# native american facial hair

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 19, 1999, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095 "1999-07-19T04:41:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Arkcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Arkcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arkcon)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/21 "2012-08-23T11:03:41Z")

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Wow. I guess back in 1999, random personal WAGs were common on the SDMB. I really missed out … I was probably reading Snopes back then.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/22 "2012-08-23T11:27:19Z")

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Is this a record for a necropost?

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/23 "2012-08-23T12:18:30Z")

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[QUOTE=;50481]  
I’m only 1/16 Cherokee and didn’t start shaving until I was 22 and all I could muster was a thin moustache.(I wanted a goatee badly) Now I shave my upper lip about every other day, never my chin or sideburns.  
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I’m essentially the same as you (and don’t have chest hair, either) and I don’t have the slightest trace of Amerindian ancestry, being French and all.

So, I’m unconvinced your 1/16 of Cherokee blood has anything to do with your facial hair. At the very least it’s not a compelling argument. Some white people too have almost no facial hair.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/24 "2012-08-23T12:22:29Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> I’m essentially the same as you (and don’t have chest hair, either) and I don’t have the slightest trace of Amerindian ancestry, being French and all.
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> So, I’m unconvinced your 1/16 of Cherokee blood has anything to do with your facial hair. At the very least it’s not a compelling argument. Some white people too have almost no facial hair.

That person posted in 1999.

I wonder if he’s up to shaving his sideburns yet…😛

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/25 "2012-08-23T13:36:56Z")

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It’s amazing that **Mangeorge** has been using the same irritating signature for 13 years!

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/26 "2012-08-23T13:49:33Z")

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> [@ncheyenne](#):
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> I am full blood native american and I cannot grow a mustache or beard, maybe few scraggly chin hairs.

I’m guessing you’re full Cheyenne?

Don’t the Cheyenne let anyone in the tribe regardless of race (does Cheyenne just mean ‘the people’ in the Cheyenne language? Or is that an urban legend?)? Do you know your genealogy well enough to know you don’t have European blood?

Because if you’re sure, you’re the best data point in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/27 "2012-08-23T16:37:39Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> It’s amazing that **Mangeorge** has been using the same irritating signature for 13 years!

I don’t know if you’re serious or not, but for those who don’t know, all of your old posts will show your current signature, no matter when you change it. The old post just has a “show signature” thingy attached, and the software pulls up whatever the current signature is and shows that.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/28 "2012-08-23T17:08:32Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I don’t know if you’re serious or not, but for those who don’t know, all of your old posts will show your current signature, no matter when you change it. The old post just has a “show signature” thingy attached, and the software pulls up whatever the current signature is and shows that.

That’s interesting (I didn’t know that), but if you notice, his post is credited to “guest,” so I doubt that this is the case in this instance.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/29 "2012-08-23T17:14:44Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I don’t know if you’re serious or not, but for those who don’t know, all of your old posts will show your current signature, no matter when you change it.

I didn’t think they meant a literal sig line - I thought they were just snarking about his “peace, mangeorge” closure to every post.

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**Author:** ![vladIII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/35a633/32.png) [@vladIII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vladIII)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/30 "2013-09-17T21:18:03Z")

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[QUOTE=;50479]  
I could’ve sworn that my fourth-grade teacher told us that Native Americans (Indians, then) cannot grow facial hair. She pointed out that all the photos of the chiefs from the 1800s and descriptions from earlier than that show men without a trace of even stubble. Nowadays, you see NAs with mustasches, but this is a result of 150 years of cross-breeding, mostly with Mexicans, she claimed. I would’ve tossed it off, but it DOES seem like those old guys, Sitting Bull, Roman Nose, Gerinimo, and the like didn’t have any beards, at least not in any photo I’ve seen. Is it true? Can “full-blooded” Native American men grow beards?  
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interesting since your teacher should have realized that most if not all mexicans are indian ! aztec ,olmec, Yaqui , and mexico is part of north america making them …native american !

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/31 "2013-09-17T21:21:53Z")

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Zombie Geronimo!

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/32 "2013-09-17T21:23:13Z")

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> [@vladIII](#):
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> interesting since your teacher should have realized that most if not all mexicans are indian ! aztec ,olmec, Yaqui , and mexico is part of north america making them …native american !

Welcome to the SDMB, **vladIII**!

Just so you realize, you’re replying to a question that was asked 14 years ago – so long ago that the board’s software doesn’t even show who asked the question.

Long-dormant discussions (like this one) that get brought back are called “zombie threads” here, and tend to lead to some gentle teasing (see **silenus** ’s post just after mine).

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/33 "2013-09-17T22:45:05Z")

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Oh, so that’s what ‘Guest’ means. I’ve always assumed that those people were killed and their bodies disposed of in the desert.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/34 "2013-09-17T23:05:22Z")

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Holy Cow Batman, this is a super Zombie

My maternal Great Great Grandmothers(2 of them) were Native Americans and I always thought that fact was what kept me rather hairless. I can grow a massive goatee but at 43 still cannot grow a beard. I am slowly getting hairier as I age so possibly I will be a Wookie at age 150 or so.

I really do not know if my heritage is the issue but my dad has had a full beard from age 20 or so.

**Capt**

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-american-facial-hair/2095/35 "2013-09-17T23:26:18Z")

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> [@;50485](#):
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> Where in the evolutionary model does a no facial hair, no chest hair, non-balding human fit?

I dunno, but this blended northern european who meets those criteria would be interested to know.

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