# Mystery pooper in deep doo-doo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 3, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527 "2018-05-03T17:48:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/41 "2018-05-04T21:36:40Z")

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In my early years on the Dope there was a thread I’ve lost the link to. It was about the worst restroom you’d ever actually used. One person found a dead guy in a stall!:eek: I’ve tried to find that thread but failed.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/42 "2018-05-04T21:37:37Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I’m guessing many places don’t have a specific law against public defecation/urination so they have to charge them with whatever even vaguely fits.

They do, they charged him with public defecation and littering also. I can accept those, but “lewdness” is bogus.

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**Author:** ![Wallet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e99b99/32.png) [@Wallet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallet)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/43 "2018-05-04T22:32:30Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I can proudly say that in my entire k-12 career, I never once used a school restroom.

We had a serial pooper in the boys’ room at the school I taught in. We would find poop smeared all over the bathroom, and could never catch the culprit. The stench could be overwhelming, wafting down hallways and into classrooms. The teacher who had the room next door finally had enough, and after hearing kids yelling about poop he raced in there with a video camera to catch the poop-itrators in action. The camera wasn’t even turned on, he just wanted to scare them.

Sadly, a teacher saw him with the camera and called the Office of Special Investigations. The teacher in question was forced to retire, and 2 years later was brought up on charges of… I’m not sure, being a pervert? If you google his name today all the results reference his perversion towards children.

This man had taught for many years, and was a pastor. In all the years I knew him, he _never_ did anything to warrant this charge. He did a stupid thing, yes, but the almost daily stench of poop literally drove him to have a major lapse of judgment.

We never did catch the pooper.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/44 "2018-05-05T05:01:12Z")

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Maybe it’s the lingering juvenile in me, but Phantom Shitters are NEVER not funny.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/45 "2018-05-05T12:33:54Z")

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By that statement I assume you never had to clean up after one.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/46 "2018-05-05T15:35:05Z")

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I can’t stop wondering “Why?” why on Earth? The jogging thing is a pretty good theory. It would make even more sense if at some point he’d tried to get bathroom facilities installed down there.

I remember an apartment that I lived in where they kept finding poop near the back door lobby. Folks all looked toward the lady with the big german shepherd,and just assumed that she was n’t walking him on rainy days or something.

But it turned out that one of the guys was selling crack. Apparently, when you smoke crack it causes almost immediate pooping. I wonder if the pooperintendent’s dealer was working from under the bleachers?

Or he is seriously batshit insane.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/47 "2018-05-05T17:36:12Z")

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‘Pooperintendent’ hah! Now that’s funny!🙂

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/48 "2018-05-07T03:05:43Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I can’t stop wondering “Why?” why on Earth? The jogging thing is a pretty good theory. It would make even more sense if at some point he’d tried to get bathroom facilities installed down there.

It wasn’t **his** school - he just used a local school track to run and crap.

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**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/49 "2018-05-07T08:04:51Z")

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As of a few years ago, at least, there was a [mystery pooper in Norway](https://sports.vice.com/en_ca/article/jp7bnb/someone-has-been-shitting-in-the-holes-of-a-norwegian-golf-course-for-ten-years), too. So New Jerseyites shouldn’t feel special.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/50 "2018-05-07T12:51:01Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> I spent a decade in public education and every superintendent of my acquaintance was pretty much a psychopath.

There are plenty of school principals who fit that description, none better than the late Jay C. Smith of Upper Merion Township High School in Pennsylvania, renowned for his interest in bestiality, nitric acid, armed robbery of Sears stores and alleged role in multiple murders/disappearances. On his death, he received this touching eulogy from his “biographer”, Joseph Wambaugh:

_“I do not celebrate the death of any man, but Satan does,” Mr. Wambaugh repeated in an e-mail message yesterday. “A No. 1 draft pick has finally arrived.”"_

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> Now, at the tail end of my first year on the Principal’s _stool_

Oh, ick.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/51 "2018-05-07T12:52:23Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> In DC, a jogger is pooping in public and leaving a dead rat next to his display. Witnesses have described him as “somewhat handsome.” [There Was No Way I Could Not Post This. NO WAY. Sorry in advance. - PoPville](https://www.popville.com/2018/04/im-not-sorry/)

This is a recurring thing? Where does a guy find _multiple_ dead rats, let alone _a_ dead rat???

