# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 35

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/682 "2011-08-18T19:16:15Z")

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> [@TimeLady](#):
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> There was a wolf that was a mason though, so it’s should not be immediately clearing.

I’m not dealing well with this at all. It’s like yucky chalk screeches.  
What’s the point of masons if they aren’t all town? Why call them Masons? Why not call them something else so as to not create needless confusion?  
I don’t have a good feeling about this game.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/683 "2011-08-18T19:17:10Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Role-blocker is an example whose action is detected by target; are there others? It would be nice to read of examples of the special roles in Mystery Mafia. Is there a good link? (I do NOT have the time or energy to read through a whole game.)
> 
> Anyway, your post did recommend N1 self-targeting for those who didn’t on N0, and that _would_ be a way for Town Vigs to self-destruct, so I’ll leave my vote on you for now.

There’s one in post #2, if someone hasn’t already directed you to it. 🙂 Also see my moderator note about the other game sometime in the last few pages (cliffs: fine to talk about the kind of roles that game had, but don’t quote role PMs from there and don’t assume that any particular role will be the same here).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/684 "2011-08-18T19:18:47Z")

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> [@Krayz](#):
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> that’s my spam for the day. Hopefully I’ll be on later.
> 
> **vote: mahaloth**
> 
> I really look like I’m completely level 0 here,and just retaliating for the vote on me, but I honestly think he’s the most scummy player itt so far.
> 
> plox don’t lynch me.

What? Can you explain? i have no idea what you are trying to say. You clearly are just OMGUSing. Very clearly. And saying that you aren’t and having minor qualifier doesn’t make it not so.

😕

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/685 "2011-08-18T19:18:48Z")

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I’m interested in the vote count; I’ll be around off and on all day, and I heard somewhere that we _do not_ want a tie. It might be time for some of the outlier voters–like me–to consider a more mainstream vote.

> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> (hah, I said debacle)

(I don’t say that word anymore, ever.)

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/686 "2011-08-18T19:19:16Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> ha ha ha! that’s **Sister Coyote**. not laughing at your mistake though. sounds like a religious name but she’s far from holy. she can be quite evil. 😃
> 
> _runs from Sister Coyote_

I have a special role in mind _just for you_ the next time I run a game… 😛

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**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/687 "2011-08-18T19:19:26Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Oh, and the Seer thing. If fake-peeking is now supposed to be any sort of get out of lynch free card (or so much as a reason to even _consider_ not voting someone), I refuse to sign up. If its purpose is to WIFOM the scum, then it must remain there. As soon as it starts taking aim at the town it starts being a bad idea. I don’t know if this is also a cultural difference or just an excuse not to really fully consider a vote for Kraz, but it rubs me all kinds of wrong.

It isn’t a get out of lynch free card, it just particularly disturbs me because I KNOW FOR A FACT that his peek is correct, whether it’s fake or real. Although I’m willing to accept that not wanting to lynch someone who has fakepeeked me is a huge leak because it’s so incredibly exploitable by scum, but it’s tough when you know it could be geniune.

> [@Episkey](#):
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> I think I want to clear you for this though. Any idea why?

hmmmmmm _thinking cap_

Because as a wolf I’d just say “ooooOOOOO, goot post, Episkey clear, masons?”

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/688 "2011-08-18T19:19:57Z")

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> [@Silver\_Jan](#):
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> But quite a funny too, maybe it’s just my sense of humour about tricking everyone into a mass suicide.

You and TimeLady should get along famously.

(I haven’t read past this point, but I assume that I’ve got a slow pony. Even so; if it’s already been said, it needs to be said again.)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/689 "2011-08-18T19:20:00Z")

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Oh, and I did not bleach it. My bad.

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/690 "2011-08-18T19:22:33Z")

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> [@Krayz](#):
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> already said my fakepeek was dancecat donuts

> [@Krayz](#):
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> liessssssssss

> [@Krayz](#):
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> a man after my own heart \<3

> [@Krayz](#):
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> I thought providing little reason is a villager meta here.
> 
> oops!
> 
> you got me.
> 
> butnahhhhhhhhh

> [@Krayz](#):
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> krayonz is a great nickname, thanks.
> 
> u mad?

> [@Krayz](#):
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> you quoted a post saying that I wasn’t just going after people who were voting for peek, and then you accuse me of going after people who are going for peek and vote me for it? k.

Welp, found what everyone was referring to. I probably should just read and catch up before making any comments in the future.

Dancecat, this is what you found weird? This is 100x less weird than the random “hes a villager” posts from Krayz. This is basically “come at me wolves” Krayz.

> [@Krayz](#):
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> I’m really confused here. You are pushing me as a wolf for doing things I’ve always done on 2+2. I am quite willing to retract my villager read on you atm after this quite honestly.
> 
> I’m in the middle of moving to grad school and posting in extremely small windows when I have time, and it’s straight up wrong that I’m not a hardworking villager here. I’ve made more reads posts than you ffs.

And he explains the reason for his lack of spamming the thread up too

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**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/691 "2011-08-18T19:23:15Z")

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> [@SisterCoyote](#):
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> But then, I’m paranoid enough that I don’t even trust claimed Masons until one of them is dead, so take that for what it’s worth.

:eek:

Wow.

I have never seen this before. I don’t want to derail from more relevant discussions at hand, but I would like to speak with you more about this sometime.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/692 "2011-08-18T19:24:44Z")

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> [@TimeLady](#):
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> nono, do not rule out masons
> 
> in the last game there were maybe a pool or 5 or 6 people who were designated (masons). each Night they would target someone and if they hit another mason they would be able to talk, and were able to continue targetting other people in order to increase the masonry size.

