# Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025 "2011-08-17T14:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/742 "2011-08-18T20:13:58Z")
I’m going to: **Vote Peeker** Krayz, peeker, dancecat, silver, or tex cat is a wolf imo becaus of wagons. I don’t want to lynch tex for reasons stated above, I have no clue about the case on silver, and I feel like krayz’s fakepeek is villagery and there’s a non-zero chance he could be a seer and his claim of dance is true. I think that possibility is admittedly remote, but it’s still a better villa case for them than I have at all for peeker. Additionally, peekers early wagon steam has begun to fall off. Don’t know the tendency of this boards wolf teams, but bussing a fellow wolf early and then backing off of him later in the day is completely in the wheel house of poggers. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/743 "2011-08-18T20:14:30Z")
AFK until Night, I think. I might have time to read but not post. Will keep my vote in place barring unforeseen circumstances and time to find out about them. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/744 "2011-08-18T20:15:24Z")
And apparently my choice of blue is shitty. **Peeker** To make it clearer Gaderene: I double voted because of the color, don’t count it twice imo. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/745 "2011-08-18T20:16:31Z")
Krayz and texcat are also the only of the top 5 wagons without another wagon candidate voting for them. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/746 "2011-08-18T20:16:47Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > And apparently my choice of blue is shitty. > > **Peeker** > > To make it clearer > > Gaderene: I double voted because of the color, don’t count it twice imo. Putting anything in Carolina Blue is a modkillable offense ldo (don’t sweat it) ---
**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/747 "2011-08-18T20:17:10Z")
> [@Episkey](#): > > Tell me if this makes sense: > > As town, you’d be pretty skeptical of me when I post because you don’t know my role and you know I’m a somewhat capable wolf. So when I make a post like that one which showcases my logical reasoning for deciding you and Giraffe are town leans for me, you say something similar to what you said “This is a good post, but I’m never clearing you for making sense because I’ve seen it in both roles”. What you posted makes complete sense as town with your knowledge of my play. > > As scum though, I think you look at that post and say to yourself “That post is completely logical despite its incorrect conclusion (because you’d be scum in this example ldo)”. So you’d tell me as such (minus the incorrect conclusion part obv) and not try to keep me from having any suspicions about my conclusions: by giving me a pretty heavy town lean from it. > Cliffs: > When you know my role you’ll see a logical post and give me a lean for it but when you don’t know my role you’ll see it but remain skeptical. Right you are. Now can I clear you yet? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dancecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Dancecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancecat)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/748 "2011-08-18T20:18:28Z")
Will someone please tell me the case on Texcat in 100 words or less? None of his posts really stuck out to me (but then again, sometimes it’s the “meh” ones that end up getting me). ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/749 "2011-08-18T20:20:13Z")
I should add the Episkey put on probably the most memorable wolf performance I’ve seen. You probably shouldn’t clear him at all until he’s claimed by a seer. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/750 "2011-08-18T20:21:22Z")
> [@Dancecat](#): > > Will someone please tell me the case on Texcat in 100 words or less? None of his posts really stuck out to me (but then again, sometimes it’s the “meh” ones that end up getting me). I think he’s a villager for a couple of reasons, and the same with krayz. I don’t like when I have village leans on the top two wagons. Get on peeker with me imo. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/751 "2011-08-18T20:22:04Z")
I’m at a loss about the whole Peeker thing. He started with coherence - which has been pointed out - is not like a villager peeker. Then, when challanged, became his usual abrasive, babbling self. I’m not interested in essay bets, BTW. So, either he is town and is just back on the vicodin and vodka diet, or he’s scum and playing his usual self to hide his “scum tell”. I put that in quotes, because I don’t necessarily believe it’s the case. Of course, it’s all a WIFOM case and have no idea what to make of it as of yet. So, stinky smelly FOS, but not enough for a vote. This, however: > [@SisterCoyote](#): > > I got so far behind on the game it isn’t even funny. Yikes. > > That said, I’m inclined to agree with **NAF** that something feels not quite right about **Ed’s** play, particularly the response to **Jan**. > > So I’m going to plunk my vote down on **Special Ed**. I don’t like it. Latching on to someone else’s reasoning gives her an out if Ed turns up town. Hey, it was Naf’s idea after all! And the reasoning of “just not quite right” is pretty weak to begin with. **Vote Sister Coyote** ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/752 "2011-08-18T20:22:22Z")
I could also be easily persuaded to go with silver, I just have yet to read him at all. AND WTF AT THIS 60 SECOND THING. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/753 "2011-08-18T20:23:42Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Voting someone for a bad idea = null tell, especially on Day One. Yes, voting krayz for a series of lolwolf posts is a much stronger case. ---
