# Name of female 'Carnage' char on Univ Studios Spider-Man ride **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 21, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622 "2004-03-21T23:25:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bleach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bleach/32/3106_2.png) [@bleach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bleach)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/1 "2004-03-21T23:25:11Z")
In the Spider-Man ride in Universal Studios’ Islands of Adventure (Orlando FL), the plot is Spider-Man battling Electro, Hydroman, Doctor Octopus, Hobgoblin, and a female villain who looks like Carnage. There’s a picture of her [here (upper right)](http://www.davedevries.com/Dave/painting%20technique/drawing%20stages/fear/step%2016.jpg). I have two questions: [ol] [li]Does anyone know her name?[/li][li]Has this character ever appeared in any of the Marvel titles? I’m wondering if she was created just for the ride or if she is part of the canon.[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/2 "2004-03-21T23:56:50Z")
Her name is Shriek. She was a product of the 1990s (not known as the best time to be a comic book reader), and she may have been a new host for the alien symbiote that created Carnage. I believe she may have even had an action figure from Toy Biz’s mid-'90s Spider-Man toy line. That said, I thought she was an odd choice to use on the ride, seeing as how nobody knows her at all, and even Carnage has some recognition from the video games, toys, and '90s cartoon series. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/3 "2004-03-22T01:11:26Z")
Shriek was one of 5 symbiote offspring taken from Venom by, I believe, the Jury in an attempt to create/control their own Venom/Carnage. They shoulda just used Venom. He at least was part of the Sinister Six in one of its formations. Regardless, ain’t gonna stop me from going to ride the ride for the first time this June! ---
**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/4 "2004-03-22T03:19:18Z")
I suspect they were looking for a token female villian for the ride. That said, wouldn’t be a better choice available? Actually, at the moment, I can’t think of any female Spider-villians. Okay, there’s the female version of Dr. Octopus. (Octavius’ girlfriend/wife, I believe.) Since the point of this thread has been made (i.e. the identification of Shriek), let’s move things along. Name some female Spider-villians. Anyhoo… ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/5 "2004-03-22T03:53:08Z")
Well, they could have used Black Cat. Sure, she’s reformed but how’d ya like to see that comin’ at ya in 3-D 🙂 He’s got that new one that JMS just came up with, that mothy gal, but that’s a couple years too late. He fought Titania for a while. She kept coming back for more butt-whoopin’ after getting served on WarWorld. I believe there was a horrible Sorpina during DeFalco’s run. Doc Ock’s gal pal was Stunner, I believe. And there was a female Doc Ock, too, who I think has shown up in Spider-Girl lately. Yeah, Spidey doesn’t beat up on the ladies much. So they were really stretching to add one apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/6 "2004-03-22T04:23:17Z")
Mmm, Black Cat or Titania in 3-D… you could lose an eye! And **Max Carnage** , the ride (and the entire Islands of Adventure theme park) are awesome. You’ll have such a good time, but you must be waiting in line when the park opens, and go straight to the Spider-Man ride. Even during the off-season, the line for that is usually well over an hour. Other than that, stay hydrated throughout the day! ---
**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/7 "2004-03-22T06:55:30Z")
I did a little digging in my sparse collection. Geez, Spidey _really_ doesn’t have many female enemies. There are quite a few mercenaries/vigilantes who make his spider-senses tingle, though. 😉 I’d have to say **Titania** is the best female villian Spider-Man has had, though she’s apparently reformed now after fighting cancer. (She’s also married to the Absorbing Man.) The female **Dr. Octopus** was a student of Doc Ock. I don’t know what she’s up to now. There was a witch named **Calypso** , who’s apparently dead, and an assassin named **Delilah**. **Princess Python** was nice! Basically naked, save for some green body paint and a snake. 😉 **Silver Sable** is one of the more well-known female Spider-Man characters, but, like the **Black Cat** , she’s a tweener. (I’d call Cat a vigilante, and Sable a mercenary.) Oh, here’s a favorite of mine! **The White Rabbit**! They should do a story which reveals her secret hideout to be a second, hidden grotto at the Playboy mansion. Hef would make a decent boss “villian”. He could have a harem of mercenary/vigilante chicks - The White Rabbit, The Black Cat, Silver Sable would be more of an ally of Hugh’s. Just think of the possibilities, and the sales! 😉 Anyhoo… ---
