Heh. Escalating threats, of course, though we’ve no shortage of escalating threads, either.
Uh, yeah I can. Lots of stuff that have no consequence are still assholish. Now you’re just a fucking idiot because you don’t understand something as simple as that.
Dear Lord, calm down. All this stress must be worse than a cigarette for the old ticker.
I hope Queen Tonya won’t mind me taking a stab at this, but I’m guessing the internal monologue went roughly thus:
QT (to audience): “Hey, look - they’re talking about something in my field. And look! someone just said they’re pretty sure Expeditions come with ashtrays as standard. Hmm, I could volunteer the information, since I know they don’t. Can’t be anything wrong with that. Some idiot probably won’t come along and nitpick me to death with semantic stupidity until we spontaneously combust, ashtray or no. No, that almost certainly won’t happen; after all, no-one could object to being furnished with a fact germane to the conversation…”
relevant fact posted, world doomed
enter Contrapuntal, exeunt reason, rationality and the ability to remember what the point was
C: “Fie upon you, madam! We asked for no facts here! No fact-requesters, we! Verily, answering a question that has maybe not in so many words been asked but nonetheless is plainly out there to be answered since there is some controversy over the actual answer is the height of rudeness, tantamount in my eyes to extirpating a favoured geranium, or perhaps to mildly taunting a stoat. Leave now from my thread, lest I accuse you of poor punctuation to boot!”
Narrator: And thus was born the Bizarro World Dope, wherein the merry populace avoided providing people with facts, for fear of being accused of weaseling. And all rejoiced, but for the weasels, who formed a labour union in order to win a cigarette break, and consequently got emphysema.
credits, outtakes
a) It is the responsibility of the council to provide public rubbish bins.
b) There is no justification for this.
c) The council should be aware that rubbish will be produced in public areas. The rubbish might be fag butts, dog shit, ice cream wrappers, chip packets etc. It IS the councils responsibility to provide rubbish bins.
I am a smoker and I don’t throw butts out the window. As stinky as it sounds, if I can’t find a bin I will put the butt in my pocket BUT I have NEVER thrown a butt away in a public bin that contained ONLY butts. Bins should be provided from tax payments because people are messy individuals and need places to put the mess. Whatever form the mess takes.
Better in a bin then on the street!
Exactly my thought as well. Contrapuntal’s attack on Tonya’s comment was bizarre and an obvious overreaction by someone how has worked himself up into a hysterical lather.
Ya know Contrapuntal, I agree with you about the assholes that toss butts out the window, but holy shit dude, CALM THE FUCK DOWN! I can almost see the spit fly when I read your posts. You keep up your vigilante reverse butt toss back into windows - really - I appreciate you cleaning up our streets, but just like B. Ekers said, don’t be surprised when you find yourself twirling on the end of a tire iron.
Oh, it’s not Bizarro Dope anymore this morning, yay! 
Dang, you people talk quaint. Do you still call matches “lucifers”?
Why? Are you into promotion of trash diversity? 
Dead Badger has it dead on.
I think Contrapuntal owes you an apology, Queen Tonya. I doubt one is going to come your way, so allow me to apologize that you were treated so rudely. Sorry.
As i saw it, there was some discussion of automobile ashtrays, including a comment from a poster that he expected all Expeditions to have them. You corrected that misconception.
Whether are not ashtrays are standard in cars is a separate issue from whether or not someone is an asshole for throwing a butt out the window, and similarly separate from whatever your personal opinion about littering might be.
I am optimistic that most Dopers comprehend that as well.
Queen Tonya, yet another voice to say thanks for the information which clearly was a useful response to the comment in post 13.
I live next to conservation land that gets crapped upon by butt litterers. I can easily work myself into a raging lather over them, and not having a ashtray standard in a car is in no way going to spare them my wrath. I still think Contrapuntual has gone nuts, and has unfortunately derailed his own thread which could have turned into amusing stories of asshole vs nature schadenfreude.
Just wanted to add that Cranky’s reasonable post was not there when I previewed. That’s the last time I spend the time to look up the correct spelling of schadenfreude!
Bolding mine. Anyone else thinks this works better with the officer chortled or even [the officer guffawed?
And Queen Tonya deserves an apology.
