# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 271
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5402 "2011-09-15T23:28:43Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > I’ve been debating claiming this for a while, but at this point there’s probably enough information for scum to figure this out, but not for town. > > I am the apothecary. When AskThePizzaGuy died, I became the poisoner and the apothecary on alternate nights. I received a PM to this effect on that night. The new powers allow me to retract my use of poisoning the next night if I wish, rather than targeting the same person as such. > > So, I targeted DrainBead, because I’d been finding her scummy in a way I couldn’t really define. Then the next day, everyone seemed to take it as a given that she should be healed, so I figured my scumdar was just crap, and healed her. > > The next night, I was in a rush and couldn’t decide, so I targeted J.D. because a few people had been saying he was next on their scum list, and really I didn’t have any good reads myself. Next morning NAF confirmed JD as town, I tried to heal him last night and was blocked. So, yeah. Sorry about that ☹ > > Really the only thing I’ve managed to do so far is deliberately not heal Brewha. > > Anyway - pick a target for me to poison tonight and I will choose from the best case. The most likely probability is that I get blocked/killed tonight, but honestly, given my record, that might be best for town. Well damn if I don’t entirely suck at this game. This is exactly what I was going to accuse you of being, today, before I read the thread, because of poisonings coming lately on alternate nights and the healings (or lack thereof) in-between. And I’m not at all sure you are cleared, roleblock or no roleblock. And yes, Drain, you did – my first post today. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5403 "2011-09-16T00:57:01Z")
My main issue with Scathach’s claim is that she received a PM after ATPG died outlining her role. I don’t see how that fits in with the rest of the game as a whole–nobody ELSE got their roles in a PM unless someone else’s role caused it. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5404 "2011-09-16T01:01:45Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Interesting. > > Obviously, if LighterFeet doesn’t die toDay, she should be your target, for reasons that will become obvious to the rest of you if I die. > ~~snip~~ There is something you are not sharing at this time? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5405 "2011-09-16T01:15:39Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > My main issue with Scathach’s claim is that she received a PM after ATPG died outlining her role. I don’t see how that fits in with the rest of the game as a whole–nobody ELSE got their roles in a PM unless someone else’s role caused it. You have a point there, when the unmated mason died did their counterpart get a PM? And as I mentioned before (since it wasn’t just me you\* might have read it) we may have a necromancer type role (since \* someone\* picked up the dead vig’s gun?) I don’t recall that being resolved yet? \*generic you ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5406 "2011-09-16T01:37:09Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > There is something you are not sharing at this time? When I die, everyone else will see that I am Town, and the odds that you are Scum go up more to everyone else. So no, there’s nothing I’m not sharing at this time, it’s just that everyone else will know what I know once I’m dead. Not that I want that to happen anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5407 "2011-09-16T01:45:13Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > When I die, everyone else will see that I am Town, and the odds that you are Scum go up more to everyone else. So no, there’s nothing I’m not sharing at this time, it’s just that everyone else will know what I know once I’m dead. Not that I want that to happen anytime soon. I’m not sure how your flip influences mine? I don’t see an either/or here? or have I missed something? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5408 "2011-09-16T02:40:33Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I’m not sure how your flip influences mine? I don’t see an either/or here? > or have I missed something? I think that \*\*Drain \*\*is simply saying that right now there is a 3/13 chance of you being Scum (based purely on the math, and assuming there are three Scum left). If she is Town, then your chances of being Scum become 3/12. Therefore her being Town makes it more likely that you (and any of the rest of us) are Scum. Then there’s the theory that one of the two of you blocked \*\*Scathach \*\* in order to stop him from healing **J.D.**. If that’s true, then Drain flipping Town increases your odds of being Scum to 1/1. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5409 "2011-09-16T02:50:35Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > My main issue with Scathach’s claim is that she received a PM after ATPG died outlining her role. I don’t see how that fits in with the rest of the game as a whole–nobody ELSE got their roles in a PM unless someone else’s role caused it. Scathatch Did you receive a role PM outlining your powers as an apothcary? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5410 "2011-09-16T03:09:37Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Scathatch > > Did you receive a role PM outlining your powers as an apothcary? Also something we should consider, at what point was Scathatch still publicly stating uncertainty about her role? If she got that role PM upon the death of ATPG, then she should have been quite certain at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5411 "2011-09-16T09:17:42Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Scathatch > > Did you receive a role PM outlining your powers as an apothcary? Well, not exactly. When AskthePizzaGuy died, I got a PM (paraphrasing heavily to avoid breaking rules) saying basically his death affected me so much that I would spend some of my nights using my experience with poison to carry on his work. Now combining that with the “take back” option I have, and that people reported feeling “healthy” after I targeted them, then I think it’s the logical conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5412 "2011-09-16T10:56:49Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I think that \*\*Drain \*\*is simply saying that right now there is a 3/13 chance of you being Scum (based purely on the math, and assuming there are three Scum left). If she is Town, then your chances of being Scum become 3/12. Therefore her being Town makes it more likely that you (and any of the rest of us) are Scum. > > Then there’s the theory that one of the two of you blocked \*\*Scathach \*\* in order to stop him from healing **J.D.