**Author:** ![karomon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@karomon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karomon)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/8 "2004-03-22T08:06:46Z")
[hijack]Oh, wicked cool! That was drawn by my illustration teacher. A million kudos to anyone who can find Spiderman in that picture.[/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![AnnaLivia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@AnnaLivia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnnaLivia)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/9 "2004-03-22T13:14:53Z")
To continue the hijack, on Doc Ock’s ‘palm’. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/10 "2004-03-22T13:48:09Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d have to say Titania is the best female villian Spider-Man has had, though she’s apparently reformed now after fighting cancer. (She’s also married to the Absorbing Man.) Did she come back to life? I thought she died from the cancer? ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/11 "2004-03-22T13:50:42Z")
I’m afraid you’re all wrong. [This is Shriek](http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2855/shriek.html) Shriek was Carnages girlfriend during the Maximum Carnage storyline. She had sonic powers, and some sort of ‘causes riots’ power. She never had a symbiote though. This female symbiotes name was [Scream](http://www.geocities.com/area51/chamber/5057/scream.htm) God, I feel so smug now… ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/12 "2004-03-22T19:29:20Z")
Shriek…Scream…both story lines sucked 🙂 Sad considering I still use my username, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Beauty\_Personified](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@Beauty\_Personified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beauty_Personified)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/13 "2004-03-23T00:09:20Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > I’m afraid you’re all wrong. > > [This is Shriek](http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2855/shriek.html) > > Shriek was Carnages girlfriend during the Maximum Carnage storyline. She had sonic powers, and some sort of ‘causes riots’ power. She never had a symbiote though. > > This female symbiotes name was [Scream](http://www.geocities.com/area51/chamber/5057/scream.htm) > > God, I feel so smug now… Thanks for the clarification, Bakhesh! I actually saw a picture of Shriek - which, of course, didn’t look like Scream - but, for some reason, didn’t really think too much about it. Maybe I assumed she had more than one “look”, or that she had been a costumed character (Shriek) before becoming a Carnage clone (Scream). Anyhoo… ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-of-female-carnage-char-on-univ-studios-spider-man-ride/235622/14 "2004-03-23T01:58:40Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Shriek was one of 5 symbiote offspring taken from Venom by, I believe, the Jury in an attempt to create/control their own Venom/Carnage. Not quite. IIRC Her origin was in the miniseries Venom- Lethal Protector. The symbiote eggs, buds, whatever were taken by some organization of rich folks building a huge luxury fallout shelter community. They figured that the worldwould nuke itself to death soon, and wanted to be prepared Their masive subterranean complex had just about everything. But, they needed superhuman agents to protect them from any surface survivors who might pose a threat. Scream was one of two women chosen as subjects. At the end of the series, Venom and Spidey used a machine which had been used to acccelerate the symbiotes’ aging into maturity to age them to death. Later, all of the new symbiote folks showed up with live symbiotes. As a comic reader, I expect and accept characters returning from seeming death. But, I demand an explanation (That wasn’t Professor X. That was a shapechanging mutant who agreed to replace him whie Proffessor X is in seclusion planning a defense against an alien invasion. You destroyed Ultron 4. But before attacking you, 4 built me Ultron 5. etc). AFAIK no explanation was ever given for the symbiotes’ survival. RE Universal Studios Islands Of Adventure I was there 2 years ago. The actor who played Doctor Doom for the superhero parade, really loved that part. He hammed it up wonderfully. I recommend the Doctor Doom FearFall. I love that thing.