# NAACP makes "more money off of race than any slave trader ever" comment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856 "2010-07-16T00:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/21 "2010-07-16T02:14:56Z")
If only we lived in a post-corporatist society. Le sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/22 "2010-07-16T02:16:47Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > In other words, you are a fucking idiot. You don’t know what “federalism” means, do you? You don’t know who the abolitionists were, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/23 "2010-07-16T02:21:22Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > You don’t know who the abolitionists were, do you? What do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/24 "2010-07-16T03:40:39Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Do you really think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have anything left to say? Do you? Seriously, I’ve seen your posts in maybe a half-dozen threads in my entire time here, and yet I had a hunch you’d be dropping by. You’re just as novel as the two of them. * * * Re the OP, I don’t consider myself an offenderati by any stretch, but saying the NAACP makes more money off of race than any slave trader ever is fucking vile. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/25 "2010-07-16T03:45:29Z")
> [@quixotic78](#): > > Re the OP, I don’t consider myself an offenderati by any stretch, but saying the NAACP makes more money off of race than any slave trader ever is fucking vile. Or that it belongs on a trash heap. He seems to have no clue about the historical time frame in which it started or its contributions and those of its members to the Civil Rights movement and honestly seems to think that now Jim Crow is over and Obama’s president that everything’s fine and they should disband. Since guns are legal I wonder if he thinks the same of the NRA. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/26 "2010-07-16T04:44:02Z")
Tea partiers as abolitionists? I had them pegged as Know-Nothings (some of whom were abolitionist), myself. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/27 "2010-07-16T08:47:53Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > What do you mean? Is that a “no?” ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/28 "2010-07-16T12:38:39Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nah, color you stupid, more like. > > Do you really think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have anything left to say? No, I just think you’re an asshole. But you’re kind of amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/29 "2010-07-16T13:02:59Z")
Because I dislike rephrasing what someone else has already said perfectly, I will quote an unlikely source for perfect agreement with me: [Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/14/AR2010071404217.html), in yesterday’s column: > [@](#): > > The minute you say there are racist elements in the Tea Party – reflected in signs at rallies, billboards and speeches from some of its major figures – the pushback goes from cries of persecution to charges that those who are criticizing divisiveness are themselves the dividers. > > So let’s dispense with the obvious: Most of the opposition to President Obama comes from people who are against his policies, not his race. The Tea Party is motivated primarily by right-wing ideology, not by racism. > > But guess what? Nothing the NAACP is saying contradicts this. Its contention is that there are clearly racist strains in the Tea Party and that the movement’s leaders and the politicians who profit from its activism should denounce them plainly and unequivocally. > . > . > . > The NAACP is doing what conservatives have done for decades in demanding that liberals and progressives separate themselves from left-wing extremists who trashed America, burned flags and praised foreign dictators. The racists are the Tea Party’s flag-burners. It’s fair to ask the democratic left to condemn extremism. It’s fair to ask the same of the democratic right. (Note the small “d.”) > > When I reached Jealous by telephone, he went out of his way to emphasize that his group is not making a blanket charge of racism. “We have never called the Tea Party racist,” he said. “We know there are black Tea Party members, and we want black people to feel comfortable taking leadership positions in all parties in this country.” > > But speaking of Tea Party leaders, he added: “We’ve seen the signs, we’ve heard the slurs, and all we’re asking is for you to act responsibly and say there’s no space for bigots in the Tea Party.” I concur completely. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/30 "2010-07-16T13:08:31Z")
_“We don’t cotton”? “We don’t cotton”?_ You bet we don’t cotton, YOU MUTHA-FUCKIN’ RACIST! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/31 "2010-07-16T13:14:47Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Because they’re foursquare in favor of expanding the laws of the federal government to promote equality. “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” -Anatole France ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/32 "2010-07-16T13:26:42Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > _“We don’t cotton”? “We don’t cotton”?_ You bet we don’t cotton, YOU MUTHA-FUCKIN’ RACIST! Dude that said that was black, right? I agree completely with the article **Bricker** posted. Leaders of the Tea Party should openly declare that there’s no room in their party for racists and homophobes. They won’t though, because it obviously will thin their ranks too much. God, what has the Republican Party become? I simply cannot believe the transformation. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/33 "2010-07-16T13:54:48Z")
