# Natalie Holloway alive? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 30, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706 "2015-12-30T06:18:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![botsgotme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@botsgotme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/botsgotme)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/1 "2015-12-30T06:18:44Z")
Sorry, no cite…but a co-worker told me that she read something about this. It goes as follows: Natalie wound up in Columbia, and started a new life, married to a columbian guy. She now has a child, and plans on staying in Columbia. As to why she never contacted her family, who knows? This would explain why: -no trace of her was ever found in Aruba -when Joran Vander Sloat contacted her mother (he offered to tell where Natalie’s body was), the place he indicated came up empty Has anyone heard of this, or is this a typical “National Inquirer” type story? ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/2 "2015-12-30T07:23:53Z")
> [@botsgotme](#): > > . . . a co-worker told me that she read something . . . who knows? This pretty much sums it up. And there’s no such place as “Columbia.” ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/3 "2015-12-30T07:27:24Z")
That makes… perfect sense. However, she simultaneously exists in Columbia and yet doesn’t in our reality thanks to all the Tears in Columbia. Arrest the Lutece siblings immediately! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/4 "2015-12-30T07:31:16Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > This pretty much sums it up. > > And there’s no such place as “Columbia.” Of course not. It burned up on reentry in 2003. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/5 "2015-12-30T09:53:49Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > This pretty much sums it up. > > And there’s no such place as “Columbia.” [There is, actually. (I was born there.)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia,_Pennsylvania) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/6 "2015-12-30T10:18:02Z")
Its in the Smithsonian in Washington D.C ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/7 "2015-12-30T11:17:53Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > [There is, actually. (I was born there.)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia,_Pennsylvania) And, in Missouri. As well as a whole District of it around the nation’s capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/8 "2015-12-30T11:52:34Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > That makes… perfect sense. However, she simultaneously exists in Columbia and yet doesn’t in our reality thanks to all the Tears in Columbia. Arrest the Lutece siblings immediately! Schrodingers- Natalie? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/9 "2015-12-30T17:49:22Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > This pretty much sums it up. > > And there’s no such place as “Columbia.” It’s all part of her deep cover. She changed her name from Natalee to Natalie, then changed the country name from Colombia to Columbia. No way anyone finds her now. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/10 "2015-12-30T17:51:42Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Of course not. It burned up on reentry in 2003. Man, you went to the dark place… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/11 "2015-12-30T19:11:56Z")
Steve Harvey tried to reveal the truth but They got to him. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natalie-holloway-alive/741706/12 "2015-12-30T19:29:17Z")
There was a recent incident of a woman who had disappeared and was believed to have been murdered being found. But it wasn’t Natalee Holloway. A 24 year old German woman, Petra Pazsitka, disappeared in 1984. A year later, a man who had been convicted of another murder confessed that he had also killed Pazsitka. But three months ago, Pazsitka was found. She is alive and has been living under the name Schneider. She has not stated why she chose to disappear. So perhaps the OP’s friend heard some version of this story in which the identity of the woman who had been found was mistakenly changed.