# Name that fictional royal or aristocrat!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 10, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575 "2007-05-10T18:36:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/21 "2007-05-11T16:15:31Z")

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[QUOTE=C K Dexter Haven]  
“Porthos”? I don’t think his ancestry or title were revealed, but he was one of Dumas’ _Three Muskateers_, if that’s whom you had in mind.  
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In the sequel to _Les Trois mousquetaires_, _Vingt ans après_, Porthos is a baron.

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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/22 "2007-05-11T16:17:02Z")

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Oops, sorry, the phone rang, and then I forgot to refresh.

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**Author:** ![Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alive_At_Both_Ends)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/23 "2007-05-11T16:19:19Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Duncan – King of Scotland (King of Scots?) in _MacBeth_ (the one MacBeth murders to gain the throne)  
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Both Duncan and Macbeth were real kings of Scotland, though Shakespeare’s play is inaccurate historically. The OP specified “fictional” royals/aristocrats.

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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/24 "2007-05-11T16:21:19Z")

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Sorry, K, the phone rang and I forgot to refresh before posting.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/25 "2007-05-11T16:22:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Alive At Both Ends]  
Both Duncan and Macbeth were real kings of Scotland, though Shakespeare’s play is inaccurate historically. The OP specified “fictional” royals/aristocrats.  
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I did mean ‘Duncan’ from Macbeth, but if the OP says it’s not kosher I’ll withdraw it. No harm done.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/26 "2007-05-11T16:49:34Z")

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[QUOTE=glhoule]  
Titles mean nothing in the US. A person named Baron Von Trapp is assumed to have a first name Baron.  
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Were you trying to post [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420379)? Because I don’t see how this is at all relevant.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/27 "2007-05-11T16:55:37Z")

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Jen Brozzek

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/28 "2007-05-11T17:44:33Z")

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Rygel XVI

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/29 "2007-05-11T17:56:12Z")

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Rygel XVI – Dominar _(devant)_ of the Hynerian Empire, _Farscape_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/30 "2007-05-11T18:16:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
I did mean ‘Duncan’ from Macbeth, but if the OP says it’s not kosher I’ll withdraw it. No harm done.  
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It’s kosher, I think. The Scottish kings in _Macbeth_ - hell, the kings, queens, dukes and duchesses, and misc. aristocrats appearing in virtually any Shakespeare play - are clearly fictional, even if their names happen to match those of actual people.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/31 "2007-05-11T20:45:55Z")

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Here’s some :

Kalvan  
Selenay  
Vlad Taltos  
Kea Richards  
Phelan  
Fell  
Robero  
Incarnadine  
Aevar  
Mondrogan

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/32 "2007-05-11T20:56:55Z")

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Kalvan – Great King of Hos-Hostigos, _Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen,_ H. Beam Piper

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/33 "2007-05-11T21:06:22Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Kalvan – Great King of Hos-Hostigos, _Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen,_ H. Beam Piper  
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/34 "2007-05-11T21:09:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Here’s some :  
Phelan

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Phelan, Ilkhan of one of the Warrior Clans in the _Battletech_ novels?

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/35 "2007-05-11T21:18:01Z")

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Vlad Toltos is from a series by Steven Brust. Not sure of the series name, but I remember reading \*The Book of Jhereg \* and others from the series.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/36 "2007-05-11T21:50:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
Phelan, Ilkhan of one of the Warrior Clans in the _Battletech_ novels?  
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Nope.

[QUOTE=Khadaji]  
Vlad Toltos is from a series by Steven Brust. Not sure of the series name, but I remember reading \*The Book of Jhereg \* and others from the series.  
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Ah, but what’s his title ? No cookie without the title.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/37 "2007-05-11T22:04:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Nope.

Ah, but what’s his title ? No cookie without the title.  
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Geez, its been 10 or 15 years since I read him last. But I think it is baronet. I don’t remember, I do recall he was sometimes referred to as Lord Taltos, but that doesn’t clear it up for me.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/38 "2007-05-11T22:18:52Z")

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Incarnadine is King of Castle Perilous, in DeChancie’s _Castle Perilous_ books.

New one:

Lan Mandragoran

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/39 "2007-05-11T23:06:53Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
New one:

Lan Mandragoran  
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Eh? What’s that? Lady Mondegreen?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-that-fictional-royal-or-aristocrat/403575/40 "2007-05-12T02:12:58Z")

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Robert Baratheon - Robert I, King of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros (from George R.R. Martin’s _Song of Fire and Ice_ series).

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