I’m utterly astonished that, in 2010, people can still be so incredibly tone deaf. Unless, of course, we posit that Williams is actually spot-on, tone-wise, for his party. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/34 "2010-07-16T13:59:52Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I’m utterly astonished that, in 2010, people can still be so incredibly tone deaf. > > Unless, of course, we posit that Williams is actually spot-on, tone-wise, for his party. Well, he meant “not adjusted for inflation,” obviously. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/35 "2010-07-16T14:27:21Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nah, color you stupid, more like. > > Do you really think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have anything left to say? Looking around at America, **Hell, yeah,** they do! When the race you’re born into is no longer in any way statistically predictive of your social status, income, life expectancy, incarceration possibilities, circumstances-of-life in general, **then** maybe, just maybe, it will be time for them to shut up. But I fear neither they nor you will live to see that day. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/36 "2010-07-16T14:32:54Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I don’t know about everything you brought up in the OP, but the Williams quote makes sense to me. It’s time for those who who are professionally offended on behalf of their racial group to give it up. “Yesterday our general manager came on the air to give an editorial condemning drunken driving. Today, Mr. Rand Rover is here to give an opposing opinion.”\* \*apologies to the late great Johnny Carson ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/37 "2010-07-16T14:39:45Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > _“We don’t cotton”? “We don’t cotton”?_ You bet we don’t cotton, YOU MUTHA-FUCKIN’ RACIST! The worst part is you just _know_ he thinks that was so clever and that his buds are nudging him at whatever the cyber version of the water cooler is for it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/38 "2010-07-16T15:03:57Z")
[White people to NAACP: Time to disband!](http://www.salon.com/news/tea_parties/index.html?story=/opinion/walsh/politics/2010/07/15/white_people_tell_naacp_to_disband) > [@](#): > > By Joan Walsh > > Ben Jealous, give it up. Your organization, the NAACP, is no longer needed. How do I know? I read it in a press release today from a group of “Nevada Conservative Leaders and Grassroots Activists,” which told me that “In 2010, the NAACP has outlived its usefulness.” Thanks, white people! > > A lot of white conservatives are upset with the NAACP this week for daring to talk about racists in the Tea Party movement. The group passed a resolution asking the Tea Party to condemn the racists in its midst. It didn’t denounce the entire Tea Party, as simple-minded folk like Sarah Palin have claimed; it merely tries to take supporters at their word that only a tiny fringe of the movement harbors any racist sentiment, by asking those supporters to denounce that fringe. What’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/39 "2010-07-16T15:06:47Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Because I dislike rephrasing what someone else has already said perfectly, I will quote an unlikely source for perfect agreement with me: [Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/14/AR2010071404217.html), in yesterday’s column: [snipped for space considerations] > > > [@](#): > > > > But speaking of Tea Party leaders, he added: “We’ve seen the signs, we’ve heard the slurs, and all we’re asking is for you to act responsibly and say there’s no space for bigots in the Tea Party.” > > I concur completely. And I disagree. Vehemently. The Tea Party is working to get [a ballot line in NY](http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/29222/and-the-winner-is-taxpayers-party/) for, among others, their gubernatorial candidate: Carl Paladino. For anyone who may have forgotten who he is, he’s the [NY real estate mogul turned Tea Party leader](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=559522&highlight=Paladino) who got into a bit of trouble this year when emails being forwarded to people on Tea Party mailing lists included racist screeds and imagery, as well as bestiality porn. His apologia when this all came out was [less than satisfactory](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/04/13/2010-04-13_racism_porn_are_just_a_guy_thing_says_gov_hopeful.html): > [@](#): > > “To any of the ladies I’ve offended, I apologize,” Paladino said. “I say this to any of the men out there who have never opened a graphic image on the internet, don’t vote for me. For those who have, I welcome your vote.” This is, IMNSHO, a man who sees nothing wrong in the images and text he forwarded. For that matter, this is a man revealed to be a sexist pig. As well as a racist one. And he’s being lauded as a leader for the Tea Partiers. Bugger all the racist, sexist bastards. Bugger all the idiots buying into the idea that racism isn’t a key part of recruiting for the Tea Party. And bugger anyone who doesn’t try to hold the Tea Party accountable for what their own goddamned leadership is saying. It’s not simply a lunatic fringe of the Tea Party. It’s a lot more central than that. I am willing to believe there are plenty of decent people involved in the Tea Party movement. That doesn’t excuse their willingness to turn a blind eye to the filth that IMNSHO pervades every level of the Tea Party. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/40 "2010-07-16T15:17:53Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I don’t know about everything you brought up in the OP, but the Williams quote makes sense to me. It’s time for those who who are professionally offended on behalf of their racial group to give it up. Once again, **Bricker** and **Rand Rover** are the lone voices of reason in an otherwise useless thread. Williams is correct. The NAACP belongs on the scrap heap of history. They benefit no one. They’re professional offenderati and nothing more. Now how many times do the TP leaders have to deny that they’re about racism, how many times do they have to denounce racist actions, for you to admit that they’re trying to “expel the bigots and racists from [their] ranks”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856.md?page=3)