# National Anthem at the Home Run Derby **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 16, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298 "2024-07-16T02:58:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/41 "2024-07-16T17:20:41Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Yeah. The commentator said that the singer had been Grammy-_nominated_. I noticed that he didn’t say that she was a Grammy _winner_. > > And after hearing her version of the anthem, I find it hard to believe she could even be nominated for a Grammy. She was that bad. There are better singers at dive bar karaoke. I feel like it’s really easy to get a Grammy nom. I just checked and last year there were _94_ categories, most of whcih are directed towards the artists (as opposed to all the various technical awards like the Oscars have). Including a “Best New Artist” award with 8 nominees. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/42 "2024-07-16T17:27:50Z")
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/43 "2024-07-16T17:28:24Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Holy cow, was she drunk? Possibly it was just nerves but my Spidey Sense was telling me there was something else going on besides bad singing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/44 "2024-07-16T17:29:04Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > -Humans make a country out of a melting pot. > -Humans create an artistic work to celebrate that country. > -Humans decide before they can watch certain games they have to hear a complete stranger’s rendition of that work. > -The performance of this song affects everything even days later. > > For the above reasons I must insist we journey along to the next fruitful planet. **These lifeforms have nothing to offer us.** - You’re forgetting Funyuns. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/45 "2024-07-16T17:49:46Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > > > Holy cow, was she drunk? > > Possibly it was just nerves but my Spidey Sense was telling me there was something else going on besides bad singing. Well TMZ is reporting she was drunk and is checking into rehab. High five Happy? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/46 "2024-07-16T17:53:18Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Why are sporting events the exception? Performative patriotism. It’s been the norm at U.S. sporting events since the 1940s, and any league or team which decided to _not_ do it now would be criticized as “anti-patriotic,” and as “hating America.” Discontinuing it wouldn’t be worth the PR nightmare it would create, and so, we’re stuck with it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/47 "2024-07-16T17:57:25Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Well TMZ is reporting she was drunk and is checking into rehab. High five Happy? I posted her statement above. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/48 "2024-07-16T18:12:09Z")
Didn’t see that. I trust TMZ to check if a social media post is verified. They may be slimy but they check their sources. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/49 "2024-07-16T18:35:46Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > It’s also really hard to sing with the echo delay over the stadium’s PA system. Alcohol (or whatever) aside, the stadium delay is for real. Back in my college band days, I remember (with extreme pity) a young teenage girl chosen to sign the national anthem while we were standing at attention on the field (we would play if there was no singer that week). Due in part to listening for the delay, it took her nearly 3 minutes to finish when it “only” takes 2 minutes for professionals who are really milking it. Also, she changed pitch at least 10 times (by the time I stopped counting). We all felt incredibly sorry for her and made a note to warn future performers about the delay ahead of time. I can only imagine how much worse that would be in an altered state of mind. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/50 "2024-07-16T18:35:59Z")
She just reminded me of someone who got on the karaoke stage after seven Long Island iced teas and thought she was killing it. Her facial contortions, her ridiculous vocal gymnastics, her obliviousness. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/51 "2024-07-16T18:43:23Z")
Wouldn’t someone get a dress rehearsal/sound check to get a feel for things? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/52 "2024-07-16T18:51:19Z")
Maybe, maybe not. For the Super Bowl, yes, they do - but sometimes several hours before or even the day before. For regular season MLB games? I doubt it but it’s possible. I wouldn’t be shocked they didn’t get one for the Home Run Derby. I wouldn’t really be all that surprised if they didn’t get much of one for the World Series, either, though I suspect they do, even if several hours early before they let the crowds in. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/53 "2024-07-16T18:51:50Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > She just reminded me of someone who got on the karaoke stage after seven Long Island iced teas and thought she was killing it. **Her facial contortions, her ridiculous vocal gymnastics, her obliviousness.** - There are different definitions of “killing it”. She killed it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/54 "2024-07-16T20:00:37Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > _Just sing the damn song, people._ I can’t bring myself to listen to this, but she must have been pretty bad if she out-stunk Roseanne Barr’s rendition. People always seem to want to add all sorts of embellishments to the anthem. As a wise person once said: “It’s the national anthem. It’s not a blues tune!” ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/55 "2024-07-16T20:05:31Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Wouldn’t someone get a dress rehearsal/sound check to get a feel for things? The story as I understand it right now is that the dress rehersal went well enough that her engineer felt comfortable picking a key for Autotune and letting it do the heavy lifting. And now Ingrid is saying that [she was very drunk for the actual performance](https://variety.com/2024/music/news/ingrid-andress-drunk-rehab-national-anthem-home-run-derby-1236073939/), so whatever prep happened went by the wayside. She’s checked into rehab now and I certainly wish her well. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/56 "2024-07-16T22:14:36Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > When was the last time someone who “just [sang] the damn song” went viral, though? Probably long enough ago that the crowd actually waited until the anthem was over to start clapping and cheering. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/57 "2024-07-16T22:30:28Z")
Anthem aside, what is the style of singing that she does called? Is there a name for it? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/58 "2024-07-16T22:55:50Z")
Are you referring to the trilling up and down? If so that technique is called “Melisma.” Which I might have spelled incorrectly. I’m going to check. ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/59 "2024-07-16T23:03:36Z")
I’ve always heard it just generically called indie vocals or the like, especially in female voices. But apparently–I just ran across it today, actually–a term was coined for it several years ago: > **[A Brief History of 'Cursive Singing', From Amy Winehouse to TikTok](https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkyqkv/cursive-singing-tiktok-trend-explained)** > > Characterised by stretching vowel sounds way beyond what is necessary, the last decade has given us a bounty of "cursive singers", AKA vocalists doing the most. No idea if the term is in wide use–like I say, I’d never heard it before. Melisma–stretching out syllables into florid runs–is certainly part of it, but that’s been around for a very long time; cursive singing (or whatever) seems also to have a lot to do with a characteristic vocal tone and pronunciation. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298/60 "2024-07-16T23:04:25Z")
Ha. I need to correct what I claimed here. Melisma is when extra notes are written in the music by the composer. When it’s added by the singer it is ornamentation. Ilearned something new. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-anthem-at-the-home-run-derby/1004298.md?page=4)