# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 272
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5422 "2011-09-16T18:18:31Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > I have: > > LightFoot (4): Precambrianmollusc (5335), lilflower (5337), Drain Bead (5346), Normal Phase (5373) > Drain Bead (1): Suburban Plankton (5341) > DonkTimesFour (1): septimus (5370) > Giraffe (1): Scathach (5413), LightFoot (5415) > Not voting: > > bufftabby (who has not posted at all Today, I believe) > Giraffe > Silver Jan > special ed Donkx4 should be in there somewhere although we don’t know if ‘he’ is going to vote toDay anyway (I don’t think e has yet) ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5423 "2011-09-16T18:23:01Z")
OK, just time for a quick post. Re: the suspicions regarding my not getting a chance to send in a target last Night. When I’d last read (skimmed) the thread, I didn’t see J.D. as confirmed Town, or I’d have sent in my target then. Someone suggested he may have been scum poisoning himself for Town cred, which seemed at least technically plausible since we had a demonstrated apothecary action on Drain Bead. So it didn’t seem obvious to me at that point that I should in fact heal someone I found a bit scummy. But mostly I just hadn’t made up my mind, thinking I’d have time online that I ended up not having. What can I say? When you’re on vacation with the wife and she wants to go drink and watch the sunset before dinner, the iPad stays in the case. I’m also highly skeptical of Scatach having a power that lets him target the same person on consecutive nights. If I am in fact the apothecary, then he is scum, so I wouldn’t argue very hard against my lynch on the grounds that trading a townie for a wolf is a great trade. Not sure about the current wagons, I’ll try to do some reading before voting… ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5424 "2011-09-16T18:28:22Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > No one seems to care that I did not choose my target last Night. (c’est la) I care, I just don’t beleive you. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5425 "2011-09-16T18:32:51Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I’m a she too btw Sorry :smack: You’d think I’d remember considering I’ve had to correct people myself! ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5426 "2011-09-16T18:33:30Z")
I tend to beleive Sacthatc because he was targeted - he had claimed apothecary. Giraffe was also soft claiming apothecary, but so far no one seams to have visited him last night. Scum would target a claimed apothecary, particularly when they know a confirmed town (JD) is going to die. I really want to know who Buff targeted and if anyone has been feeling warm glows. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5427 "2011-09-16T18:40:07Z")
Ok, I agree that Lightfoot2 looks a lot like a scum role blocker at this point. I am still leery of Scanach – if i die and flip apothecary, please kill him. I am also suspicious of Precambrian, just because I’m not liking the conclusions he jumps to, but that’s just a ping at this point. **Vote Lightfoot** Also, Scanach, whether you are in fact Town, I support Ed’s plan to poison me tonight. I can target myself and see if I am an apothecary or not. You should not heal me under any circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5428 "2011-09-16T18:47:10Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Scatach . > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Sacthatc > [@Giraffe](#): > > Scanach > [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Scathatch 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5429 "2011-09-16T18:48:05Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > LightFoot and LighterFeet is a HER!! > > Anyway LighterFeet, I think I am going to have to vote for you because I believe that you are the Scum Roleblocker! > > **Vote LighterFeet** > > And the rest of why I think you are scum is Metagaming BUT I think players can notice a difference from LF1 and LF2 Part of my problem as LF2 is that I was keeping track of what LF1 did and how others interacted with me the first days. When I became LF2 It was much harder for me to back track to see what my former selves did/didn’t do. (hell I’m not even sure how they voted) I can’t reference what LF1 ‘thought’ and I have no idea what those before me (LF2) ‘thought’. Entering a game as a sub where you are handed a role is much different than subbing into this game. \*\* Although I would love to know how over half of my targets seemed not effected at all by my visit? \*\* Town has good enough numbers right now that I think you will do fine without me . (I win with Town anyway) And might I add what a lovely wagon you are building so the players that aren’t very active don’t have to work very hard to get a vote in. (there have been too many days like this) - Real Life has changed quite a bit during this game too so there is a bit of that as well \* ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5430 "2011-09-16T18:50:42Z")
I haven’t read til the end but “he” is generic, It makes me mad when all the he, she, him goes on, for goodness sake!! It’s lke the same as “we are Mankind” should we be humankind. Anyway I got that out of my system so if anyone wants to nail me about their gender when they have a genderless name, Tough TITIES ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5431 "2011-09-16T18:55:04Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > Part of my problem as LF2 is that I was keeping track of what LF1 did and how others interacted with me the first days. > When I became LF2 It was much harder for me to back track to see what my former selves did/didn’t do. (hell I’m not even sure how they voted) I can’t reference what LF1 ‘thought’ and I have no idea what those before me (LF2) ‘thought’. Entering a game as a sub where you are handed a role is much different than subbing into this game. > \*\* > Although I would love to know how over half of my targets seemed not effected at all by my visit? \*\* > Town has good enough numbers right now that I think you will do fine without me . (I win with Town anyway) > > And might I add what a lovely wagon you are building so the players that aren’t very active don’t have to work very hard to get a vote in. (there have been too many days like this) > > - Real Life has changed quite a bit during this game too so there is a bit of that as well \* I am only voting for you cos you are sooo different and I believe you are the scum roleblocker ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5432 "2011-09-16T18:58:07Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I haven’t read til the end but “he” is generic, It makes me mad when all the he, she, him goes on, for goodness sake!! It’s lke the same as “we are Mankind” should we be humankind. Anyway I got that out of my system so if anyone wants to nail me about their gender when they have a genderless name, Tough TITIES Fair point - maybe we should all go Scuba\_Ben’s way and use neutral pronouns like e. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5433 "2011-09-16T19:06:26Z")
Anyway, enough fluff. I’ve revealed everything I know with regards to role/targets at this point, so now it’s just suspicions. DrainBead - Why did Idle Thoughts investigate you and claim he didn’t? It’s not conclusive, but I think it’s reasonable to think that maybe LightFoot - Why on earth let the mod rand a roleblocking power? Just why? Incidentally - has anyone considered that maybe scum thought JD was the doctor? He hadn’t posted a list of targets as I recall either, and was keeping fairly quiet. Scum DrainBead and scum Lightfoot could have both targeted me to prevent me from healing the doctor in case one of them got roleblocked? Giraffe - Apothecary claim. Also have you posted a full target list? Did you also target Idle Thoughts the night before he “felt healthy”? Why weren’t you blocked to stop you healing JD? lilflower/normal phase/septimus/buftabby- no idea. Suburban Plankton and PCM - towny vibe I think. Special ed & Silver jan - stronger towny vibe. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5434 "2011-09-16T19:19:15Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Anyway, enough fluff. I’ve revealed everything I know with regards to role/targets at this point, so now it’s just suspicions. > > DrainBead - Why did Idle Thoughts investigate you and claim he didn’t? It’s not conclusive, but I think it’s reasonable to think that maybe > LightFoot - Why on earth let the mod rand a roleblocking power? Just why? > > Incidentally - has anyone considered that maybe scum thought JD was the doctor? He hadn’t posted a list of targets as I recall either, and was keeping fairly quiet. Scum DrainBead and scum Lightfoot could have both targeted me to prevent me from healing the doctor in case one of them got roleblocked? > > Giraffe - Apothecary claim. Also have you posted a full target list? Did you also target Idle Thoughts the night before he “felt healthy”? Why weren’t you blocked to stop you healing JD? > > lilflower/normal phase/septimus/buftabby- no idea. > Suburban Plankton and PCM - towny vibe I think. > Special ed & Silver jan - stronger towny vibe. Only one of my targets had reported being role blocked (ed). I really didn’t think I was a roleblocker. I still am not sure what it is I do? Since DB bounced the “healing power” back on the “healer” I’m still not certain I had anything to do with that block? ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5435 "2011-09-16T19:22:59Z")
Hmm, that’s reasonably plausible. I will say that my PM this morning definitely made reference to my night action not occuring. I didn’t feel healthy which is what I would expect if Drain Bead alone targeted me. Maybe other people just didn’t report it. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5436 "2011-09-16T19:24:54Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Please don’t kill me toNight. Bite me. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5437 "2011-09-16T19:28:49Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > 😃 hangs head in poor typing/brain function shame. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5438 "2011-09-16T19:31:01Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > hangs head in poor typing/brain function shame. Nah - it’s cool, Irish is difficult to spell. (Although scathatch sounds vaguely unsanitary…) ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5439 "2011-09-16T19:47:24Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Hmm, that’s reasonably plausible. > > I will say that my PM this morning definitely made reference to my night action not occuring. I didn’t feel healthy which is what I would expect if Drain Bead alone targeted me. > > Maybe other people just didn’t report it. But people I didn’t target (and Jan says she didn’t either) claim to have been blocked. The redirector could not have used me as a ping pong ball 2 nights in a row. And I wonder why you didn’t feel healthy? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5440 "2011-09-16T19:53:28Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > Giraffe - Apothecary claim. Also have you posted a full target list? Did you also target Idle Thoughts the night before he “felt healthy”? Why weren’t you blocked to stop you healing JD? Dear catsnatch, 😃 I have posted all my targets throughout the thread. I have seen no correlation to anyone saying they felt healthy, glowing, happy, sad, etc. The only reason I’ve posited my being an apothecary is I expect there to be one in a game with a Poisoner, and it’s the only role I know of that would explain my complete lack of results (apart from Drain Bead’s healing) My current theory is that both town and scum have poisoner and apothecary roles, and you’re the scum one. But I can’t be sure I even am one at this point, so I’m ok waiting for more data. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/5441 "2011-09-16T19:57:19Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > And I wonder why you didn’t feel healthy? If you’re implying that I didn’t feel healthy because I’m not the apothecary, that’s one thing. But nevertheless my PM said I was stopped from doing my night action. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=271) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=273)