If it’s poopy performance art you seek, I’ll nominate the person(s) who regularly planted [tiny George Bush flags into piles of dog poop in Germany.](https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2005/03/21/17287171.php)

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/52 "2018-05-07T14:05:46Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> This is a recurring thing? Where does a guy find _multiple_ dead rats, let alone _a_ dead rat???

In DC, just walk down the SW waterfront or poke around a bit in just about any alley.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/53 "2018-05-08T17:56:02Z")

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In college. some guys did a gang crap in the stall that was understood to be for peeing only (I don’t even think it had a seat). The pile was inhuman, breaking the plane of the bowl lip. The dorm maintenance guy refused to clean it. If memory serves, our RA made us all chip in and “bribe” the guy to clean it with the understanding that any repeat would be left there forever,

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/54 "2019-05-02T14:08:11Z")

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The [DEL]poop[/DEL] plot thickens!

> [@](#):
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> [Former New Jersey school superintendent caught pooping on athletic field files lawsuit against cops for ‘leaking’ mug shot](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-school-superintendent-lawsuit-pooping-mug-shot-20190501-wgbqnrpsnjallgtsfud26wxxpe-story.html)
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> …Thomas Tramaglini alleges that members of the Holmdel Township Police Department took and leaked the photograph “with the intent to harm and damage” him under circumstances where they had no legal right to do so.
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> The lawsuit states that booking mug shots “are expressly prohibited” in New Jersey for such low level, “non-criminal” offenses. Tramaglini pleaded guilty to public defecation and was fined $500.
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> In addition, Tramaglini was “unlawfully” taken into custody on May 1, 2018, without being issued a Miranda warning, according to the lawsuit. It also notes that he was cited for two alleged violations of non-criminal municipal ordinances and was not, in fact, arrested…

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/55 "2019-05-02T14:35:52Z")

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And shit.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/56 "2019-05-02T15:11:48Z")

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When I worked in rental property management, I estimated that about a third of evicted tenants left a poop somewhere in the place. And I bet they all thought it was so original.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/57 "2019-05-02T18:07:52Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The [DEL]poop[/DEL] plot thickens!

My understanding is that Miranda rights are not actually required per se. They are only required if they want to use their statements in court. In other words, until you are told that “any statement can and will be used against you in a court of law,” they in fact cannot be.

I also note that, [according to NJ.com back in February](https://www.nj.com/news/2019/02/pooping-superintendents-life-has-been-ruined-and-cops-are-responsible-says-lawyer.html):

(No statewide directive on mugshots exists and individual municipalities and counties handle their release differently. Executive Order 69 says that the following should not be public record: “fingerprint cards, plates and photographs and similar criminal investigation records that are required to be made, maintained or kept by any State or local governmental agency.” A 2013 bill that would have banned the release of mugshots prior to conviction passed the N.J. State Assembly, but was never brought to a vote in the Senate.)

That it’s taken him 3 months to find someone to sue, plus the above info, makes it seem like rather a weak case to this non-lawyer.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/58 "2019-05-02T19:58:49Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The [DEL]poop[/DEL] plot thickens!
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> > [@](#):
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> > [Former New Jersey school superintendent caught pooping on athletic field files lawsuit against cops for ‘leaking’ mug shot](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-school-superintendent-lawsuit-pooping-mug-shot-20190501-wgbqnrpsnjallgtsfud26wxxpe-story.html)
> > 
> > …Thomas Tramaglini alleges that members of the Holmdel Township Police Department took and leaked the photograph “with the intent to harm and damage” him under circumstances where they had no legal right to do so.
> > 
> > The lawsuit states that booking mug shots “are expressly prohibited” in New Jersey for such low level, “non-criminal” offenses. Tramaglini pleaded guilty to public defecation and was fined $500.
> > 
> > In addition, Tramaglini was “unlawfully” taken into custody on May 1, 2018, without being issued a Miranda warning, according to the lawsuit. It also notes that he was cited for two alleged violations of non-criminal municipal ordinances and was not, in fact, arrested…

A thunder mug shot would have been more appropriate…

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mystery-pooper-in-deep-doo-doo/813527/59 "2019-05-03T23:07:16Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> There’s a female Doper on here who has told the story of the poop-smearer in her office who also used her menstrual blood when the time was right. (Hey, where’ the vomit smiley?) Most people in the office knew who was doing this, and it took several YEARS to catch her.

I’m pretty sure it was not me who told that story, but something like that did happen in my office. Dear lord. How common is this shit?

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