I know people who have boar hunted. For those of you in the stands, only one of them has ever tried to use a pitbull. Most of them use standard hunting dogs… Red Tick, Blue Tick, etc…
And I happen to not have a problem with pitbulls either, just for the record.
Count me in the camp for killing more boars. I live near the Smokies. A few years back they tried to reintroduce the wolf (so they wouldn’t have to organize PitA deer hunts every few years), but the damn boars apparently kept killing the young. Those things tear up everything and they’re agonizing to get rid of. They’re hardy, range a bit, and don’t cluster so there’s no easy method of whacking them.
Hoping against hope, I will ask you, as I have asked you before, to explain how such inherently vicious animals could be so completely rehabilitated. How can it be that giant dogs who want nothing more than to fight and fight and, in your words, "eat their owners, could become family pets. How dogs who were tortured and abused in order to be better fighters could become therapy dogs How the fuck is this possible?
I have a Jack Russell Terrier. She’s a rescue, but only because the breeder was no longer going to use her as breeding stock, so she has papers and everything. I suppose though, that if enough people called her a Poodle, that’s what she’s be. I mean, that’s how language works, right?
I actually own an Old Southern White English Bulldog who used to hunt hogs. I’ve never hunted hogs with him, because it’s not even remotely close to my thing.
He was a champion dog, perfect conformation, perfect temperament, shitzun trained.
He’s not a giant marshmellow, but I’ve gotten off topic.
He used to hunt hogs, and he used to love it. I saw one video of him doing it and he just enjoyed himself doing that as much as I’ve seen him enjoy anything, ever. He’s just past 9 years old now (which is a respectable age for his breed), and hasn’t done it in over 5 years, since we got him, so he’s probably not fit to do it anymore. He’s probably done it a dozen times in his life, though.
The video I saw of him doing it… he had the most blissful look on his face, and when we got him he wasn’t a happy dog (he wasn’t a “sad” dog either, he was just a generally non-emotive animal). When we got him, he was a kennel dog, stud and show dog. He was not, as you and I normally discuss it, a pet any more than a cow or a chicken is a pet.
Would I hunt hogs with my dogs? No, I certainly wouldn’t. Would I begrudge someone who does? After seeing how much the dogs enjoy themselves, I can’t say I do.
I do begrudge the ones who don’t take the proper safety precautions, though. My understanding is that depending on the dog, they wear leather ‘vests,’ and have medical supplies standing by (stitches, things like that). It’s exceedingly rare, when done properly, of these dogs being badly injured (beyond stitches) and the odds of them being mortally wounded are even rarer than that.
All that said, it’s only my understanding, I’ve never participated in the ‘sport’ myself.
What “you believe” and the facts as they stand clearly have no connection. What “you believe” on a topic you know absolutely nothing about is approximately as useful and valid as what Jenny McCarthy believes about vaccines.
It doesn’t matter how ladylike your figure, you can’t outrun a run wild boar.
While I’m no fan of hunting, I think NajaNivea makes a compelling case. At any rate, calling them evil and immoral is just stupid.
American bulldog, my mistake.
Let me clue you in on something, you moron. You can’t breed two thirty-five pound dogs and birth a litter of 110lb dogs. Someone along the way has been adding in all kinds of other blood to achieve those results. French and Italian mastiffs (Dogue de Bordeaux and Mastino) are favorite choices for this.
Adding in molossoid blood, you wind up with dogs that look like this, which is the picture that you and any other member of the general public has of a “pit bull”. That they’re* mixed-breed dogs* has no impact on you, whatsoever, because you have no functional knowledge separating one breed from another. They all look generally the same to your untrained eye, thus they must all be the same, right?
Again… an argument that they’re more common, more commonly mishandled, and that you’re more likely to encounter such a pit bull (or even a mixed-breed dog that looks like a pit bull) than an equally poorly-handled Mastino is a defensible argument, and logical. Arguing that pit bulls carry some genetic or physical trait that makes them more dangerous than any other breed of dog on the planet by a “supernova like” degree is not.
See? This is where the comment about boar hunting came from.
gonzomax,** LHOD** and the other idiots keep popping in to insist that “pit bulls” carry some genetic “psychosis” that drives them to murderize like no other dog that exists. They seem not to be able to grasp that any number of working dogs were bred to “fight, and fight and fight”, to “keep on coming”. This includes a broad spectrum of dogs, including dogs bred to fight wolves, coyotes, foxes, mountain lions, bears, wild boar, and human beings.
When their attention is called to this matter, they fall into setting up poodle shaped strawmen and knocking them down, hence the use of boar-dogs as illustration for a number of breeds whose bite power and tenacity these idiots wave away as “irrelevant”. That none of them have any functional knowledge on the topic, and cannot conceive of the power and tenacity behind such a working-breed dog is clear. This doesn’t stop them from insisting that a pit bull has some magical, mythical, super-canine powers.
What people in general fail to realize is that animals are just that, animals.
Dogs all come from fucking wolves. Wolves for gods fucking sake! Do you realize that within each and every dog there is an equal potential for maiming and killing?
30 pounds muts can kill humans as easily as 160 pound mastiffs. There’s no effective difference, the only common thread through most dog attacks is not breed, it’s neglect or shitty ownership.
If you think differently, go fuck yourself, you’re wrong.
Oh, and then there’s our bright and shining pal, magellan01, originator of this exchange:
A question to which, of course, I received no reply.
Good luck with that, I’ve been trying to argue this point with the same ignorant assholes seen in this thread, here on these boards for at least two years.
Pit bulls are magic satan hounds, though, so they’re *different. * :rolleyes:
reread the thread in question, ignorant fucking knee-jerk douchebag. whole bean never perpetuated a myth. whole bean’s objection to pit bulls and pit bull mixes was (and is) their tendancy to dog-aggression. whole bean and naja nivea were debating the best (and worst) methods for culling these animals (specifically mixes) from animal shelters.
Is there a reason you’re referring to yourself in the third person?
See, this just isn’t true, no more so than saying a 5’7 man can dunk a basketball as easily as a 7’’ man. Sure, a 30 pound mutt is capable, under the right circumstances, of killing a human and a random 30 pund mutt might be as likely to attack a human, but cover me in gravy and force me into a ring with a dog, I’ll take my chances with the mutt as I am much more confident in my ability to kill it. All things being equal, it would much easier for the 50 pound APBT to kill me than it would for my 27 pound Pembroke Welsh Corgi
whole bean refuses to have his posts mischaracterized
Believe it or not, that’s not entirely true.
The vast majority of human beings go into shock after being bitten by a dog, whether they’re bitten on an appendage or their body – no matter the size of the dog. People don’t get into cage fights with animals, the majority of attacks are done to the unsuspecting.
While it’s true that small dogs, like toy dogs, are not of any significant danger… dogs of a certain size and larger are all equally dangerous. That danger is more likely from neglectful or abusive owners than the breed of the dog, is my point.
I had a pit for a number of years, totally trustworthy and gentle with kids.
But I never had any boars attack my house. I guess number 3 is true 
I have nothing else, since I’ve been in too many of these argument threads already.
