385 "2011-09-15T21:01:39Z")

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Interesting.

Obviously, if LighterFeet doesn’t die toDay, she should be your target, for reasons that will become obvious to the rest of you if I die.

If LighterFeet dies and is the Scum Roleblocker, as I presume will happen, I say you go after Suburban Plankton. After my mea culpa, and after it was revealed that LF also targeted you and was almost certainly the blocker, he tried to get a wagon rolling on me. He is still voting for me despite evidence that makes LF the obvious pick.

The good news is that if LF comes up Scum, as she most certainly will (on top of all the other evidence, what Townie lets their power get randed by choice at this point in the game?), you become the next best thing to confirmed Town.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5386 "2011-09-15T21:01:52Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> Sorry, Night 1 should read DanceCat. Brain fart with names starting with D 🙂

So, you’re the exception to the different target each Night rule?  
Oh and poison Giraffe then please

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5387 "2011-09-15T21:02:44Z")

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Apparently yes

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5388 "2011-09-15T21:10:54Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
>
> Interesting.
> 
> Obviously, if LighterFeet doesn’t die toDay, she should be your target, for reasons that will become obvious to the rest of you if I die.
> 
> If LighterFeet dies and is the Scum Roleblocker, as I presume will happen, I say you go after Suburban Plankton. After my mea culpa, and after it was revealed that LF also targeted you and was almost certainly the blocker, he tried to get a wagon rolling on me. He is still voting for me despite evidence that makes LF the obvious pick.
> 
> The good news is that if LF comes up Scum, as she most certainly will (on top of all the other evidence, what Townie lets their power get randed by choice at this point in the game?), you become the next best thing to confirmed Town.

What exactly makes you think I’m Scum, besides the fact that I’m suspicious of you?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5389 "2011-09-15T21:13:22Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> So, you’re the exception to the different target each Night rule?

Good point.

But why in the world would \*\*Scathach \*\*choose to make up a story like this?

That’s not so much a “Scum wouldn’t do that” issue, as a “Any reasonably sane person wouldn’t do that” one. Unless I’m missing some cunningly subtle angle here.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5390 "2011-09-15T21:19:40Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Good point.
> 
> But why in the world would \*\*Scathach \*\*choose to make up a story like this?
> 
> That’s not so much a “Scum wouldn’t do that” issue, as a “Any reasonably sane person wouldn’t do that” one. Unless I’m missing some cunningly subtle angle here.

because it sounded good at the time…?

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5391 "2011-09-15T21:31:05Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
>
> because it sounded good at the time…?

Ok, no. I’m aware how suspicious it makes me look.

But think of it this way, the rules also say “You can submit \*\*a \*\* target for your night action every night” but your role allows you to alter that. Well apparently mine alters the consecutive nights one.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5392 "2011-09-15T21:52:03Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> ```auto
> 
> **Night Actions:**
> 
> Every player must submit a target for their night action every night, including Night Zero. There was **one** Night Zero night action. By Night One, everyone will have a night action. Starting Night One, you will receive confirmation when we have processed your night action. Such confirmation may take the form of a PM stating "No Apparent Result." This does not mean that your night action failed. It only means that, to the extent there was some result of your night action, that result is not apparent to you.
> 
> ```

Actually, it says everyone must submit a Night Action. So, if you submit 2, you have met that obligation. Nowhere does it say you may never submit 2 Night Actions.

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> **You may not target the same player two nights in a row with your night action.** If you do submit the same player as a target on consecutive nights, we will randomly select (or “rand”) your second-night target from the pool of living players.
> 
> ```auto
> 
> ```

This, on the other hand, is clear and definitive.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5393 "2011-09-15T21:53:03Z")

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NETA: And the bolding and underlining isn’t even mine. It was in the rules bolded and underlined.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5394 "2011-09-15T22:05:21Z")

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There’s not a lot else I can say. It’s bolded and underlined because it’s unusual and it needed attention drawn to it?

Anyway, as I said, it’s more of a “take back” than a consecutive target.

The only reason I claimed is because we’re at the stage where everyone is posting full target lists. There’s no way for me to do that without the “DrainBead DrainBead J.D. J.D” problem. I considered lying and claiming I targeted myself on the poisoning nights, but I don’t think lying helps town.

I would like to point out that I claimed while under no particular suspicion. And that I didn’t heal Brewha, even though I was reasonably sure of my power by that stage (due to special ed revealing he felt healthy).

