# Native English Speakers: One Hundred Five or One Hundred and Five

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [March 1, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806 "2018-03-01T08:41:08Z")
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### Author: ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/1 "2018-03-01T08:41:08Z")

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I’m an American teaching English overseas using British text. I want you opinion on how to pronounce numbers.

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### Author: ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/2 "2018-03-01T08:47:00Z")

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English English: I include the ‘and’, though normally just as a ‘n’ sound rather than a full word unless I’m trying to emphasise the following word, as does most of the country, in my experience.

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### Author: ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/3 "2018-03-01T08:51:23Z")

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aaand…the ANDs are two for two!

Let’s press our advantage while it’s Western Hemisphere Night 😃

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### Author: ![Seren359](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Seren359](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seren359)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/4 "2018-03-01T09:18:40Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> English English: I include the ‘and’, though normally just as a ‘n’ sound rather than a full word unless I’m trying to emphasise the following word, as does most of the country, in my experience.

What he said. 😃

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### Author: ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/5 "2018-03-01T10:15:55Z")

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One oh five.

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### Author: ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/6 "2018-03-01T10:40:42Z")

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A hundred and five.

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### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/7 "2018-03-01T11:00:09Z")

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Think about the difference between

One hundred five pence

and

One hundred and five pence.

The former counts £5 of currency; the latter £1.05.

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### Author: ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/8 "2018-03-01T11:07:38Z")

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I don’t use “and” - I recall a teacher being very firm that the “and” indicated a decimal place.

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### Author: ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/9 "2018-03-01T11:17:44Z")

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I’m from UK and I’d say “one hundred [barely perceptible noise] five”, but putting absolutely **nothing** between the “hundred” and the “five” would be unacceptable and weird. I would obviously write “one hundred and five.”

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### Author: ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/10 "2018-03-01T11:32:50Z")

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US. I usually use “and” (really, “n,” like Filbert), but not always. “One hundred five” sounds grammatical to me as well, but I associate it with official or scientific situations. Like, some technician counting off seconds into a rocket launch.

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### Author: ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/11 "2018-03-01T11:38:31Z")

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I’m English and it’s one hundred and five for me. One hundred five is certainly understandable and acceptable but sounds American.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/12 "2018-03-01T12:17:32Z")

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I say “and” but I don’t write it (on checks, for instance.)

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### Author: ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/13 "2018-03-01T12:46:52Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> I don’t use “and” - I recall a teacher being very firm that the “and” indicated a decimal place.

This. It indicates that a non-integer quantity follows. Imagine the quantity is instead 105.3125; it gets messy if you say “one hundred and five and five thirty-secondths.” Just leave out the first “and”.

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### Author: ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/14 "2018-03-01T12:59:51Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> This. It indicates that a non-integer quantity follows. Imagine the quantity is instead 105.3125; it gets messy if you say “one hundred and five and five thirty-secondths.” Just leave out the first “and”.

Why would you not just say “one hundred and five point three one two five”? Simples.

Or for a simple fraction like 105.5 “one hundred and five, (pause) and a half”

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#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/15 "2018-03-01T13:11:11Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> A hundred and five.

+1

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#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/16 "2018-03-01T13:12:44Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> Why would you not just say “one hundred and five point three one two five”? Simples.
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> Or for a simple fraction like 105.5 “one hundred and five, (pause) and a half”

Or

one oh five point three one two five

one oh five point five

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### Author: ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/17 "2018-03-01T13:33:12Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> I don’t use “and” - I recall a teacher being very firm that the “and” indicated a decimal place.

People keep saying this in threads like this, and it always baffles me. I have never, in my 50 years on this earth, spoken a decimal aloud as “and,” nor have I ever heard anyone else do so, nor has any teacher ever told me to do so.

A decimal is read aloud as “point.”

Yes, I use the word “and” when reading numbers. 105 is read aloud as “One hundred and five.”

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### Author: ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/18 "2018-03-01T13:39:15Z")

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American pronunciation - uh hunderd n five

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### Author: ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/19 "2018-03-01T14:08:16Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> Why would you not just say “one hundred and five point three one two five”?

Why _would_ you? What is the grammatical purpose of uttering “and” after the hundreds?

For that matter, imagine I have a longer number, like 179,432.16. Why are you only putting an “and” after the hundreds? Why not say “one hundred and seventy and nine thousand and four hundred and thirty and two point one six?”

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### Author: ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/20 "2018-03-01T14:10:38Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> Why would you not just say “one hundred and five point three one two five”?

Sorry for muddling my point by presenting the non-integer part as a decimal. Imagine instead that I had written"105-5/16".

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