# Naming movie sequels. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 24, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324 "2007-09-24T16:51:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/21 "2007-09-24T21:47:53Z")
[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] Porky’s II [/QUOTE] Actual called “[Porky’s II: The Next Day](http://imdb.com/title/tt0086129/)” ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/22 "2007-09-25T00:03:37Z")
The first movie sequel to use a number in its title was _Quatermass 2_ (UK, 1957), released in the U.S. as _Enemy From Space_. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/23 "2007-09-25T12:00:09Z")
> [@](#): > > The first movie sequel to use a number in its title was Quatermass 2 (UK, 1957), released in the U.S. as Enemy From Space. Whoa! Vuja de! ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/24 "2007-09-25T12:18:38Z")
[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin] The Madness of George III [/QUOTE] And it’s sequel: The Madness of George III II. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/25 "2007-09-25T12:24:46Z")
Let’s not forget The Naked Gun 2½: The Smell of Fear (which according to IMDB was just “The Naked Gun 2½” in Canada), and Naked Gun 33[sup]1[/sup]/[sub]3[/sub]: The Final Insult. (No “The” on the latter, for some reason.) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/26 "2007-09-25T12:29:38Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] I remember the first one being called Episode IV. I also remember it being said that Lucas planned 9 total episodes, not 6. [/QUOTE] I remember this being said too, but last time I mentioned it, everybody told me I was just imagining it. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/27 "2007-09-25T12:31:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Contrapuntal > I remember the first one being called Episode IV. I also remember it being said that Lucas planned 9 total episodes, not 6. > I remember this being said too, but last time I mentioned it, everybody told me I was just imagining it. Well, you were. I was there -=- Star Wars didn’t have that “A New Hope” subtitle until years later. But it is true that Lucas said he wanted to do a series of nine films – he said that when he was doing the very first sequel. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/28 "2007-09-25T12:31:57Z")
Oh and sequels should definitely not be named using some sort of cutesy punnery - _Look Who’s Talking Too_, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/29 "2007-09-25T12:33:45Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] Well, you were. I was there -=- Star Wars didn’t have that “A New Hope” subtitle until years later. But it is true that Lucas said he wanted to do a series of nine films – he said that when he was doing the very first sequel. [/QUOTE] I meant the nine films thing - I’ve accepted that my memory of the first film being called ‘Episode IV’ is a false one. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/30 "2007-09-25T13:58:54Z")
_Citizen Kane II: Rosebud’s Revenge_ ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/31 "2007-09-25T14:04:33Z")
I think that Roger Ebert pointed out the silliness of a film sequel titled The NeverEnding Story II: The Next Chapter." And next month, Elizabeth: The Golden Age is to be released as a sequel to Elizabeth, the 1998 film starring Cate Blanchett. I just wish the new movie were called Elizabeth II. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/32 "2007-09-25T14:09:55Z")
What about Apollo 13? Shouldn’t they have released the first twelve movies first? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/33 "2007-09-25T14:13:26Z")
A similar thread was done a few months ago: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=411040&highlight=sequel](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=411040&highlight=sequel) ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/34 "2007-09-25T14:20:37Z")
I’m still waiting for the release of **Malcolm Y**. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/35 "2007-09-25T14:29:55Z")
That would be **Malcolm XII** actually. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/36 "2007-09-25T14:31:02Z")
[QUOTE=Chez Guevara] That would be **Malcolm XII** actually. [/QUOTE] Did they make a **Malcolm XI** that I didn’t see? I followed the franchise up to that point, but I thought they stopped before that. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/37 "2007-09-25T14:50:03Z")
I wasn’t expecting an expert on the **Malcolm** franchise. OK, I’m trying to find out what happened to **Malcolm XI** but there doesn’t seem to be much information out there. I’ll report back when I come across a reliable and authoritative cite. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/38 "2007-09-25T14:59:05Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Isn’t it usual, when the sequel name is the same as the first but with a number after it, it has a subtitle? Like the Die Hards. There’s Die Hard (it isn’t Die Hard I, either. Just Die Hard) and then Die Hard II: Die Harder. And then Die yet again but this time with a Vengeance. [/QUOTE] Die Hard II’s actual title is just Die Hard 2. The “Die Harder” thing was actually just the movie’s tagline. But it always gets slapped on the video/DVD case so close to the title that people assume it’s part of the title. The same with Evil Dead II. The box shows “Evil Dead 2” and then the “Dead By Dawn” tagline. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/39 "2007-09-25T15:39:36Z")
Would _Independence Day_ count, since the marketing campaign shortened it to _ID4_? ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324/40 "2007-09-25T15:46:28Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] Well, you were. I was there -=- Star Wars didn’t have that “A New Hope” subtitle until years later. [/QUOTE] It almost amazed me when I bought the Star Wars DVD last weekend that when I watched the original version of the film that there was no Episode IV “A New Hope” on top of the crawl. When Lucas meant the original version, he apparently meant it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naming-movie-sequels/420324.md?page=3)