# "National Opt-Out Day" -- Aw, Fuck!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978 "2010-11-17T15:05:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/121 "2010-11-24T06:40:19Z")

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Maybe it would be a good day to make about 10,000 small stamped out metal plates in the size/shape of a variety of small handgun models just so EVERYONE who goes through sets off every alarm and or detector array.

Then hand them out in the parking lots

Penis ensues.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/122 "2010-11-24T06:43:45Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> In his [column](http://www.salon.com/technology/ask_the_pilot/2010/11/22/tsa_screening_of_pilots/index.html) yesterday, he pointed out that while pilots and flight attendants need to go through the security checkpoints, the cabin cleaners, baggage handlers and caterers do not.

So the pilots, many of whom are ex millitary and are probably so squeaky clean they could get security clearances higher than God are not trustworthy, but the low paid minimally skilled flunkies just stroll on through?

There isnt enough :smack: in the world for that.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/123 "2010-11-24T09:22:12Z")

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> [@drachillix](#):
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> So the pilots, many of whom are ex millitary and are probably so squeaky clean they could get security clearances higher than God are not trustworthy, but the low paid minimally skilled flunkies just stroll on through?
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> There isnt enough :smack: in the world for that.

sweet jumping jebus _I_ have a security clearance … and have held various ones since I was 18. Unless you want to take into account that I was an army brat, and used to live in base housing as well … I think I have been checked out by the government more than enough to not worry about me.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/124 "2010-11-24T14:18:28Z")

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> [@drachillix](#):
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> So the pilots, many of whom are ex millitary and are probably so squeaky clean they could get security clearances higher than God are not trustworthy, but the low paid minimally skilled flunkies just stroll on through?
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> There isnt enough :smack: in the world for that.

Not only that, but recall that as we’re all forced to walk barefoot through the filth and the TSA throws away the nail clippers of [soldiers returning from Afghanistan who aren’t flying commercial and are all _carrying weapons_](http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/18/another-tsa-outrage/) and questions the contents of your baby’s sippy cup, [1 in 3 pieces of cargo on domestic flights, including cargo on passenger flights, is never screened](http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Increases-Air-Cargo-Screening-after-Foiled-Plot-to-Mail-Bombs-Uncovered---106986128.html).

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/125 "2010-11-24T14:20:54Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> [This Burger King placemat](http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/burger_king_veg_city_airport) looks more and more prophetic all the time.

Damn. That’s creepy.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/126 "2010-11-24T15:20:16Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Not only that, but recall that as we’re all forced to walk barefoot through the filth

Ahh, but the creative minds of the world have a [solution](http://tinyurl.com/38uxwdd) to that problem.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/127 "2010-11-24T16:13:27Z")

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So what is happening? Mass chaos? Operations as usual?

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**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/128 "2010-11-24T16:16:50Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> So what is happening? Mass chaos? Operations as usual?

Operations as usual, from what I’ve witnessed locally and heard from co-workers around the country.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/129 "2010-11-24T19:56:18Z")

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What I’m hearing reported is a lot fewer people flying than expected.

Enjoy the lack of money, airlines.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/130 "2010-11-24T20:01:28Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Enjoy the lack of money, airlines.

I’ve been wondering about this. Two times in the past two years I have driven 8 hours rather than fly 1 1/2 just because of airport crap (security, baggage, etc). When I get to my destination I don’t have to pick up a rental. I’m liking it.

For vacationing in the Caribbean, I’ll still have to fly. But I have cut my flying from 3 times a year down to one. Is this common?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/131 "2010-11-24T20:05:59Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> What I’m hearing reported is a lot fewer people flying than expected.
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> Enjoy the lack of money, airlines.

The news articles I’ve found have simply been reporting that security lines have gone pretty smoothly, more so than most people expected. Whether that’s because of a lack of people or the security procedure has been made more efficient than normal is not apparent from the articles.

Denver International is expecting a record number of travelers this weekend, for what that’s worth.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/132 "2010-11-24T21:54:37Z")

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Right. I was listening to the local newsradio who had a reporter there, and he was repeatedly stating, ‘this is unusually light traffic’. And considering he was wandering around JFK, which is one of the busier in the nation… I think numbers might be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/133 "2010-11-24T21:58:23Z")

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Well, I’m about to see first-hand. Wish me luck.

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**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/134 "2010-11-24T23:42:06Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> What I’m hearing reported is a lot fewer people flying than expected.
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> Enjoy the lack of money, airlines.

Interesting how you can automatically attribute this to be TSA-related, rather than having anything at all to do with economic conditions, airline capacity, or any other reason. Not like most travelers had already purchased airline tickets for holiday travel well before this brouhaha, or anything.

As another poster pointed out, Denver is expecting record numbers. They’re not alone.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-opt-out-day-aw-fuck/560978/135 "2010-11-25T01:22:34Z")

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There was an article about how flights went down six percent when the TSA started bothering people.  
[http://nationaljournal.com/is-tsa-pat-down-hysteria-pushing-travelers-to-more-dangerous-roads--20101122](http://nationaljournal.com/is-tsa-pat-down-hysteria-pushing-travelers-to-more-dangerous-roads--20101122)

I’m not blaming _this_ storm for anything, just the general unpleasantness of flying these days. We’ll see what the numbers look like after the weekend.

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