# Nashville (new ABC show) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 11, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387 "2012-10-11T03:20:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/1 "2012-10-11T03:20:47Z")
This has gotten a lot of buzz, so I checked out the season premiere tonight – pretty good. I am not at all a country music fan, but I like good music, and that song the kids sang at the end is pretty damn good. And I like a nice complex soap, which it looks like this is. And a hell of a cast – Connie Britton, Powers Booth, a bunch of other people. Of the new shows, this is the one that seems most likely to keep me engaged for a full season. (I keep defending _Elementary_, but I certainly see the problems with it.) Did anyone else see it? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/2 "2012-10-11T03:37:04Z")
I caught the last 15 minutes and liked it. It’s got some good people – Mrs. Coach, Cy Tolliver, Bunny Colvin. I didn’t catch all the relationships though. Who’s the candidate Connie appeared on stage with at the end? Husband? Son? Brother? I was :dubious: at the waitress who said she’d never sung into a mike before. No way that song wasn’t well rehearsed, and it would have added some authenticity if they’d admitted it, or if she’d messed up, at least a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/3 "2012-10-11T03:38:56Z")
I liked it. It’s fairly soapy, and Hayden Panettierre’s character is a little over-the-top bitchy, but the acting is all great and the music is perfect (as you’d expect with T-Bone Burnett running things). Great to see Del McCoury and the boys get a little face time. Del has the best smile in the music business. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/4 "2012-10-11T03:50:27Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I didn’t catch all the relationships though. Who’s the candidate Connie appeared on stage with at the end? Husband? Son? Brother? Husband, who’s not the man she truly loves (who is, apparently, the father of her younger daughter, and who just got seduced by the young rival star) – said husband having been manipulated by Connie’s crazy rich and super evil father. Connie had been planning to support the husband’s rival, a black guy who’s apparently an old friend of both hers and her husband’s. They sure packed a lot into one show… ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/5 "2012-10-11T04:27:34Z")
I hadn’t planned on watching it but it came on after _Modern Family_ and I was doing homeowrk so just didn’t bother to change the channel, What a pleasant surprise! I didn’t pay quite enough atention to absorb all the characters / relationships. Is it just me or do all the men(except Powers Booth) look the same? I had a pretty strong dislike for Connie Britton on _American Horror Story_ and I can’t say I like her any better now, yet she plays the role perfectly. So maybe I \*do \*like her (?)Ditto Hayden Panettiere. Also thought the song the girl at the end sang was great. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/6 "2012-10-11T04:33:51Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Husband, who’s not the man she truly loves (who is, apparently, the father of her younger daughter, and who just got seduced by the young rival star) – said husband having been manipulated by Connie’s crazy rich and super evil father. Connie had been planning to support the husband’s rival, a black guy who’s apparently an old friend of both hers and her husband’s. > > They sure packed a lot into one show… Who was seduced? The father or the younger daughter? Now I’m really sorry I missed it. Maybe it’ll be repeated. ---
**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/7 "2012-10-11T04:35:46Z")
It’s even more soap opera-y than I expected. I’m not sure yet if I’ll stick with it just because there’s already so much to keep straight. I probably will, as much for the music as anything else. Ready to read the Rayna/Deacon fan fiction. Will the sister turn out to be a bad guy or a good guy? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/8 "2012-10-11T04:36:59Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Who was seduced? The father or the younger daughter? > > Now I’m really sorry I missed it. Maybe it’ll be repeated. The father, who’s Connie’s true love/leader of her band/not her husband. Hayden is after him both personally and professionally (though it’s already clear she doesn’t actually separate the two – she’ll sleep with anyone who will help her get ahead). ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/9 "2012-10-11T04:39:36Z")
I had doubts about this show, but I’d watch Connie Britton read the phone book. I was pleasantly surprised. None of the characters were one-dimensional, save for Rayna’s father. I’ll be back. The song at the end is by The Civil Wars, and was definitely a highlight. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/10 "2012-10-11T04:57:21Z")
> [@gwendee](#): > > Will the sister turn out to be a bad guy or a good guy? Ooh, good question! ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/11 "2012-10-11T13:35:43Z")