And there’s one of the discussions about the possibility of masons. I don’t consider the idea an assumption, more like an outlier possibility.

Like all other roles, we have to allow the possibility until we know what roles definitely exist and everybody is accounted for.

> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Because scum worry about looking townie because they aren’t, and Town don’t worry about looking Townie because they are.

I worry about looking Townie because I often come across as Scum. And I have never started a game as Scum. (I once subbed in as one, though.)

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/693 "2011-08-18T19:24:51Z")

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**UPDATED VOTE COUNT**

Through post #689

TexCat (4): Inner Stickler [473], lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636]  
Krayz (3): Drain Bead [489], Meeko [493], [del]Scuba\_Ben [498][/del], Mahaloth [540]  
peekercpa (3): Giraffe [301], [del]special ed [313][/del], NAF1138 [337], [del]Scuba\_Ben [379][/del], Silver Jan [484]  
Dancecat (3): Idle Thoughts [72], [del]Giraffe [250][/del], Normal Phase [497], Scathach [604]  
Silver Jan (3): special ed [487], DanceCat [513], Episkey [617]  
TimeLady (2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
Giraffe (2): [del]special ed [51][/del], peekercpa [286], Krayz [418]  
Mahaloth (2): bufftabby [564], Krayz [597]  
MykBot (1): [del]Zeriel [21][/del], [del]TimeLady [24][/del], [del]TexCat [459][/del], septimus [601]  
Scathach (1): GuiriEnEspaña [359]  
LightFoot (1): Zeriel [375]  
septimus (1): Askthepizzaguy [477]  
lilflower (1): TexCat [521]  
special ed (1): SisterCoyote [562]  
Suburban Plankton (1): Scuba\_Ben [572]  
SisterCoyote (1): TimeLady [648]  
Idle Thoughts (0): [del]Krayz [86][/del]  
GuiriEnEspaña (0): [del]Drain Bead [386][/del]  
NAF1138 (0): [del]Dancecat [53][/del], [del]Blaster Master [520][/del]  
Please PM me with any corrections! Night in ~3.5 hours.

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**Author:** ![Episkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Episkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Episkey)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/694 "2011-08-18T19:24:59Z")

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> [@Dancecat](#):
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> \<snipped\>  
> hmmmmmm _thinking cap_
> 
> Because as a wolf I’d just say “ooooOOOOO, goot post, Episkey clear, masons?”

Kind of, but why do I think that’d be the case?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/695 "2011-08-18T19:25:42Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Role-blocker is an example whose action is detected by target; are there others?

Maybe, maybe not. Roleblockers that is. I don’t think we can assume that someone roleblocked will know that they were blocked. Sometimes the mod tells them, and sometimes they don’t.

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**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/696 "2011-08-18T19:28:28Z")

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> [@Episkey](#):
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> Kind of, but why do I think that’d be the case?

I’m afraid I don’t quite see what you’re getting at beyond the obvious. A POG wolf in this game would want to buddy up to POG villagers, but I think I’m missing your point. ☹

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/697 "2011-08-18T19:29:08Z")

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> [@SisterCoyote](#):
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> I have a special role in mind _just for you_ the next time I run a game… 😛

gah, i don’t know whether to be excited or afraid.:eek:

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**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/698 "2011-08-18T19:29:28Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Maybe, maybe not. Roleblockers that is. I don’t think we can assume that someone roleblocked will know that they were blocked. Sometimes the mod tells them, and sometimes they don’t.

If this game is anything like the last, blocked targets would not be informed that their action was unsuccessful.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/699 "2011-08-18T19:30:06Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> gah, i don’t know whether to be excited or afraid.:eek:

I think you should be afraid lol

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/700 "2011-08-18T19:32:02Z")

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**CORRECTED VOTE COUNT**

Through post #699

TexCat (4): Inner Stickler [473], lilflower [494], MykBot [586], gnarlycharlie [636]  
Krayz (3): Drain Bead [489], Meeko [493], [del]Scuba\_Ben [498][/del], Mahaloth [540]  
peekercpa (3): Giraffe [301], [del]special ed [313][/del], NAF1138 [337], [del]Scuba\_Ben [379][/del], Silver Jan [484]  
Dancecat (3): Idle Thoughts [72], [del]Giraffe [250][/del], Normal Phase [497], Scathach [604]  
Silver Jan (3): special ed [487], DanceCat [513], Episkey [617]  
TimeLady (2): sachertorte [211], Suburban Plankton [352]  
Mahaloth (2): bufftabby [564], Krayz [597]  
Giraffe (1): [del]special ed [51][/del], peekercpa [286], [del]Krayz [418][/del]  
MykBot (1): [del]Zeriel [21][/del], [del]TimeLady [24][/del], [del]TexCat [459][/del], septimus [601]  
Scathach (1): GuiriEnEspaña [359]  
LightFoot (1): Zeriel [375]  
septimus (1): Askthepizzaguy [477]  
lilflower (1): TexCat [521]  
special ed (1): SisterCoyote [562]  
Suburban Plankton (1): Scuba\_Ben [572]  
SisterCoyote (1): TimeLady [648]  
Idle Thoughts (0): [del]Krayz [86][/del]  
GuiriEnEspaña (0): [del]Drain Bead [386][/del]  
NAF1138 (0): [del]Dancecat [53][/del], [del]Blaster Master [520][/del]  
Please PM me with any corrections! Night in ~3.5 hours.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/701 "2011-08-18T19:32:05Z")

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I am off to bed so I will not make EOD. No wine tonight I’m afraid.

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