# Name of a rose **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 14, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395 "2006-10-14T03:46:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Green\_Eyed\_Stranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Green\_Eyed\_Stranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Eyed_Stranger)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/1 "2006-10-14T03:46:52Z")
This may be unanswerable, but I’m hoping someone knows (if it exists). Gage Park in Topeka, Kansas has the [Reinisch Rose Garden](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinisch_Rose_Garden_and_Doran_Rock_Garden), and part of the rose garden is the AARS test beds. I was going through the test beds and saw a rose that I would really like to have. It was labled 05R601 Planted 2004. It was a pretty large bush (over 6 feet), and had pink flowers with a very nice strong smell. Does anyone know if this rose has been brought to market, and who might have done it? Thanks, GES ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/2 "2006-10-14T04:01:57Z")
Honestly, the best approach for anything of this nature is to just pick up the phone and call Reinisch Rose Garden and ask for the person that most best about that rose. Most of the people that work there will really like roses and answering questions about them. In all likelihood, they have had the same inquiry before. Virtually all gardens, museums, historical societies and the like will fall over backwards for you if you express a genuine interest and are mildly assertive yet friendly. I sent an e-mail to a historical society about my circa 1760 house and someone spent a week researching it sending me all kinds of info. That is what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/3 "2006-10-14T04:03:38Z")
The people who would know for sure are the ones at the Reinisch garden. Give them a [call](http://www3.oag.com/Cities/Detail?city=368469&cat=26&item=40490487) at 785-272-5900. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/4 "2006-10-14T04:09:24Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] …call Reinisch Rose Garden…Most of the people that work there will really like roses… [/QUOTE] The others, well, them you have to watch out for, y’know? ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/5 "2006-10-14T10:21:38Z")
[QUOTE=Green Eyed Stranger] It was labled 05R601 Planted 2004. It was a pretty large bush (over 6 feet), and had pink flowers with a very nice strong smell. [/QUOTE] Well of course. A rose by any other name smells just as sweet… 🙂 (I’ve been waiting to use that line in proper context forever) ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/6 "2006-10-14T10:37:26Z")
[QUOTE=Rigamarole] Well of course. A rose by any other name smells just as sweet… 🙂 (I’ve been waiting to use that line in proper context forever) [/QUOTE] Quoting a forgotten comedian: even if they were called _pus blurters_? Yess, I’m just pissed because you beat me to it. 😃 Carry on… ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/7 "2006-10-14T17:51:24Z")
Rose breeders don’t want to waste a cool name until they’re sure the rose is going to be worth putting on the market. If it still has a number, it may not be available yet. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Eyed\_Stranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Green\_Eyed\_Stranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Eyed_Stranger)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/8 "2006-10-17T02:19:00Z")
[QUOTE=AskNott] Rose breeders don’t want to waste a cool name until they’re sure the rose is going to be worth putting on the market. If it still has a number, it may not be available yet. [/QUOTE] I would think so, but it has been almost three years. I suspect that would be the reason that the rose garden staff wouldn’t know anything about it. If it was in the rose garden proper, I think they would. I figured it would be a shot in the dark, I thought maybe somebody would know some of the details of the process. Thanks, GES ---
**Author:** ![Beaucarnea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@Beaucarnea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beaucarnea)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/9 "2006-10-17T03:02:37Z")
Have you tried the [Jackson and Perkins website](http://www.jacksonandperkins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BECSiteSearchView?keyword=rose&storeId=10053&catalogId=10005&langId=-1)? One of the search functions will let you browse by color. Very few test roses make it to production. My mother is a J & P tester for Southeast Zone 6 and she has 30 or more hybrid tea roses that are nameless, but she is too soft-hearted to tear them out and replace them with patented types. She calls them her “orphans”. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-a-rose/376395/10 "2006-10-17T12:32:39Z")
It seems to have a indexed number that indicts tracable data somewhere. They should stil be able to tell you.