Queen Tonya and milroyj as well, please accept my sincere apologies for my inappropriate responses to your posts. Wiser heads hve convinced me that I was acting like an asshole. I am truly sorry.
Just like to say you can find the same damn thing at Target for like 10 bucks, as opposed to the thirty that website is trying to charge. I used to have one. A water bottle with just an inch or so of water in it does a much better job, anyway.
I put the cigarette out on my tongue, put the butt in my shirt pocket, then throw the shirt out the window. Sometimes with me still in it. Works.
Thanks Contrapuntal. 
Thanks from me as well, Contrapuntal.
Sorry to bring this up now that everybody’s calmed down, but I honestly don’t understand this statement. If I flip a cigarette butt out the window while you’re behind me at a stop light, are you saying you’re going to run out of your car, pick it up off the ground, and throw it in my window? And you’ve done this before? Because I’m pretty sure if I was at a stoplight and the driver behind me got out of their car looking pissed and approached close enough to throw something in my window, I’d either:
a) Roll up my window; or
b) knock the shit out of them by swinging my car door into them.
So your threat sounds like a fantasy to me.
Unless you mean I flick my cigarette out my window (while stopped, with no wind to carry it very far, presumably) and it somehow miraculously flies through your open window and into your reach, and you pull up alongside me and somehow manage to aim it through your passenger window from the driver’s seat and into my car (I can only assume you mean to throw it in my driver’s side window, since that’s the only window I’d have open when flicking out a butt). Which also seems highly improbable.
In short, I think you made this up.
First off, let me say, as a former smoker, I am still really fucking pissed by all of these fuckers that think that just because smoking is harmful it gives them license to take a Nazi attitude towards any kind of smoking.
Really, everybody has their vices, and no matter how much you fight it, a large percentage of people just don’t give a damn about anybody else but themselves and the people and things in their lives. This will never change no matter how much you want it to. You can fight it and scream, but in the end, you are only causing yourself problems, because the guy who throws the cigarette butts out the window sure can’t feel your anger.
I really love how Americans take the liberty of making everything a crusade. Its either consumed to excess or demonized. What about food? We are currently making hamburgers bigger with more shit, while ass sizes continue to grow. I cant’ wait until its time to demonize the fat people who considered me less than human when was a smoker.
But actually, its not me. I don’t really concern myself with people living their lives that aren’t like I think they should. I will be a little happy when people do that.
Lets see what other vices will be pounced on next? What about watching too much television? Hey, i think that’s wrong. All it will take is a consensus and then we can demonize it by proving how it is probably one of the least constructive ways of passing times.
It amazes me though how everyone has themselves convinced that it is only a coincidence that their vices seem to be in line with what they think is okay, and the unacceptable ones are the things they don’t do.
In short. People are human. People are lazy, people are imperfect, and people are inconsiderate. People aren’t going to change, so don’t waste your time getting mad. Now, the OP is funny. A guy trying to litter gets “burned.” but really, I don’t think that’s an appropriate punisment for throwing out a cigarette butt. But anyway its funny that he screwed himself over.
I’ll admit. I’ve smoked, and I’ve thrown numerous butts on the ground in my time. I do a lot of other things that would get me a lecture from a few people. But I realize I’m not perfect, so I don’t demand perfection from anyone else either. I’ll admit. Driving a SUV seems stupid to me, but I don’t really let it bother me much. Only when the size of an SUV is physically preventing me from doing something (like taking up too much parking space) but I don’t let it bother me.
But anyway, its funny how it was an SUV-driving smoker. Its sort of a catchall for knee-jerk reactions.
I wondered how long it would take for one of these types of posts to materialize.
Let’s cut to the chase: when you littered you helped keep the street sweepers in a job, right? So you were really doing a public service, right? I expect that rationale to come up next.
Anyone who flicks burning things out windows deserves my scorn. A lot of us were raised with a strong “no littering” philosophy, and add to that, “no littering of things that are ON FIRE” and you pretty much feel quite strongly that it’s a bad, bad thing. A lot of us live in fire-prone areas and have seen too many devastating fires attributed to a careless cigarrette thrown out the window.
I feel little sympathy for the people who cannot bestir themselves to discard their BURNING LITTER (or litter of any kind) in a proper manner.
Now that you got an apology from Contrapuntal, maybe now you can answer his perfectly reasonable questions you chose to ignore earlier. To recap: