# Names and/or authors of two old Sci Fi short stories

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 31, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588 "2013-12-31T20:39:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588/21 "2014-01-01T22:00:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Sherrerd  
> I hope no one unfamiliar with Futurama reads this…

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Do such people exist??? FFS, tell me where and I’ll rush right over with my DVDs!

😃 You are a true humanitarian!

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588/22 "2014-01-01T22:49:42Z")

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Sherrerd writes:

\> And when this fact becomes generally acknowledged–and accepted–many, if not  
\> most, human institutions will have to change radically.

You exaggerate. This is fairly well known. It’s been mentioned on the SDMB (sometimes by me) many times.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588/23 "2014-01-01T23:34:20Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> Sherrerd writes:
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> \> And when this fact becomes generally acknowledged–and accepted–many, if not  
> \> most, human institutions will have to change radically.
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> You exaggerate. This is fairly well known. It’s been mentioned on the SDMB (sometimes by me) many times.

Sure, it’s probable that a fairly large proportion of regulars at The Straight Dope are aware of this viewpoint (that memory is highly subjective, fallible, and constructed-rather-than-recorded). And a fairly large proportion of that proportion, I would guess, accept this as true.

But regulars at [straightdope.com](http://straightdope.com) cannot be said to be a representative sample of all humans. We are talking about people who value education and an open mind. Such is not a majority view amongst our species.

Worldwide, I’d estimate that only a tiny percentage of people (2%, maybe?) would be willing to entertain the notion that they are _not_ in control of a mind that records Reality in impartial, complete, and reliable fashion.

We, here, are _not_ typical.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588/24 "2014-01-02T01:29:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A previous thread on Clarke’s “History Lesson”: [What Disney cartoon was Arthur C. Clarke referring to in this short story? - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=403695)

Thanks for this link.

It seems like the consensus in that thread was there was no particular Disney character being described. So, **Wendell** ’s claim that it was “Donald Duck” above may be another instance of ‘creative memory’ (NB: I am not in any way meaning to be pejorative to Wendell).

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588/25 "2014-01-02T01:41:40Z")

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I forgot to say (ha!) that I _was_ aware that many memories are created, or at least are ‘semi-synthetic’. I just thought I was immune to the phenomenon!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/names-and-or-authors-of-two-old-sci-fi-short-stories/677588/26 "2014-01-02T03:01:30Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> I forgot to say (ha!) that I _was_ aware that many memories are created, or at least are ‘semi-synthetic’. **I just thought I was immune to the phenomenon**!

I suspect we _all_ do (even if we know better). 🙂

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