**Author:** ![crackedquads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@crackedquads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crackedquads)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/754 "2011-08-18T20:24:14Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > I’m at a loss about the whole Peeker thing. He started with coherence - which has been pointed out - is not like a villager peeker. Then, when challanged, became his usual abrasive, babbling self. I’m not interested in essay bets, BTW. So, either he is town and is just back on the vicodin and vodka diet, or he’s scum and playing his usual self to hide his “scum tell”. I put that in quotes, because I don’t necessarily believe it’s the case. Of course, it’s all a WIFOM case and have no idea what to make of it as of yet. So, stinky smelly FOS, but not enough for a vote. > > This, however: > > I don’t like it. Latching on to someone else’s reasoning gives her an out if Ed turns up town. Hey, it was Naf’s idea after all! And the reasoning of “just not quite right” is pretty weak to begin with. > > **Vote Sister Coyote** I like it but there’s literally 6 larger, close wagons at this point. Could you please help consolidate on one of them instead of creating another late wagon? ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/755 "2011-08-18T20:26:16Z")
Geez, I voted at the bottom of page 14. I should have refreshed first. I gotta read this page and see if that changes anything. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/756 "2011-08-18T20:28:26Z")
> [@crackedquads](#): > > Think I just found a wolf: > > {quotes gnarlycharlie multiple times} > > That’s all of his posts. So much crap, no wolf hunting. Touches on a few random players but his reasons are just summaries of what others have said. > > I don’t know how you guys feel about CFD’s (Chinese Fire Drills, lynching a random player late in the day), so I won’t really push this, but just keep note of him. > > I do think because of the wagon sizes there is a decent chance a wolf is a wagon, so a current lead wagon dying is fine by me. At the very least I’m not lynching texcat with him because I feel like gnarly is a wolf and his poor excuse for a texcat lynch is trying to save one of the other wagons. I’ll have to think about that, **crackedquads**. You make a good point that **gnarlycharlie** isn’t being helpful. I’m not big on switching my vote onto em this late in the Day – Tomorrow, OTOH, that’s a good place to start. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/757 "2011-08-18T20:29:15Z")
I am going to vote for people who bitch about the 60 seconds thing. It’s there, once was enough. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/758 "2011-08-18T20:29:55Z")
I guess nobody saw my question. Not really important anyway, but we used to have a theory in some games (well, some swore by it…others didn’t) that “Third vote is scum”. The idea behind it was that placing a third vote on someone is neither being one of the very first (instigator) or very last (bandwagoner) votes, thus staying out of the public eye and trying to “blend” in with the other votes subtly. As I said, we’ve had some players swear by it and actually use it as a reason to cast a vote. And, too, we’ve had countless discussion and debates over it. So I was just curious as to whether the new (to here) people have ever experienced that discussion? * * * Just so gameplay/strategizing doesn’t halt and become just about my question: Sayth **Crackedquads** : > [@](#): > > Additionally, peekers early wagon steam has begun to fall off. Don’t know the tendency of this boards wolf teams, but bussing a fellow wolf early and then backing off of him later in the day is completely in the wheel house of poggers. To me–and that has been the experience I’ve seen the most–the beginning and then falling off of an initial (one of the first, if not THE first) bandwagon is usually a nulltell. In many cases an early bandwagon that grew strong then ebbed were actual Townies, but I can remember a few of them turning out to be scum later. I wouldn’t put too much faith in it myself, but YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/759 "2011-08-18T20:30:00Z")
OOG, we all complain about the 60 seconds thing. I believe I said earlier Today “get used to it.” ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/760 "2011-08-18T20:30:54Z")
And if you really hate it, [www.idlemafia.com](http://www.idlemafia.com) and [www.giraffeboards.com](http://www.giraffeboards.com). You are all too late for the sign ups on the most recent GB game, but there are sign ups for a game at idlemafia. No 60 second buffer, it’s got skins, seperate threads for each Day/Night. It’s a nice forum. Come on over. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025/761 "2011-08-18T20:32:34Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I guess nobody saw my question. > Not really important anyway, but we used to have a theory in some games (well, some swore by it…others didn’t) that “Third vote is scum”. > The idea behind it was that placing a third vote on someone is neither being one of the very first (instigator) or very last (bandwagoner) votes, thus staying out of the public eye and trying to “blend” in with the other votes subtly. Well, let’s not bring it up again for about 3 Days. By then the otherboarders will have forgotten about this exchange and it will be valid for them again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-mafia-game-thread/593025.md?page=39)