# Native English Speakers: One Hundred Five or One Hundred and Five **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 1, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806 "2018-03-01T08:41:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/21 "2018-03-01T14:15:17Z")
Either one is okay. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/22 "2018-03-01T14:24:40Z")
I’m from the US and I’m sure I sometimes use AND and sometimes don’t. I feel like it’s more correct to not say AND, though. ---
**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/23 "2018-03-01T14:29:48Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I don’t use “and” - I recall a teacher being very firm that the “and” indicated a decimal place. I’m from the U.S. and my math teacher taught me the same thing. I promptly ignored her after the test where we had to write out numbers and went back to speaking liking a normal person. “And” it is. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/24 "2018-03-01T14:33:36Z")
It’s one hundred five because the decimal point is read as “and”. Example: 105.26 - One hundred five and twenty-six one hundredths. If you used “and”, it would be - one hundred and five and twenty-six one hundredths As we all know, “two ‘ands’ don’t make a right!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/25 "2018-03-01T14:51:50Z")
I don’t know why I have such a strong memory of this, but I distinctly remember being told by my 1st grade teacher (in my American 1st grade class) that we do not use “and” in such situations. I presume she corrected us until we got it right. I don’t have too many memories from 1st grade but weirdly, this is one. I’m sure I say “and” all the time but I would definitely not write it. I of course would not be confused or put off by anyone saying it, or writing it in a casual setting, but I think in formal writing (say, a news article) I would definitely be put off by someone using it. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/26 "2018-03-01T15:17:08Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I don’t use “and” - I recall a teacher being very firm that the “and” indicated a decimal place. This, but also this: > [@MrAtoz](#): > > People keep saying this in threads like this, and it always baffles me. I have never, in my 50 years on this earth, spoken a decimal aloud as “and,” … > A decimal is read aloud as “point.” > [@Jasmine](#): > > It’s one hundred five because the decimal point is read as “and”. > > Example: 105.26 - One hundred five and twenty-six one hundredths. This is the way I would write it on a check, which is the only place I can think of that I would actually write out the words. When speaking, I, like **MrAtoz** , would say the decimal point as “point.” The exception is money: I might say $105.26 as “One hundred five dollars and twenty-six cents.” Saying "“One hundred **and** five dollars and twenty-six cents,” sounds less good, though not out-and-out wrong, to me. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/27 "2018-03-01T15:17:12Z")
One Oh Five ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/28 "2018-03-01T15:24:27Z")
Depends on context. Informally, it’s “A hundred and five”. Written in the long verbose part of an old-fashioned paper check, it’s “One Hundred Five Dollars” (but if there are cents, “One Hundred Five Dollars AND 12/100”). If I’m reading off numbers, it’s likely to be “One Oh five” or “One Hundred Five”. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/29 "2018-03-01T15:26:50Z")
Not American, use both, as well as ‘one oh five’, ‘a buck five’, or ‘one five’, depending on circumstances (euphony, clarity, speed, mood). ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/30 "2018-03-01T15:33:03Z")
I was also taught that the addition of an “AND” when writing out a number properly indicated the addition of a fraction, but the only place this typically comes up is when writing a check. To wit, if I am writing out a check for $105.33, I write out “_ **One hundred - five AND 33/100 dollars** _.” Because of this, I would typically pronounce 105 the same way: “one hundred-five.” (However, I might also say “one oh five.”) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/31 "2018-03-01T15:35:46Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > One Oh Five Yeah, I don’t say one hundred five or one hundred and five. I’d nearly always say one oh five. If you forced me to say one, I guess I’d say “one hundred and five” because “one hundred five” is so alien I’d have to think about what amount it even was trying to convey. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_a\_Platypus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@Not\_a\_Platypus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_a_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/32 "2018-03-01T15:42:02Z")
I’m from the USA and use both, but when I was a kid I was taught that adding “and” is grammatically incorrect. Until reading this thread I don’t think I’ve ever run into anyone that was confused by either use. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/33 "2018-03-01T16:19:55Z")
Question: How would you pronounce the number 105,000? “One hundred five thousand” or “one hundred and five thousand”? And is this different from how you’d pronounce 105? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/34 "2018-03-01T16:26:59Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Question: How would you pronounce the number 105,000? “One hundred five thousand” or “one hundred and five thousand”? And is this different from how you’d pronounce 105? uh hunderd n five touse n ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/35 "2018-03-01T16:30:35Z")
“hunnert’n’five” ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/36 "2018-03-01T16:32:43Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > “hunnert’n’five” I hate it when people are so lazy they don’t put an ‘uh’ in front of that. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/37 "2018-03-01T16:38:50Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > I don’t use “and” - I recall a teacher being very firm that the “and” indicated a decimal place. This. I was I elementary school from 1960 to 1966. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/38 "2018-03-01T16:39:29Z")
Strictly speaking the “and” should not be used and I don’t use it if I’m writing numbers, but just about everybody uses it when they talk, including me. (U.S.) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/39 "2018-03-01T16:41:11Z")
I hate this “and” rule. As a third grade teacher, I’m supposed to be the gatekeeper for it and fingerwag at kids, but I refuse to do so. Instead I teach my students that the “rule” exists, but it’s a convention, not a mathematical thing, and most people ignore it in speaking, and that very rarely they’ll find someone who will judge them for saying the “and,” so they should at least know about the rule. But for students who struggle with math, the “and” is often very useful for understanding place value. I can show them that if you’re adding 500 and 47, you get “five hundred and forty seven.” They can see how the numbers add together. A small thing, but those kids need every small thing they can get. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806/40 "2018-03-01T16:46:01Z")
When using a decimal I do not say “one hundred and five decimal 5” but “one hundred point five”. 105 would be “one hundred and five”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/native-english-speakers-one-hundred-five-or-one-hundred-and-five/809806.md?page=3)