# Name that fictional royal or aristocrat!

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**Created:** [May 10, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575 "2007-05-10T18:36:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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With the “Name that book,” “Name that ship” and “Name that rank” threads going so well, I was inspired.

What’s the royal or noble title of these characters, and in what work of fiction did they appear? Rely on your own memory and don’t consult any other sources, please. Feel free to add your own names.

Elendil  
Faramir (last known gig)  
Buttercup  
Robin Hood  
Elizabeth III  
Fiona  
Charming (duh!)  
Harkonnen  
Manwe  
Shaddam IV  
Ruprecht  
Doom  
Palpatine  
Elessar  
John Clay (heheheheh)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
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Buttercup - Princess  
Robin Hood - Earl  
Fiona - Princess  
Charming (duh!) - Prince  
Harkonnen - Baron, if I’m remembering correctly.  
Shaddam IV - Was he the Emperor at the start of Dune? (Been a LONG time since I read it.)  
Palpatine - Emperor

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Correct, but don’t forget your sources.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/4 "2007-05-10T18:57:41Z")

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Oops

Buttercup - Princess Bride  
Robin Hood - Various legends, TV shows, movies, comics, plays, mostly named for him.  
Fiona - Shrek  
Charming (duh!) - Various legends, TV shows, movies, comics, plays, usually rescuing the female lead.  
Harkonnen - Dune  
Shaddam IV - Dune  
Palpatine - Star Wars

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/5 "2007-05-10T18:59:48Z")

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Elendil - first High King of Gondor and Arnor (Lord of the Rings, Silmarillion)  
Faramir (last known gig) - Prince of Ithilien (Lord of the Rings)  
Elizabeth III - Queen of the Star Kingdom of Manticore (Honor Harrington)  
Manwe - King of the Valar (Silmarillion)  
Doom - ruler of Latveria (Marvel comics)  
Elessar - king of Gondor, Arnor, and the Reunited Kingdom (Lord of the Rings)  
How about…

Pothos  
Duncan  
Gale  
Leir  
Vardamir Nólimon

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/6 "2007-05-10T20:26:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Tengu]  
Shaddam IV - Was he the Emperor at the start of Dune? (Been a LONG time since I read it.)  
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He was the Padishah Emperor. Which might count for two, depending on how you parse it.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/7 "2007-05-10T20:29:08Z")

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Cleon

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Cleon - Emperor of the Galactic Empire when it unsuccessfully invaded the Foundation in “Foundation & Empire”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/9 "2007-05-10T20:52:55Z")

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Duncan – King of Scotland (King of Scots?) in _MacBeth_ (the one MacBeth murders to gain the throne)

Robin Hood – in some versions of the legends, Earl of Loxley (in others, of more common birth)

Ruprecht – mentially deficient pseudoprince portrayed for scamming purposes by Freddie Benson (Steve Martin) in _Dirty Rotten Scoundrels._

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/10 "2007-05-10T21:17:54Z")

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[Leir](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leir) – King of the Britons (pre-Saxon, pre-Roman) according to Geoffrey of Monmouth; inspired Shakespeare’s _King Lear._

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/11 "2007-05-11T01:24:48Z")

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Dor  
Gloriana XII  
Lorenzo the Kind

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Doom could also be Thulsa Doom, preist-king nemesis of Conan the Barbarian.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/13 "2007-05-11T03:08:33Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]

Lorenzo the Kind  
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Last King of Ankh.

Edited to Delete “Morpork”

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How about:

Robert Baratheon  
Gregor Vorbarra  
Betsy

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Emperor Gregor Vorbarra (Lois McMasters Bujold’s Vor series)

Queen Betsy (Maryjanice Davidson’s UnDead and … series)

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Dor  
Gloriana XII  
Lorenzo the Kind  
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Gloriana XII was, of course, the Duchess of Grand Fenwick (source: _The Mouse that Roared_) Bravo, **jayjay** , on giving me my fond nostalgia moment for the day. Probably for the week.

**Kythereia** , when you say “Pothos,” do you mean “Porthos”? I don’t think his ancestry or title were revealed, but he was one of Dumas’ _Three Muskateers_, if that’s whom you had in mind.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Duncan – King of Scotland (King of Scots?) in _MacBeth_ (the one MacBeth murders to gain the throne)

Robin Hood – in some versions of the legends, Earl of Loxley (in others, of more common birth)

Ruprecht – mentially deficient pseudoprince portrayed for scamming purposes by Freddie Benson (Steve Martin) in _Dirty Rotten Scoundrels._  
[/QUOTE]

Right on all three - the last, in particular, brought a smile to my face. And you even remembered Martin’s con-man character’s name - impressive!

“Not mother…?” I _love_ that movie.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/18 "2007-05-11T15:41:08Z")

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Some more:

Almaviva  
Altoum  
Enrico Ashton

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/19 "2007-05-11T16:03:03Z")

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Dor: King of Xanth.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/20 "2007-05-11T16:09:29Z")

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[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven]

**Kythereia** , when you say “Pothos,” do you mean “Porthos”? I don’t think his ancestry or title were revealed, but he was one of Dumas’ _Three Muskateers_, if that’s whom you had in mind.  
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Nope, I mean ‘Pothos’. 😉 It’s a little bit of a stretch in terms of royalty or aristocracy, but Pothos _is_ a ruler…

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