Where did I insult anyone?
I was careful to distinguish between gayness in general, and male chauvinist situations where gayness happens to be included. When you go, “sorry for being gay,” you imply I was attacking you for it, which I wasn’t at all. I can understand if you feel put-upon for being gay, and react with bitterness.
Do you really think most people here understand what transgender is? It would be very reassuring to me if awareness had been raised that far. I’m not sure it is.
Where did I generalize about American Indians? I used the phrase “some American Indian societies” and only talked about the ones where the phenomenon occurs. I don’t know what else I should have done to make it clear that I wasn’t generalizing. If you can show me where anyone has generalized about all American Indians please point it out, and criticize them for it. But if you get on my case about it, maybe you didn’t read my post all the way through, maybe you skimmed it and reacted too quickly, I don’t know.
I think my post expressed respect for gays in general, and pointing out that gayness can be co-opted by manipulators is not an attack. Anything is potential for exploitation by the unscrupulous. My point was that institutionalized misogyny is a bad thing. If homosexuality is used to reinforce it, that’s a misuse of homosexuality for a purpose that doesn’t belong to it. I’m not attacking you in any way. My concern is for women’s rights and I’m going to criticize the attitudes that diminish women’s rights. I didn’t say that male homosexuality is inherently bad for women. I’m not disputing that homosexuality is also used for population control, I just was talking about something else.
If I said anything wrong, if you can show me exactly where it was wrong, then I can retract what I may have said in error. If I said anything offensive, then point it out specifically and I can apologize. But please don’t get mad at me for something I didn’t say. I definitely understand what it’s like to be in a society where your existence is shunned as fundamentally unacceptable. I live that every single day. That’s why I am for the concept of LGBT unity in principle.
I do feel the need to speak out about the realities of transgender identity and to educate the public and fight ignorance about it. I don’t think I hijacked your thread, because the OP was about berdaches, and this is a subject where transgender is germane. It would not make much sense to me to open a discussion of berdaches and then exclude TG from the discussion. Your acccusation of “hijack” is a bit much. In the five and a half years I’ve been a Doper, ever since I joined in 1999, I’ve often observed that a thread can branch out into related topics that are directly relevant to the OP, without being rejected as “hijacks.”
If you had introduced a topic that had gay relevance only, and I brought up TG, it may or may not be a hijack. But when the OP directly relates to a TG phenomenon, I think it’s reasonable to note that aspect of it. If you wanted to make an OP that says “This is a subject that has both gay and TG relevance, but for the purpose of this thread I want to focus exclusively on the gay aspects of it and leave out the rest,” OK. I didn’t know you had that in mind. I also didn’t know you were gay, it didn’t say that anywhere.
As for the crack about Christians, yeah, I do have a grudge as a poetry lover and as a feminist over the destruction of Sappho’s poetry. The loss to world culture is inestimable. The few fragments of her poetry that survived by being quoted in other works show her to have been one of the greatest poets who ever lived.
I can understand if you’re mad because it sucks to be treated as an outcast for being gay. I know what it’s like to be part of such an outcast group. It wasn’t my intention at all to offend. I did emphasize the difference between gay and TG, not to disparage gays in any way, but to have TG acknowledged as a phenomenon in its own right. I shared my personal feelings about the struggle to establish my identity, because it isn’t as widely understood and too often gets confused with things that it isn’t.
I went back and reread your OP, and it isn’t all that clear exactly what you were getting at. I can agree that it’s wrong to generalize about all American Indians at once. Are you disputing that berdaches existed at all? If some Indian societies had berdaches, we should be able to discuss the fact without implying that all Indian societies are the same. I haven’t seen anyone saying that, though.