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5395 "2011-09-15T22:10:55Z")

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I’m at work no time to make this fancy (and I’m not sure anyone will glean anymore from it than I have)  
General consensus is that all information should be laid out there (I’ve stated my views of this but I won’t hang for my disagreement)  
My list of targets  
1 Weedy  
2 lightfoot1  
3 self  
4 Ed  
5 NAF  
6 Giraffe  
7 randed to scathach  
I didn’t appear to be helping anyone nor was I hurting anyone as far as I could tell.  
My wacky reasoning was if I targeted the ‘right’ person their powers might stimulate mine.

Ed and scathach both claim to have been role blocked  
LightFoot1 claimed No Apparent Result (which is what I got when I targeted myself) and nothing more. We know for sure that I did visit scathach  
I have no bloody idea what I do All I have ever seen is “No Apparent result”  
Except last night when I felt a warm glow (as I mentioned before)

\*\* an important bit to look at \*\*  
With scatchach “picking up” the dead poisoners poison………. WHO “picked up” the dead Vig’s gun?

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I’ll be home in about 3 1/2 hours I should be more productive then \*

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5396 "2011-09-15T22:15:07Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> There’s not a lot else I can say. It’s bolded and underlined because it’s unusual and it needed attention drawn to it?
> 
> Anyway, as I said, it’s more of a “take back” than a consecutive target.
> 
> The only reason I claimed is because we’re at the stage where everyone is posting full target lists. There’s no way for me to do that without the “DrainBead DrainBead J.D. J.D” problem. I considered lying and claiming I targeted myself on the poisoning nights, but I don’t think lying helps town.
> 
> I would like to point out that I claimed while under no particular suspicion. And that I didn’t heal Brewha, even though I was reasonably sure of my power by that stage (due to special ed revealing he felt healthy).

I understand. I’m not saying that you’re definitely Scum for this, but I’m just asking questions.

You very well may be honest with me. we;ve encounter one slight mod-oversight with crackedquads having additional attributes not related to Night powers, so it’s possible that you are an exception to the rule.

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**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5397 "2011-09-15T22:35:02Z")

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> [@Scathach](#):
>
> I’m going to  
> \*\*Vote Sangaman \*\* for PIS.
> 
> I’m also going to reveal that I targeted Dancecat Night 1 and Special Ed Night 2. Reason I’m revealing is SpecialEd said he felt “healthy.” However given that Dancecat didn’t say anything yesterday I’m not sure it proves anything.
> 
> Reason I’m revealing it now is:  
> A: PCM said that he got the apothecary role last night. But if that’s me then I don’t see how he would get that knowledge?  
> B. AskThePizzaGuy is claiming to be the Poisoner - if I’m the “apothecary” and town (you’ll have to take my word on that one I’m afraid), then why is the poisoner also town? Seems almost definitely 3rd party or Scum to me.  
> C.The obvious way to test this is to target Brewha tonight, but a good few people are finding him scummy and god knows my scum-radar isn’t the best, so I’m leaving the information out for town to decide what to do with it.

Also, here’s proof I strongly suspected I was the apothecary. But I didn’t heal brewha that night.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5398 "2011-09-15T22:47:04Z")

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From my notes, it looks like everyone alive has claimed targets for all Nights (1 through 7) except the following:

\*\*bufftabby \*\*- Night 7  
**sachertorte/DonkTimesFour** - All Nights  
\*\*septimus \*\*- Nights 6 and 7  
**special ed** - Night 7

Am I missing anything?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5399 "2011-09-15T22:52:58Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> From my notes, it looks like everyone alive has claimed targets for all Nights (1 through 7) except the following:
> 
> \*\*bufftabby \*\*- Night 7  
> **sachertorte/DonkTimesFour** - All Nights  
> \*\*septimus \*\*- Nights 6 and 7  
> **special ed** - Night 7
> 
> Am I missing anything?

I don’t plan on claiming my target last Night. I will wait to see if anyone claims having it and if so, what they choose to do with it. It might be rather telling.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5400 "2011-09-15T22:58:32Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
>
> I don’t plan on claiming my target last Night. I will wait to see if anyone claims having it and if so, what they choose to do with it. It might be rather telling.

I have no problem with you withholding your information for now.

But remember that nobody could have chosen to do anything with the extra ability you granted them yet. They won’t have that opportunity until Tonight.

That being said, I don’t see any pro-Town reason for the person you targeted not to announce that fact.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5401 "2011-09-15T23:16:55Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
>
> From my notes, it looks like everyone alive has claimed targets for all Nights (1 through 7) except the following:
> 
> \*\*bufftabby \*\*- Night 7  
> **sachertorte/DonkTimesFour** - All Nights  
> \*\*septimus \*\*- Nights 6 and 7  
> **special ed** - Night 7
> 
> Am I missing anything?

Did I miss Normal Phase claiming?

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