I tuned in mainly for the character of Nashville, since I’ve been living here for 12 years now. Nice to see a bunch of familiar landmarks although I have to wonder who the owner of the Bluebird Cafe slept with to get such a big plug. I thought it was good - it reminded me a lot of _Dallas_ with music instead of oil. And like everyone else is saying, I loved that song at the end. I kept expecting a little message at the end of the show reminding us to download the music from iTunes or something. My only complaints: 1) I’m not sure who that light-haired guy was - the one who was in the recording studio with Hayden and then she was in his bed when Connie went to his apartment. Who is he exactly? 2) Having Connie’s ex-lover/bandleader guy give in to Hayden’s seduction so quickly makes him less sympathetic, when it seemed like they were setting him up to be a Good Guy 3) Connie’s rich evil Dad seems pretty cartoonish. Hayden did too, but at least she’s got that thing with her mother that humanizes her a little bit. I don’t keep up with very many shows but I’ll probably keep watching this one. ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/12 "2012-10-11T13:47:21Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Great to see Del McCoury and the boys get a little face time. Del has the best smile in the music business. That was a nice little cameo, plus they announced his name from the Opry stage. I wonder how many viewers recognized him or his name? One can only hope that a future episode features him in performance. ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/13 "2012-10-11T14:24:23Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I tuned in mainly for the character of Nashville, since I’ve been living here for 12 years now. Nice to see a bunch of familiar landmarks although I have to wonder who the owner of the Bluebird Cafe slept with to get such a big plug. From what I understand the Bluebird Cafe doesn’t need a plug - it’s been the place for Nashville’s up and coming singer-songwriters for many years. There was a movie called _The Thing Called Love_ made in the early 90s (it was River Phoenix’s last-ish movie) about young songwriters trying to make it big in Nashville, and most of it took place at the Bluebird. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/14 "2012-10-11T14:40:39Z")
That’s certainly true, I just didn’t know how well-known the Bluebird was outside Nashville (unlike, say, the Grand Ole Opry). But like I said, I like seeing them using real Nashville locations like the Capital Building and the pedestrian bridge. It’s really a nice little city. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/15 "2012-10-11T14:59:21Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > I liked it. It’s fairly soapy, and Hayden Panettierre’s character is a little over-the-top bitchy, but the acting is all great and the music is perfect (as you’d expect with T-Bone Burnett running things). > > Great to see Del McCoury and the boys get a little face time. Del has the best smile in the music business. Yep, given the pedigree of the music, I have it DVR’d. Don’t know if I can handle the soapiness, but it would be fun to see a show with some reasonably-accurate music and insider/backstage looks at the music biz… ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/16 "2012-10-11T15:14:09Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > 1. Having Connie’s ex-lover/bandleader guy give in to Hayden’s seduction so quickly makes him less sympathetic, when it seemed like they were setting him up to be a Good Guy This is American network (Disney-owned ABC, no less) television so morally ambiguous characters are a no-no as this might confuse the lowest common denominator viewer demographic. But wouldn’t it be refreshing if that weren’t the case? Too bad the Powers Booth character doesn’t have a moustache to twirl while he’s tying his victims to the railroad track. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/17 "2012-10-11T15:38:58Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > My only complaints: 1) I’m not sure who that light-haired guy was - the one who was in the recording studio with Hayden and then she was in his bed when Connie went to his apartment. Who is he exactly? Randy Roberts; a producer, apparently with a history producing Rayna’s (Connie Britton) records. Earlier, after the meeting with the record company execs, he mentioned he’d brought three songs to Rayna that she rejected, presumably because they were too commercial. She went there that night to ask him if she could record those songs as bonus singles to try to help her sales, but they’d already been recorded (by Juliette? Wasn’t clear, but probably at least one of 'em; there were at least two recording sessions with her). I watched for Connie Britton; I’ve liked her ever since her stint on _The West Wing_, though I just realized outside of that, _American Horror Story_, and the movie _Friday Night Lights_, I really haven’t seen her in much of anything (didn’t catch the _Friday Night Lights_ series). There really was a _lot_ of set-up in that episode, but it didn’t feel rushed, and oddly enough, didn’t need a whole lot of narrative exposition. Sure, it’s dealing with some standard tropes, but I thought it was written very well. I’m hoping it doesn’t get _too_ soapy. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/18 "2012-10-11T15:47:48Z")
I pretty much loathe country music, but did read a review that said I would still like this show anyway. I have it on DVR and will try to see it tonight or tomorrow - glad to hear it has started off promising. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/19 "2012-10-11T15:58:06Z")
I hate country music, but I really liked this show. I also thought the men all looked alike and I couldn’t keep them straight, but I expect that will resolve itself as I get to know the characters. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387/20 "2012-10-11T16:38:23Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > Randy Roberts; a producer, apparently with a history producing Rayna’s (Connie Britton) records. Was he the one who kissed Juliette when she was crying in the bathroom? And was he the one who showed up in the rain when Juliette was seducing the guitarist? Agree that a lot of these good ol’ boys look a lot alike – but also agree that we’ll start sorting out who’s who (and what the character names are) soon enough. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nashville-new-abc-show/637387.md?page=2)