# Naked Samurai hacks up wife, shot by cops

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 8, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734 "2003-12-08T18:27:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/1 "2003-12-08T18:27:16Z")

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In New York a naked Samurai guy chopped up his wife, screamed “I’m God! I’m immortal” and was shot at 14 times by a police officer. 2 of the bullets hit her partner. The Samurai guy is also still alive. The samurai guy sounds like he was on something.

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**Author:** ![Stover9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Stover9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stover9)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/2 "2003-12-08T18:36:27Z")

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Unbelievable.

(Note to all women, stay away from men named IVOR)

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/3 "2003-12-08T20:06:23Z")

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So when are the cops going on trial? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/4 "2003-12-08T20:35:48Z")

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I must admit even I skidded to a halt and did a double-take when I saw the _News_ headline, “ **NAKED SAMURAI SLASHER**.”

Passersby might have heard me mutter “band name . . .” to myself.

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**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/5 "2003-12-08T21:13:07Z")

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What made the guy a samurai? Because he used katana-like samurai swords? Did he have an official Samurai designation?

He obviously wasn’t wearing traditional garb…

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> So when are the cops going on trial?

And on this note, I don’t know about going on trial, but that one cop definately needs to be kicked off the force.

14 shots!?! At a man armed with a sword? She hit her fucking partner TWICE. Do they not teach fire control, anymore? How about basic target practice?

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/6 "2003-12-08T21:38:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*The samurai guy sounds like he was on something. \*\*

Or is mentally ill.

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/7 "2003-12-08T21:44:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*The Samurai guy is also still alive. The samurai guy sounds like he was on something. \*\*

Nope. He really was god. He nearly cut his wife’s head off, sliced her hand off, and survived being shot at 14 times…how else would you explain that?

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/8 "2003-12-08T22:01:12Z")

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hmm… I’m thinking this guy might be a deranged Highlander fan. Or maybe that’s just the first thing I think of when I hear of katanas, beheadings, and people claiming to be immortal.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/9 "2003-12-08T22:15:39Z")

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Tom Cruise has truly lost it.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/10 "2003-12-08T22:45:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \*  
> \*\*And on this note, I don’t know about going on trial, but that one cop definitely needs to be kicked off the force. \*\*

Now we don’t know the circumstances yet.  
14 shots!?! At a man armed with a sword? She hit her fucking partner TWICE. Do they not teach fire control, anymore? How about basic target practice? \*\*  
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Well apparently 14 shots wasn’t enough, he’s still alive after all/

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/11 "2003-12-08T22:47:58Z")

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Ugh, any passing mod feel free…

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**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/12 "2003-12-08T23:31:03Z")

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> Now we don’t know the circumstances yet.

That’s true. I COULD imagine this in some sort of strange, desperate, confused struggle, but I find it very unlikely.

Well apparently 14 shots wasn’t enough, he’s still alive after all  
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The point is, with proper control of the situation, she only would have needed one.

I’m not saying that in a surreal situation such as this, that it’s easy to stay in control, or should even be expected by your average person. But we should at least hope that our officers of law can do it. This one has shown that, very likely, she can not.

Maybe put her on a desk job, at least?

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**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/13 "2003-12-08T23:38:32Z")

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Geez, **World Eater** , we’re shooting our bad coding around like a frightened cop at a naked samurai, huh? 😛

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/14 "2003-12-08T23:42:20Z")

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\<Terry Pratchett\>

The police are calling it suicide. Running at a policeman with a sword yelling “I’m immortal” clearly is suicide by New York standards

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/15 "2003-12-09T01:14:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*The samurai guy sounds like he was on something. \*\*

Nope. The article says:

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> He apparently wasn’t on drugs and no one is sure what sparked his rage, a police source said. He was charged with second-degree murder and criminal possession of a weapon.
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> “My brother was a wonderful person; he just had some emotional problems that we’re still trying to sort out,” Nicole Forbes said.

Some emotional problems, indeed…

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/16 "2003-12-09T01:41:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \*  
> \*\*Geez, **World Eater** , we’re shooting our bad coding around like a frightened cop at a naked samurai, huh? 😛 \*\*

😛

[sub]Good one, I’m still chuckling 5 minutes later[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Grelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@Grelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grelby)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/17 "2003-12-09T01:55:56Z")

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**CaptBushido** , that’s an awfully harsh judgement, isn’t it? Police are not trained in the kind of control you describe, precisely because it is for practical purposes impossible to achieve in an actual life threatening situation. I don’t think you will find many cases where a cop firing their weapon used only one bullet, and especially not any that achieved real results.

That being said, 14 shots with two hitting her partner _sounds_ pretty bad - but as **World Eater** said we don’t know the circumstances yet. It may be par for the course or even better. The wording is ambiguous. For all we know, her opening fire saved her partner’s life, but positioning made taking the shots a risky enough proposition that he was hit.

And ye gods, what insanity. I’m actually glad the nutcase is alive, maybe they’ll be able to find out what snapped in his mind to make him do this…

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**Author:** ![Sinungaling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Sinungaling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinungaling)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/18 "2003-12-09T02:21:01Z")

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Perhaps he was a Walter Mitty type who felt that his world had been too mundane for too long. Perhaps it was an existential murder to prove that he was still alive, gloriously and violently so. Perhaps a dark spirit has long haunted his mind, dispelled temporarily by the presence of his beloved, but ultimately never to be banished from his soul. Or perhaps he had an onset of violent schizophrenia, which can manifest in the young. The last explanation is the most likely, but I prefer the other ones for being more interesting.

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**Author:** ![CaptBushido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/19 "2003-12-09T02:57:25Z")

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> CaptBushido, that’s an awfully harsh judgement, isn’t it? Police are not trained in the kind of control you describe, precisely because it is for practical purposes impossible to achieve in an actual life threatening situation. I don’t think you will find many cases where a cop firing their weapon used only one bullet, and especially not any that achieved real results.

Well, I didn’t mean that _literally_ she should have only fired one shot, but that would have been the minimum amount of force necessary in an ideal situation (which, as you say, is practically impossible).

14 shots just seems outright excessive. Make a gun with your fingers and say bang and pull your hands up about as fast as you think you can pull a trigger, counting to 14 as you go. Then tell me that 14 doesn’t seem ridiculous.

Someone was obviously very panicked and reacting instinctively. Bad behavior for a cop.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naked-samurai-hacks-up-wife-shot-by-cops/217734/20 "2003-12-09T03:09:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NurseCarmen \*  
> \*\*Tom Cruise has truly lost it. \*\*

😃

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