# Navy-Air Force may be cancelled

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 2, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176 "2013-10-02T12:04:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/1 "2013-10-02T12:04:13Z")

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Apparently, upperclassmen at the Air Force Academy count as military personnel and are under travel restrictions due to the shutdown. From [CNN](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1794060-air-force-vs-navy-faces-possible-postponement-due-to-government-shutdown).

It’s uncertain whether the upperclassmen at West Point and Annapolis fall into that category as well. If so, the shutdown could wreak havoc on their schedules also.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/2 "2013-10-02T13:07:51Z")

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It seems to be the case for Army too, since there are reports their game at Boston College on Saturday is in question.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/3 "2013-10-02T13:59:02Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It seems to be the case for Army too, since there are reports their game at Boston College on Saturday is in question.

But as of now it’s still proceeding as scheduled. We’ll know more in a day I suspect.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/4 "2013-10-02T14:25:55Z")

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I find it hard to believe that a football game is an “essential service”.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/5 "2013-10-02T16:24:08Z")

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Never been to America, have yer, mate? 😉

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/6 "2013-10-02T17:24:33Z")

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CNN says that 2 upcoming games with the service academies with Notre Dame are in question and it could cost ND a shot at a bowl game!

Who says a shut-down is **ALL** bad?

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**Author:** ![Prox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Prox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prox)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/7 "2013-10-02T19:14:49Z")

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Wouldn’t it be a forfeit by Navy & Air Force, giving ND wins? I don’t see how it would hurt ND’s chances at getting a bowl game

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/8 "2013-10-02T19:23:02Z")

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> [@Prox](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be a forfeit by Navy & Air Force, giving ND wins? I don’t see how it would hurt ND’s chances at getting a bowl game

Making them forfeits is pushing it, although the NCAA would probably give Notre Dame an exemption if it came down to it.

Besides, the games can be moved: ND-Air Force can be played on Friday 11/15 (that Saturday is a problem because Air Force plays UNLV the following Thursday), and ND-Navy can be played on Saturday 12/6.

Also, is a Notre Dame win over Air Force a given? Remember, the bowl eligibility requirement is “at least as many FBS wins (plus one FCS team that gives out at least 90% of its scholarships, if applicable, although ND plays only FBS teams this season) as total losses”; the six-win requirement no longer applies.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/9 "2013-10-02T20:20:16Z")

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> [@Prox](#):
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> I don’t see how it would hurt ND’s chances at getting a bowl game

Unclear to me as well. I wasn’t listening to that part. I just heard “hurt ND’s bowl chance” and _that_ caught my attention!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-air-force-may-be-cancelled/670176/10 "2013-10-02T20:52:23Z")

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You need 6 wins against FBS teams to qualify for a bowl (unless they softened the rules again lately). This would have been one.
