# NAACP makes "more money off of race than any slave trader ever" comment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856 "2010-07-16T00:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/61 "2010-07-16T18:47:07Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > You, and some others in this thread, are taking it for granted that the NAACP is actually “keeping up the pressure” or otherwise advancing equality. It does neither. It’s as ineffectual as a street preacher. Despite the fact that conservative politicians shun it, this is not the case. The NAACP is still very important, particularly in districts with large black populations. But, please, don’t believe me. I really hope the birthers/teabaggers continue on this course. If the mainstream media ever gets around to actually reporting critically on them, they’ll be toast. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/62 "2010-07-16T18:47:25Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > **Rand Rover** is correct. I have not noticed cats and dogs living together in sin, or the grounds opening up to swallow people, or anything, so clearly this isn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/63 "2010-07-16T18:49:43Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Those are independent statements. **Rand Rover** is correct. So is **Bricker**. That doesn’t mean I think those two have the same stance. But they’re saying two completely contradictory things. How can they both be right? ---
**Author:** ![darkgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@darkgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darkgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/64 "2010-07-16T18:53:53Z")
> [@](#): > > My own opinion of the NAACP is similar to my opinions of the ACLU- I don’t always agree with them and they sometimes do things that make my eyeballs roll but I generally think the nation and its most vulnerable people are one helluva lot better off for their existence than they would be without them, plus they get beaucoup bonus points for pissing off all the right people. I’m a black woman, not that that’s important and I agree with this. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/65 "2010-07-16T19:14:28Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > But they’re saying two completely contradictory things. How can they both be right? [Reb Tevye]Miller is also right…[/Reb Tevye] ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/66 "2010-07-16T19:36:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > But they’re saying two completely contradictory things. How can they both be right? **Rand Rover** is saying that the NAACP needs to shut the hell up and quit race baiting. As I said, they’re professional offenderati. He says that any organization that is built on advancing a race is not a good thing. I agree. That’s enough of a match to warrant saying “ **Rand Rover** is right.” Now, let’s turn out attention to the Tea Party and racism. **Bricker** says that the Tea Party has racists like the Democratic Party has flag burners. The Tea Party, he agrees, needs to say there’s no space for bigots in the Tea Party. I agree with that, too. Thus, “ **Bricker** is right.” I see nothing “completely contradictory” there. Furthermore, I think that enough Tea Party leaders _have_ condemned the racists that it annoys me when people keep trying to say that black-hate is part of the platform (as much as one can say a platform exists at all). Finally, anyone who calls them “tea baggers” can immediately dismissed as a moron. You don’t see me running around calling them “Democraps”, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/67 "2010-07-16T19:44:18Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > He says that any organization that is built on advancing a race is not a good thing. I agree. The NAACP was founded in 1909. Are you… like… _at all_ familiar with what the country was like at that time and why the _Advancement_ part was needed? Do you think the fact that times have changed has absolutely nothing to do with the NAACP and many many other organizations? Or that because segregation is no longer legislated that there are no longer issues that are of concern primarily to black people and therefore no need for a group? ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/68 "2010-07-16T19:49:53Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The NAACP was founded in 1909. Are you… like… _at all_ familiar with what the country was like at that time and why the _Advancement_ part was needed? Do you think the fact that times have changed has absolutely nothing to do with the NAACP and many many other organizations? Or that because segregation is no longer legislated that there are no longer issues that are of concern primarily to black people and therefore no need for a group? They had their time and place. I’m not denying that. But those times are gone. Today, they spend 90% of their time getting involved in things that have nothing to do with them. Don Imus? The beer summit? Oh come on. A white person offends a black person and the NAACP thinks it’s time to charge into action. Do blacks today face a lot of problems? Definitely. Because they’re black? That is, if you waved a wand and made them white, would their problems go away? Not really. The NAACP is a textbook case of idle hands. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/69 "2010-07-16T19:53:49Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > **Rand Rover** is saying that the NAACP needs to shut the hell up and quit race baiting. As I said, they’re professional offenderati. He says that any organization that is built on advancing a race is not a good thing. I agree. That’s enough of a match to warrant saying “ **Rand Rover** is right.” > > Now, let’s turn out attention to the Tea Party and racism. **Bricker** says that the Tea Party has racists like the Democratic Party has flag burners. The Tea Party, he agrees, needs to say there’s no space for bigots in the Tea Party. I agree with that, too. Thus, “ **Bricker** is right.” **Rand Rover** is saying that the NAACP serves no purpose and should be disbanded. **Bricker** is saying that the NAACP is entirely correct in their criticism of the Tea Party. That strikes me as a pretty big contradiction. > [@](#): > > I see nothing “completely contradictory” there. Furthermore, I think that enough Tea Party leaders _have_ condemned the racists that it annoys me when people keep trying to say that black-hate is part of the platform (as much as one can say a platform exists at all). Can you show examples of where they’ve done this? The closest I’ve ever observed is some pretty standard, “Of course we’re not racists!” boiler-plate, but I’ve not observed any efforts of behalf of Tea Party leadership to actually silence or exclude the racist element in their party. > [@](#): > > Finally, anyone who calls them “tea baggers” can immediately dismissed as a moron. Why? It is, after all, the term they originally picked to describe themselves. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/70 "2010-07-16T19:59:00Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Do blacks today face a lot of problems? Definitely. Because they’re black? That is, if you waved a wand and made them white, would their problems go away? Not really. The NAACP is a textbook case of idle hands. [Recommended read](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/12/883698/-Black-Powers-Gonna-Get-You-Sucka:-Right-Wing-Paranoia-and-the-Rhetoric-of-Modern-Racism). ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/71 "2010-07-16T20:06:56Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nah, color you stupid, more like. > > Do you really think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have anything left to say? As long as there are people like you… BTW has anyone else noticed that WEB DuBOIS looks a lot like Michael Steele before he sold his soul? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/72 "2010-07-16T20:09:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Why? It is, after all, the term they originally picked to describe themselves. **Chessic Sense** is correct, then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/73 "2010-07-16T20:09:48Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And had they existed before fire was discovered, they would have eaten raw meat. What’s your point? The conservative reactionaries have always been on the wrong side of history and in this country that sort of conservatism has long been associated with racism. ---
**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/74 "2010-07-16T20:10:19Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Once again, **Bricker** and **Rand Rover** are the lone voices of reason in an otherwise useless thread. I’m mostly a lurker, but I’ve read quite a few of your posts, and I’ve been meaning to ask you a question. What color is the sky in your world? I hope it’s yellow. I’ve always thought a yellow sky would be pretty. It’s probably more like chartreuse and totally hideous, though. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/75 "2010-07-16T20:18:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Because I dislike rephrasing what someone else has already said perfectly, I will quote an unlikely source for perfect agreement with me: [Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/14/AR2010071404217.html), in yesterday’s column: > > I concur completely. Holy sh!t, am I about to agree with Bricker again? I will note that their tolerance of racism in their midst makes me feel like they are all racist to some degree. If you went to a rally against taxes and the Klan showed up to march with you against the blackification of America, would you keep marching next to them? Would you blame me for making some judgements about based on the comapny you keep? I know these guys are not the Klan and I am exxagerating for effect. Why are they tolerating so much overt racism? Why can’t I judge them by the company they keep? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/76 "2010-07-16T20:30:08Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > [Recommended read](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/12/883698/-Black-Powers-Gonna-Get-You-Sucka:-Right-Wing-Paranoia-and-the-Rhetoric-of-Modern-Racism). You beat me to it. I posted a link to that on my FB page yesterday, and people went BALLISTIC. Always a good indication that the information needed to be pointed out. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/77 "2010-07-16T20:30:57Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > In other words, you are a fucking idiot. You don’t know what “federalism” means, do you? In American political discourse, “federalism” has meant at least two things with nearly opposite meanings, neither of which has any slightest relevance to the preposterous idea that the Tea Party is somehow a revival of the spirit of 19th-Century slavery-abolitionism. If you’re a lawyer, I’m the Emperor of China. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/78 "2010-07-16T20:35:08Z")
> [@sleeping](#): > > If only we lived in a post-corporatist society. Le sigh. We never have been a corporatist society – [“corporatism”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism) does not mean what you seem to think it does. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/79 "2010-07-16T20:39:53Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Dude that said that was black, right? > > I agree completely with the article **Bricker** posted. Leaders of the Tea Party should openly declare that there’s no room in their party for racists and homophobes. > > They won’t though, because it obviously will thin their ranks too much. > > God, what has the Republican Party become? I simply cannot believe the transformation. That is the quandary the Republican party finds itself in. My Republican friends thought they could abandon the Republican party by moving towards tea party alternatives until they realized the sort of people the Tea party was attracting. Now they want a mulligan on the last ten years. They constantly remind me of how the republicans used to be the adults in the room and couild be once again and I constantly remind them that I used to be a Republican and could be once again. Seriously, if they stopped pandering to the likes of Grover Norquist, Pat Robertson and the Strom Thurmond crowd, there’s not telling what they could accomplish ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856/80 "2010-07-16T20:41:16Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > In American political discourse, “federalism” has meant at least two things with nearly opposite meanings, neither of which has any slightest relevance to the preposterous idea that the Tea Party is somehow a revival of the spirit of 19th-Century slavery-abolitionism. > > If you’re a lawyer, I’m the Emperor of China. I think your opinion of lawyers is too high (and I’m a lawyer). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naacp-makes-more-money-off-of-race-than-any-slave-trader-ever-comment/546856.md?page=5)