**. If that’s true, then Drain flipping Town increases your odds of being Scum to 1/1. Yeah, that. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5413 "2011-09-16T11:03:51Z")
Also, it occurs to me…Scum blocking Scathach and Lilflower shows us that they must know something about Giraffe that we don’t. As of last Night, it seemed like either Scathach or Giraffe could be the apothecary. So why did they know to pick her? I’m not saying that I think Giraffe is Scum–it’s possible, but I don’t think Scum would target Scum N1–another reason why mass target claiming is important at this point–but it’s certainly possible that Scum got some info at some point that they chose not to share with the rest of the class. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5414 "2011-09-16T15:50:27Z")
Just realised I havent’ voted yet. I’m going to **vote Giraffe** because I don’t like his claim of apothecary, combined with the fact that he “forgot” to send in a target last night. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5415 "2011-09-16T16:08:31Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Just realised I havent’ voted yet. > > I’m going to > **vote Giraffe** > > because I don’t like his claim of apothecary, combined with the fact that he “forgot” to send in a target last night. What are your thoughts on \*\*LightFoot \*\*and **Drain Bead** , given that it would appear that one of them blocked you last Night? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5416 "2011-09-16T16:45:26Z")
No one seems to care that I did not choose my target last Night. (c’est la) Suspect wise The fact that \*\* Drain Bead \*\* did choose their target and they know what they do.\* just messed up the name? \* The lack of information from \*\* Giraffe and Donkx4 \*\* \*\* Normal \*\* can’t figure out what they do yet either so no real vibe there (since I’m in the same boat) I’m not sure when EOD is and I’m very busy at work today For now \*\* vote Giraffe \*\* (thought they were a healer and have no access at all for the entire Day? \* actions can be sent in at anytime in most games\*) I hope to return If I don’t keep in mind we have not found out who ‘picked up’ the vig’s gun (or if they still have it?) AND I don’t recall seeing a dead re-director yet? have you\*? (there is a redirector type role claimed I recall but I wonder) ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5417 "2011-09-16T16:55:11Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > What are your thoughts on \*\*LightFoot \*\*and **Drain Bead** , given that it would appear that one of them blocked you last Night? Yeah, more “coincidences”. I’ve already made my case on DrainBead (I think yesterday) and I do find her suspicious. As for LightFoot, honestly I don’t know. I haven’t had much of a read off of him so far, but letting his power be randed seems anti town. LightFoot - did you know you were the roleblocker? Actually - does anyone have a vote count? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5418 "2011-09-16T16:59:43Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > ```auto > > ``` Please don’t kill me toNight. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5419 "2011-09-16T17:48:36Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Yeah, more “coincidences”. I’ve already made my case on DrainBead (I think yesterday) and I do find her suspicious. > > As for LightFoot, honestly I don’t know. I haven’t had much of a read off of him so far, but letting his power be randed seems anti town. > LightFoot - did you know you were the roleblocker? > > Actually - does anyone have a vote count? I swear. Does anyone read my posts. If you look at my list of targets and the things that didn’t happen to most of them I have no clue what I do or if I do the same thing everytime. I reasoned that I might have a power that was ‘triggered’ by another so I randed last Night to see if it changed my luck. I’m a she too btw ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5420 "2011-09-16T17:51:11Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Actually - does anyone have a vote count? I have: LightFoot (4): Precambrianmollusc (5335), lilflower (5337), Drain Bead (5346), Normal Phase (5373) Drain Bead (1): Suburban Plankton (5341) DonkTimesFour (1): septimus (5370) Giraffe (1): Scathach (5413), LightFoot (5415) Not voting: bufftabby (who has not posted at all Today, I believe) Giraffe Silver Jan special ed ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5421 "2011-09-16T17:53:29Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Yeah, more “coincidences”. I’ve already made my case on DrainBead (I think yesterday) and I do find her suspicious. > > As for LightFoot, honestly I don’t know. I haven’t had much of a read off of him so far, but letting his power be randed seems anti town. > LightFoot - did you know you were the roleblocker? > > Actually - does anyone have a vote count? LightFoot and LighterFeet is a HER!! Anyway LighterFeet, I think I am going to have to vote for you because I believe that you are the Scum Roleblocker! **Vote LighterFeet** And the rest of why I think you are scum is Metagaming BUT I think players can notice a difference from LF1 and LF2 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=270) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=272)